Sup Forumsuys - I'm piecing together a new build. It's been a few years since I've built a PC.
I've already ordered an ASUS B150 Pro Gaming Aura and my plan was to go with a standard SATA SSD, but upon receipt of the board I realized I could also install an M.2 SSD - something I've never played with at all.
Google is giving me mixed answers, so... should I go with an M.2 or a standard SSD? Will I *really* see a big performance boost with an M.2? And will I have any trouble installing Windows 7 on it? (I fucking despise Windows 10).
...and the speeds look to be nearly identical. Plus, what's the lifespan of a M.2 vs a standard SSD?
Chase Morgan
When you see windows boot in a literal timed 1 second you won't know if you could settle for less then m.3
David Brown
>m.3 what mate?
Noah Gray
They're both very reliable, I can't say I've seen many of both fail, issues are always with the cheapest models
Kevin Davis
m.2. is just the connector and form factor. There are m.2. SATA and m.2. NVME drives. You only get performance boost with the NVME. But the price difference is not worth the performance boost. Just get m.2. SATA (if you want a cute little drive without cables) or a 2.5" SATA SSD. They perform at the same speed though.
Luke Johnson
allow me to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as "M.2" is in fact "M.2+NVMe"
Lucas Hernandez
>he thinks all m.2 drives are nvme.
Jaxson Reed
While you're right, the intel 600p nvme based m.2 is a good deal faster than even stuff like the SATA based 850 EVO m.2. Don't get me wrong. Not by much but still a bit faster.
Brayden Reed
NVME drives have gotten cheaper since I last checked. Last time they were 2x the price.
Nolan Clark
yea it's not so bad now. I mean don't get me wrong, the intel 600p NVME series is still WAY slower than say the Samsung 950/960 series or even Intel's 750 series.
Hudson Ramirez
No I said what he's referring to Learn to read instead of repost images
Juan Anderson
Yeah, if you get an m2 don't fuck around, get a Samsung 950/960 pro 600p is almost SATA-tier apart from seq reads
Thomas Morris
yea. nah. I don't care. I just like shitposting.
Matthew Campbell
Here's my raid 0 of two kingston u400's for scale.
Anthony Rivera
ok but nobody has answered yet... would I have any issues installing Win 7?
Elijah Turner
that m2 on the left is pretty slow, the build i did yesterday with a samsung 960pro was 2400 i think on read.
Bentley Campbell
well that B150 board implies skylake. Which means Windows 10 might be your only option. Not because of the drive, but because of your motherboard's driver limitations. Many if not damned near all skylake builds don't agree at all with windows 7. My own included.
..but what I'm getting at is the actual install of win 7. I remember back in the day when XP couldn't recognize certain sata controllers during the install process, requiring you to download drivers that had to be installed via floppy. It was a pain in the ass. Just wondering if I'd run into the same kind of shit trying to install Win 7 on one of these M.2's.
Parker Martin
There's a high chance yea. When I tried installing Windows 7 I kept getting an error saying missing drivers. My motherboard's USB ports were all controlled by the same USB driver so my keyboard and mouse didn't work during the install process.
If absolutely necessary you may need to slipstream the driver during the install process.
Asher Roberts
I think I'll just by both. I'll set up with the regular SSD and then clone it to the M.2 and see what happens.
Anthony White
>. Plus, what's the lifespan of a M.2 vs a standard SSD?
m.2 is sata, its the form factor and interconnect that differ (sata vs nvme)
Caleb Clark
grab a samsung pro evo 950
speedy as fuck
Luis Ross
I see NVMe and my brain says 'nevermindy'. I'm reminded of scsi being supposed to be pronounced 'sexy' but everyone went with scuzzy instead.
Nicholas Jackson
You need NVMe drivers if you want Windows 7 to detect the drive. I had to do that when I tried out Windows 7 on my 950. Forgot where I got the driver, but I ended up just using Windows 8.1 myself though.
Joshua Thompson
Don't bother with samsung, they cost significantly more but next to no applications take advantage of the faster read/write.
If you need the read right, you would already know
Only reason im looking at nvme drive is because 400-500mb read is about where the bottleneck for nearly every read process is, but nothing short of an nvme will read to that bottleneck at all times.
Will likely move to a samsung drive when the prices come down even more, or possibly just install the samsung drive and use it as a main read write and have a separate os install nvme.
Julian Gray
It's not that the 600p is slow, it's that the Samsung drives are in a class of their own >"software bottleneck" conveniently the upper end of SATA SSDs
Henry Russell
>I'm reminded of scsi being supposed to be pronounced 'sexy'
no way, its always been scuzzi for as long as i can remember and i remember when ide vs scsi was a thing
not calling shit, but is that a true thing? cuz i can kinda see a kind of 'sec-zi' pronunciation
