The good >Eight cores and 16 threads at half the price of Intel >Excellent performance in workstation applications >AM4 is a modern, full-featured platform >While only a small performance boost, XFR is zero-effort and works well
The bad >Gaming performance is weak compared to Intel, particularly in modern titles >Specialised AVX applications will perform better under Intel
The ugly >A higher-clocked quad-core chip like the Intel i7-7700K or 7600K is still the best choice of processor for no-compromise gamers
>Powered by ryzen CPU Funny how she didn't say 1800x isn't it?
Camden Walker
any review showing an 1800x behind intel is a botched review not their fault exactly but some of this stuff should be slap you in the face obvious
Juan Wright
>7700k has literally 2 more fps average which could literally be a margin of error
>LOOK GAIS IS FUCKING TERRIBAD FOR GAYMEN!
Isaac Morris
Gamers are fucking faggots.
As a developer, the Ryzen is a dream come true.
John Cox
As a gaming developer, Ryzen in no way changed anything.
Josiah Ortiz
>A higher-clocked quad-core chip like the Intel i7-7700K or 7600K is still the best choice of processor for no-compromise gamers "No-compromise"? There isn't even a budgetary advantage to getting an 1800. It's more expensive than the 7700k by $150...
Ah, yes, because nothing says "good purchase" like a product that only well on shit that no one plays anymore.
Jack James
> the ugly > the most expensive chip on the market is still the best option for something that mostly relies on gpu performance
I'll be glad if it doen't do games very well, that can be intels niche
Lucas Cook
>game developer as game developer you are a cuck who only wishes to die every day.
Carson Gray
why do they always use fucking Rise of the Dogshit Tomb Raider for fucking everything? oh right because Intel concentrated a lot of effort optimizing for it
Austin Fisher
>I-It's 4/6 core clocked to 5ghz btfoing intel I swear. It's sad at this point.
Adrian Long
Ok so it can render a scene in Blender faster and it can compile the linux kernel faster. Its really gonna fly of those shelves....
Eli Flores
this board is autistic
Jaxson Cruz
The Intel chips AFAIK were typically 500-1000Ghz+ over the Ryzen. This held true for even the older Haswell parts. It seems to me the benchmarks were quite an eye opener as AMD seems to have it's shit together. Ryzen seems to do many things much more efficiently on the motherboard chipsets as well. I'm impressed.
Asher Jones
...
Leo Anderson
> tfw intel abandons cpu and gpu for dedicated vidya processing units
Cooper Smith
At only double the price. What a deal.
Josiah Gutierrez
There is literally nothing wrong with this review but shills from both sides will shitpost endlessly about it.
Carter Ross
>$320 and $240 >most expensive chip in the market what the fuck are you talking about
Isaiah Perez
And so the wait begins
Parker Butler
>mobile gaming
Blake Murphy
Specialized AVX already runs better on Xeon Phi's than anything else, but 80% or more of float heavy HPC workloads BTFO all CPU's with GPU accel, where the Zen server chips will far outperform Intel for cost, power draw, and density in the near future. The number of use cases for AVX where GPU accel isn't available or more optimal is incredibly limited and not even CERN could find a reason to write AVX heavy code, as it degraded performance rather than increasing it. >He fell for the AVX meme.
Noah Williams
>5ghz how old are you that 5 ghz is not a counterpoint
Daniel Rogers
Should I go AMD for my mITX NAS build?
Since Ryzen threads are being spammed nonstop, I will spam this question until I get a satisfactory answer.
Brandon Torres
im still on the AM2 chipset, feelsbadman
Joshua Long
No iGPU and lack of mini itx boards could be a problem.
Austin Cox
If you need your server to render/transcode on the fly, then yeah, go for the r7 1700. 65w tdp, 8 cores 16 threads.
Main issue is you will probably need to get an expensive hba card for your drives due to the lack of sata ports and limited pcie slots.
Consider waiting a couple months, asrock or supermicro will probably have a proper server/workstation itx.
Sebastian Price
>games
Jace Richardson
I'd wait to see if there's Intel response to this AMD thuggery. But waiting always cheapest reaction
Bentley Thompson
If it runs: Battle Brothers, Stardew Valley, RimWorld, CS 1.6, Company of Heroes, Empire Earth, SWAT 4, It's good for me.
Joseph Carter
Performance is ipc*clock speed retard. Zen is clocked 1ghz lower while having roughly the same ips as broadwell thus 7700k stopms it in anyting not using 16 threads.
Gabriel Ward
welp, I've had enough of amd, if this gives any insight on how R5, R3 and Vega will go, off to jew land for me.
Elijah Rivera
I'd like to see all the Intel fanboys pick up a 6900k for their gaymens.
Didn't think so.
Adam Fisher
If >Excellent performance in workstation applications is the only part of that I actually care about, would I still consider Intel?
Joseph Morris
whats disturbing is the 1800x falling behind a 6800k in games. similar clock speeds with the 1800x having the increased core count.
and i'm not talking about 5 - 7% difference. i'm talking about upwards to 20% and a few, 30%.
there is something terribly wrong with its gaming performance because in everything else, the 1800x keeps up with the 6900k and blows the 6800(6850)k out of the water.
well sorta, the only time where x99 in general "wins" is in memory bandwidth and latency sensitive applications because atm, ryzen is enduring very high latency (80-100ms average) and x99 is quad channel so increased bandwidth where a quad channel 2400 kit provides the same level of bandwidth as dual channel 4000mhz.
honestly i wouldn't be surprised if memory latency is causing some of this regression in gaymes as memory latency does matter. even bandwidth is mattering again.
Jackson Sanchez
>/gadgets/ dropped
Wyatt Moore
The interesting thing to me is that it actually seems to be a colossal motherboard fuckup. The game review scores on Gigabyte and MSI are noticeably different than ASUS'. Sadly, it seems that the most common board sent to reviewers were ASUS boards.
Daniel Garcia
>W-where did they mention games >i-it was marketed as a workstation only cpu youtube.com/watch?v=JAMijA3uvsw Fuck you, you ryzen fanboys are as fucking annoying as intel fanboys.
Mason Carter
It's not the CPU's job to be massively multithreaded, it's the GPU's: AMD kids are illiterate in technology. They pretend a CPU is a GPU.....
Carson Lopez
Is that why it supports ECC memory?
Benjamin Parker
in all fairness, the cpu is actually way better than the reviews show it.
but again AMD managed to fuck shit up.
the reason for the shitty performance is due to the motherboards being autistic. if they where better optimized, then expect the 1800x singlethreaded performance to be on par with kaby.
again if AMD hadnt fucked it up, all would be great.
Cooper Campbell
7700K is quad core though. 1800 is Octa core, price comparison is irrelevant. Or wait, sorta. Intel deca core cost like $1-2k while 1800 goes 2 less cores (20% less total cores) for over 50% price drop.
The most expensive/powerful CPU of a balanced performance/price set isn't the game changer boi. It's the lower end stuff that matters. Where else do you get a quad core / threads at 3.1 ghz, 14nm die size, modern processor at just $129?
Alexander Walker
>Company of Heroes Top tier taste, user
Isaiah Ross
You do know that most people aren't as retarded as you and don't buy a $500 8 core processor that excels in multithreaded workloads just to play video games on, right?
Colton Price
Then you didn't pay much attention to their marketing.
Liam Young
>mfw AMDrones now claim that it has never been marketed as a gaming CPU >mfw all they have to do is go to AMDs main page
Justin Mitchell
^This. SO. MANY. TIMES
I get that the 1800 looks sick with its 8 core. But that is just for show/workstation. The value for performance is where the shining gem is.
$129 for quad core, is absolutely sick. I give no jacks for the 1800/1700
Justin Richardson
I'm seriously baffled when I read this board, why are all these kids from Sup Forums arguing about which 6/8 core CPU is the best for gaming when you can just buy a quad core and get an infinitely better GPU with your money?
Leo Myers
I guess they are all "But muh top dog of Ryzen can't compete against Intel hurr"
Isaac Sullivan
>I'm seriously baffled when I read this board, why are all these kids from Sup Forums arguing about which 6/8 core CPU is the best for gaming when you can just buy a quad core and get an infinitely better GPU with your money? >kids there's your answer.
