1800x or 1700X

Which one?

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Good question. I think the 1700X is the more sane option, but I think I'm going to grab the 1800x regardless. Just have to wait and see benches and overclockability.

1700X. Given the dynamic overclocking that XFR provides, I don't see the point of paying an extra $100 for another 200 mhz.

I ordered the 1700 myself
65w should save a bit of money on power, and my current heatsink will be overkill for it which is always a good thing
then again the most strenuous thing I'm going to be doing on my machine is muh gaymes

>500 dollars
none of them

I hear the 1800x is better.

intel i7 when price drops

Depends on how aggressive their binning process is.

since they're just different bin we'll have to wait and see how well the chips overclock. i doubt the difference is worth the extra shekels.

neither. the best ones will be the 6 core. these ones are pointless and overpriced.

I hope OC gains will be linear, I really don't feel like dropping extra $100, but if 1800x clocks absurdly higher than 1700x I'll end up starving for a week

>Implying that software of the future won't be written to make use of 8 cores.

shiggydiggy

>tfw can't afford to wait for 5 because my motherboard is about to shit itself

How about getting a shitty $20 replacement mainboard for your current CPU from Craigslist or whatever your local equivalent is?

>implying an extra $150 for 2 more cores and 2 seconds faster winzip extraction time is worth it

not worth it, considering I could just spend that extra $20 on an 8-core Ryzen CPU instead

>boxxy was like 10 years ago
Fuck I'm old.

Not really interested in the 8 core ones since they won't overclock as high as the ones with less cores.

The 1600x, the 6c/12t is the really interesting one.


If it can get to 4.5 ghz I might get it, else I'll jump on all the lmao's trying to dump their 7700k's right now

This is the best course of action.

Because binning
It's nice to have XFR but it's full potential lies in the 1800x

We'll have to wait and see how aggressively AMD is binning though. Absent additional information, $100 for 200 mhz seems like a lot of dough.

> the 6900k, the $1000 chip I cherry picked, is 10% better than $300 Intel products on the games I cherry picked
> therefore Ryzen is amazing because it's cheaper than $1000
Can you stop pretending that even you believe that?

Yes, make this a meme

I have to give it to AMD though, they did manage to make the AMD shills in here to not see they're talking about a fucking $500 chip, an amount that literally nobody in Sup Forums would consider even for an Intel chip.

The 5's are where the value proposition starts for everyday users, but the 7's are impressive in that they're matching the performance of super-high-end Intel chips that cost 2 to 3 times as much.

1700. All of them are overclockable.
However, you better not jump on a hype train. Ryzen 5 4core may be just the thing.

but seriously, we can't let AMD get the nuclear codes

Obvious choice... 1800 is a higher number than 1700

>boxxy

:^)

>65w should save a bit of money

You're talking >$15/year

If you're that worried, you shouldn't be buying computer parts

The majority of current software doesn't even use four cores, retard. By the time most software uses 8 cores, we'll have 32 core processors.

it gets hot here in the summer, the less heat my pc generates the more money I save on AC
that's not insignificant

> The majority of current software doesn't even use four cores
And I'm really grateful that most software isn't bloated enough to ask for more than 1 thread.
Butt! Video encoders can utilize all the cores, so if you're into it, Ryzen is a good purchase.

1700x. Seems like AMD is having no yield issues this time around meaning they won't be aggressively binning them.

That in mind paying an extra $100 for 200Mhz is dumb. Only a little while longer and we will know just how well they overclock.

Is that really her right now?

yeah

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>twitter.com/catiewayne?lang=en
Why would someone make themselves look as crappy as possible with their haircut?

As a bald person this pisses me off

u mad Baldy McSkinHead

This is the smart choice.

Sometimes it's better to not know what happened to people.

Neither, I plan to stick with Phenom II.

Good goyim.

good question.
im looking at the 1700x because 120€ more for 200mhz is a lot.

But who knows how it's binned. If the 1700(no x) overclocks well that'd be the best option, but it probably wont, or they could sell it as a 1800x.

And I dont like the added element of unstability that overclocking gives. Even good overclocking CPUs can be fine in a stability test for an hour then crash randomly when you're doing something important.

I thought as much was clear from my post

so why not get the 1700 if you don't like overclocking?
what I'm probably doing, unless intel respond with a better deal

misread your post
1700 looks best price/performance
I heard it does overclock well, just not auto

I thought it was common knowledge that Boxxy went full SJW

Disgusting.
I checked out her channel once when she started uploading again and she seemed like a perfectly normal girl.

>literally painting eye bags on your face

Why does boxxy look like a Mexican Now

Yep, and the way I see it is
>I can get the top of the line for just 100 dollars more

I'm getting a 1800x

Hard to say this soon, wait for reviews.
If it's the same story as it was with Bulldozer and 1800X is a way to skip the silicon lottery by guaranteeing the best binned chips it might be worth it. But it depends on how good 1700X then ends up being on average.

Wait for benchmarks~
And then wait for the 1600X~~

faggot

Wait for reviews. That 1800X is pricey

Rude.

If the 1700x can reach 4.2GHz with an NH D15 and a 200 euro motherboard, I'm getting it.

anime website

you're already invested into buying depreciable tech. might as well go all the way

I got an Asus B350-Pure and a 1700x. I'll fiddle with the multiplier a little bit, but I have an H100i so hopefully XFR will take it to 4.0-4.2. I'm looking forward to reviews so I have an idea of what to expect. I know it's a damn sight better than my 8350 though.

Or it'll end up like the 8320 and 8350 - they both slam into a voltage wall at the same point, the more expensive one just has higher clocks out of the box.

Implying I use my pc for one task at a time

>everyone pays the same price for power

she should've just did porn

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we are already seeing high clocked 4 core cpus falling behind slower 6/8 core cpus. In a couple years the difference will be larger especially because CPUs at least those of Intel are not getting much faster regarding single thread performance.
I think for the coming couple years having a fast 6 core will be the sweet spot. Considering it seems these days a cpu can last as long as 5 years getting a 8 core might pay off

Kiketel dropping prices

Yes it is. Running a window AC 24/7 in a room is less than $100 for 3 months.

personally i care more about low power use because it generally means less noise.

You should see the denial of that article over on OCN - the amount of people that crawled out of the woodwork to declare a sandy vagina i5 is all you ever need is astonishing.

Waiting for pricedrop on Baby Lake 7700 non K.
Stay mad faglords.

Anybody know which mobo will be linux friendly yet? I'm sticking with Arch and I refuse to install Winshit on my new rig. I'd rather just mod wine to suit my needs. So far all I know is Linius released a few vega and ryzen driver support with the recent Kernels. After that I'm not sure what to make of it and which mobo to go with. I wanted MSI but I heard Asus might be the goto choice for initial release.

autism is a serious issue

I know it's compatible with all mobos and the kernel deals directly with bios. I'm just concerned about driver issues and bugs.

If you have no idea wtf i'm talking don't comment.

no i just think you're a sperg
people who cause this much of a fuss over refusing to use something come off that way

We're not mad if you want to spend more for a worse performing processor.

Intel never pricedrops.

really?

no no they're not pricedrops, they're "competitively priced sales"

Those are all Microcenter prices. Instore pickup only, they don't ship anywhere, and those prices have been up since those chips launched.

threadly reminder that you MUST buy Ryzen to support competition even if intel after price drop is objectively better because otherwise you are just fucking yourself in the ass by supporting another years of monopoly.

I'm so ryzened I don't which one of my hands to use to masterbait!

I'm getting a 1600x for muh vidya, because it seems the best contender against the 6600k/7600k in terms of price and performance

that's nice but basically every Canadian parts retailer has the Intel chips on sale right now

Please source your claims.

check ncix, tigerdirect, newegg, directcanada, and canadian computers then

>Even good overclocking CPUs can be fine in a stability test for an hour
Nigga, don't you go full 24h when doing an overclock? I got the 3570k to 4.4GHz after lowering it from 4.5GHz. It crashed very late, like 5 or 6 hours after the meme Mersenne prime tests.

If I'm not too fussed about overclocking until quite a bit later would it be a better idea to get the R7 1700 (cooler included) than the R5 1600X which doesn't come with a cooler?

oh and amazon

...

Yeah but this is one of those game-theoretical things, prisoner's dilemma or tragedy of the commons or whatever, where it benefits me personally to buy Intel if everyone else is buying AMD, but if everybody is buying Intel instead of AMD we all suffer. Most likely everyone will be buying Intel in that case.

She's still pretty cute desu

same for me

i dont mind buying intel counterparts for 1600x IF the price will drop by a HYUGE margin.

its so good to have some competition

CA prices are overpriced anyhow, nobody cares.

Fact is that the 7700k is still $340-$350 on every single store except some small retailer like MicroCenter. Then again MC has been running Intel CPU deals for years so this is nothing new.

>CA prices are overpriced anyhow, nobody cares.
which is why the Ryzen release is important as fuck
normally we pay anywhere between $40-100 more, even after the exchange rate. the new Ryzen chips are the USD prices converted to CAD + $5

Does it make sense to jump from a 3770K running at 4.4GHz to a 1800x?

I'll have to change the mobo, and get new ram (ddr3->ddr4) so expenses add up

no
wait for Zen+

This

>1800X (499$) is going against a i7-6900K (1050$)
>551$ savings
>1700X (399$) is going against a i7-6800K (429$)
>30$ savings
I would go for the 1800X

I'm doing it from the non HT version, but I'm looking at an entire new PC. What do you even do if you're asking this? I encode, compile everyday, and sometimes stream. The extra cores will help me greatly and since it looks like it's at least Broadwell-E, a 4GHz 8 core behemoth won't slack on single threaded for emulation or gaymes as well. There's also the thing about GPU passthrough that I could try with Zen and get rid of the dualboot.

I'll probably go with Gigabyte as they have win7 support listed meaning UEFI to bootloader is likely not going to cause any major issues, and the AB350M i'm looking at has Realtek ALC887 and GbE LAN which are both common enough to be supported by literarily every kernel oob. Also based on the online users manual I could do any overclocking via bios if there won't be any kernel/userspace tools for it

Why would you pay $200 more for a CPU that has the same number of cores, the same core frequency adjustments, and the same IPC? It's a no-brainer, the 1700X is the only reasonable choice.
>b-b-but muh overclocks
The 1700X probably clocks 200MHz lower than the 1800X. That means you're paying ~$100 per 100MHz. Fuck that noise.

>The 1600x, the 6c/12t is the really interesting one
Yes, but the 1800X/1700X is binned from higher silicon with better leakage tolerance. The 1600X will probably not overclock as well as a 1700X with two cores disabled at the BIOS.