>Macbooks are overpriced >Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, the best trackpads in existence, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs, and the best build quality and support in the business >...
they're 'overpriced' because the average person buys a $300 piece of shit from Walmart
Ian Hall
MBPR user here, really want an X1C hold me Sup Forums
Nathaniel Moore
I use a macbook for school and can easily say that it's better for normal casual use not programming gaming etc.
Gabriel Perez
prepare to be assblasted by hispanic kids full of impotent rage
Juan Hill
>light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, the best trackpads in existence, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs, and the best build quality and support in the business All placebos. Can't believe you are paying $1300 for a fucking DUAL CORE! Are you still in 2005?
John Lopez
And then something breaks and you have to replace the whole unit instead of a single part.
Jordan Clark
>your laptop: Macbook >your desktop: self-build PC only right choice
Brody Foster
>buying a laptop with a screen other than 14" does apple even make a 14 incher? I mean it is objectively the best portability to comfort ratio out there.
>2006-2015 >trackpad impossible to click near upper edge >extremely loose near bottom edge >overall flimsy diving board piece of shit >even applel admitted it's shit and trashed the design to go back to copying 90's laptops with solid non-click touchpads >still has no real buttons >relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit >if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended >shit tier 1mm travel chiclet kb >OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management >applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it >even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks >gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks >the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters >overheats at the slightest task because abysmal crippled cooling system >throttles to 800mhz because of chronic overheating problems >retina meme supposedly for "pros" have have gloss mirror coating makes it impossible to use with overhead lighting >blurry as shit retina meme scaling >shitbook air is even worse with glossy 1366x768 TN eye cancer >systemic battery explosion problems for over a decade
>can't use any existing TB3 devices >can't use USB and wifi at the same time >ultra shit tier zero travel kb >keyboard louder than WWII cricket >memetouch emojibar >no USB-A >no escape >soldered ram >soldered SSD >tamper tape on battery screws
>macshit is good Can we finally put an end to this meme?
Joshua Phillips
>Chick shit >build quality
Nathaniel Perry
>applefag says they are overpriced >still buys one to show he's not poor They aren't overpriced its just not a good laptop in general. At 1k I expect more workstation specs not some consumer facebook machine with usb ports
Gavin Brooks
Lol "xenon" it's Xeon
Jaxon Rogers
/thread
Mason Reyes
MacBook owner here, there are a few alternatives but none of them are great
spectre x360: >new models are more expensive than the Mac and have mixed reviews >old models have a pentile display >doesn't compete with build quality and trackpad
dell XPS 13: >webcam points up nose >really bad build quality >bad trackpad
And let's not forget Windows scaling issues among other things. The main problem is that the two non-Mac offerings are going to be shitpiles about a year after purchase whereas the Mac will still be a sexy, sturdy little machine, trucking along and servings its purpose. In fact, our school district is still using ancient Macbook Airs, and despite what the kids put them through, they're still trucking along, serving their purpose.
Lots of bias and retardation in these threads. See also: >hurdur we can have muh chink cellphone threads and thinkpad thread 24-7 but if you talk about a Mac it's spam This is why people post the "you can't afford it" meme, because it's true for about half of you and for the rest of you it's still a good troll. This board is full of unintelligent children who both hate themselves and have huge egos—it's really weird, honestly.
Nicholas Wood
i have an xps 15 right now. (3 days in)
battery life is definitely not comparable to my rMBP 15. The keyboard and trackpad are better on the mbp too. The xps trackpad is total shit. The screens aren't super comparable, each good in their own way. I like having a touch screen for onenote which is why I got it in the first place. I'm still not sure if I'll keep this thing. Windows 10 is a steaming pile of shit. I bought this xps direct from Dell and it has a slight warp in the case and some bad sound interference from the headphone jack.
I really expected the xps to be a mbp killer but I'm not convinced anymore.
Ryan Campbell
t. macshill
William Brown
Fanless ultra light Macbook or bust, but you have to admit it's really fucking expensive.
Zachary Johnson
that's the thing, i wanna get rid of my mbp but I haven't found a reasonable solution yet.
(also I'll only switch to something with touch screen)
Sebastian Russell
how do I into adjustable window tiling on Macs?
Also I've tried mac computers and it seems like when you have multiple instances of the same program open, you can't easily switch between them with alt-tabbing.
Benjamin Powell
i second this
Nicholas Thomas
agreed
Luis Lee
>your laptop: chromebook or cheap used thinkpad/dell >your desktop: self build pc running windows and linux in dualboot
fixed it for you
Wyatt Cook
>you can't easily switch between them with alt-tabbing winbabies and mactoddlers still can't fix their bugs themselves with simple scripts
Aaron Butler
Option 1: Hot corners and Exposé Option 2: You can 4 finger swipe between virtual desktops and fullscreen apps
Mac OS 10.11 supports some sort of window tiling. Essentially side by side fullscreen apps. Haven't tried it yet
Isaiah Evans
> overpriced you will never know how it feels to program on xcode
Joshua Sanders
lets say you have three instances of photoshop open, editing 3 different pictures. then you have after effects safari and a file manager open. are you telling me to get to switch between the 3 photoshop instances I need to fullscreen them all and swipe through them?
Justin Scott
Asus ZenBook UX501 Double the Memory with a 4k touchscreen and a discrete GPU. Get rekt macfag.
Luis Brown
retina displays suck
only use the non-glossy screens
Carson Rodriguez
>battery life >fit and finish >longevity >trackpad >general build quality >probably pentile shit
Ayden Anderson
They're not 'overpriced'. It's just that they're consumer products priced like professional hardware. >2560x1600 retina display Shit's glossy as fuck >best trackpads in existence Trackpads are the worst input devices in the business Also they have really crappy chiclet keyboards with broken layouts. >best build quality When can that meme finally die? Macbooks have a long history of production errors. >outstanding battery life Why even bring that up with the recent 'scandal' about short battery life due to broken Apple software?
I would get one though if they came with matte screens and decent keyboards and of course after I gave early adopters six months to beta test for me.
Nicholas Fisher
Trackpad is great, don't use it all that much though because >4k Touchscreen
Battery life is a good 6-7 hours or so, and the case is this tough as hell brushed aluminum.
Liam Roberts
Mac air $999
Display 13.3-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit glossy widescreen display with support for millions of colors Supported resolutions: 1440 by 900 (native), 1280 by 800, 1152 by 720, and 1024 by 640 pixels at 16:10 aspect ratio and 1024 by 768 and 800 by 600 pixels at 4:3 aspect ratio Storage1 128GB PCIe-based flash storage
Processor 1.6GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 (Turbo Boost up to 2.7GHz) with 3MB shared L3 cache Configurable to 2.2GHz dual-core Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 3.2GHz) with 4MB shared L3 cache.
Memory 8GB of 1600MHz LPDDR3 onboard memory
Battery and Power2 Up to 12 hours wireless web Up to 12 hours iTunes movie playback Up to 30 days standby time Built-in 54‑watt‑hour lithium‑polymer battery 45W MagSafe 2 Power Adapter with cable management; MagSafe 2 power port
Graphics and Video Support Intel HD Graphics 6000
Dell xps 13 $799.99
Processor 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-7100U (3MB Cache, up to 2.4 GHz)
Memoryi 4GB LPDDR3 1866MHz
Display 13.3" FHD AG (1920 x 1080) InfinityEdge display
Video Card Intel HD Graphics 5500
Hard Drive 128GB Solid State Drive
Brayden Kelly
>not for programming
Josiah Perez
Paying $1300 for a laptop that is not workstation class is stupid. It's retarded. It's idiotic. It's moron.
I don't have a word for how poor of a choice this is. You are getting ripped off. You don't need it for what you're going to do with it.
Do not spend more than $300 on a laptop unless you can give a very specific reason why you need to. A specific usage scenario. And even then I bet you don't really need it.
Colton Flores
>your laptop: Thinkpad from ebay >your desktop: Dell/Lenovo/HP dual Xeon Workstation from ebay with GPU upgraded
This is the true Sup Forums way.
Mason Price
I don't get the Macbook hate. Yes, they are pretty expensive, but think of all the stuff you do on it. It's literally your entire life. That's a really small price to pay for all of that. Anyone working a normal job, even a minimum wage job, should be OK with shelling out that much money for a quality product like a Macbook.
Alexander Campbell
t. poorfag
Owen Brown
Most people are just childish, they don't even really hate Apple, they hate their customers, those smug scummy hipster fucks who think they have a grasp on technology and proudly tell you that the CPU in the iPhone is called A9 and have no fucking clue what a CPU even does.
Owen Taylor
>2011 MBP 17 inch >same price >1TB SATA 3 SSD >16GB RAM that isn't soldered >Core i7 4th gen
2011 MacBooks are best MacBooks.
Brayden Murphy
literally me: laptop: 2 thinkpads from ebay desktops: HP for linux shitty shit + Dell for NetBSD shitty shit proper desktop: assembled gayman rig from used parts from ebay + Windows 10
Ethan Cruz
>tfw my thinkpad is everything laptop: thinkpad desktop: thinkpad on docking station with dual monitors
Matthew Adams
I've had my rMBP and it's ruined me. I never want another laptop that isn't an rMBP. It's too bad the new one is crap. Maybe I can get my hands on a nice 2015 one when it's time to upgrade.
Robert Adams
your CPU doesn't emit xenon lighting?
Dominic Moore
I just replaced my 2011 13" with a 2015 13," and I love it. Worth every penny. There's more to life than hardware specs.
The 2016 MBPs are overpriced, though, especially when you consider you can't even get a 15" screen or 4 USB-C ports without paying for the gimmicky Touch Bar. That's just twisting the customer's arm, and I don't like it.
John Garcia
no. that's what Exposé is for.
Michael Bennett
>Core i7 4th gen >2011
Christian Martinez
here's why every apple user is a fucking retard: >sees apple ads in TV about how user friendly macs are ("computers for the rest of us", aka for idiots) >friends recommend apple products because they are apple uses themselves >"minimalistic" design appeals to the retard, he can't predict that the materials used are designed to be so flimsy to break, also ignores how other products are more ergonomic to use since those aren't just slabs of aluminium >compares $2000 applel product to the only other laptops he's ever used: $300 walmart trash and is amazed how ""premium"" apple is >begins to use mac OS and since it's a bit more user friendly he believes it's the greatest thing ever >now stuck in the apple ecosystem, has to buy a new model every 3 years because some of the hardware broke (planned obsolescence) >likely a dumb poorfag so he has to take a loan just to buy the fucking computers >even recommends apple to friends and tries to justify his position with unrealistic claims ("muh special functions only apple has", "I have a higher status in society if people see my computer", "it just werks", "muh special application NEEDS mac OS")
>worst of all, he doesn't even notice how much he has been cucked
tl;dr macfags are fucking retarded
Kevin Howard
Xps 13 High end thinkpad ... maybe some Asus/Acer crap or system 76.
So basicly of ton a equivalent specs for the same price/ sometime cheaper
Carter Perry
This exact thread with the same picture is posted regularly here, quit replying to it you faggots.
Sage/report/hide.
Juan Diaz
Which literally no laptop had until about 2016. I admit the new MacBook Pro is trash, but other mobile workstations didn't have much on the older ones.
Carter Williams
You realize that people IRL talk behind your back about how autistic you are, do you?
Eli Kelly
Patrician non-NEET taste.
Jose Martinez
>he doesn't even build his own PC
Levi King
You send it to Apple and they fix it, no questions asked.
Evan Clark
>>Macbooks are overpriced wait for it.... ... ... >>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop
Everybody ITT can be shot.
Caleb Bailey
>>now stuck in the apple ecosystem, has to buy a new model every 3 years because some of the hardware broke (planned obsolescence)
You do realize Apple has some of the best customer support in the world, right? And that MacBooks are known to last (and retain their value) for 5+ years?
But say something does break in 3 years. That situation is likely to play out as:
>Hey Apple, my MacBook is broken, and my AppleCare expired last year
>Really, user? That's no problem, we'll go ahead and fix it free of charge, because you are such a loyal customer
And that's not to mention the people that have gotten free replacements for their machines.
>inb4 some butthurt anti-Apple faggot starts bitching and claiming Apple is actually terrible
Justin Cooper
>Apple is sorry to inform you your breath popped one of the 100,000 moisture sensors and now your warranty is void
Jaxon Davis
it may not be 'overpriced' looking at the features and the fact that it has an amazing apple logo, but if you consider the fact that I use a U$ 30,00 thinkpad to very probably do the same thing you do with your U$ 1300,00 notebook, yes, it is overpriced as fuck
Eli Hall
>not programming >UNIX, Bash >comes with python, c compiler out of the box etc
thanks Windows Call Center ... you did it again!
wtf i love windows for programming now
David Torres
Can confirm they don't give a flying fuck if you don't have Apple Care/ Not a recall.
pic unrelated
Bentley Ross
General use: Linux > Mac OS > Windows Technical use: Linux > Windows > Mac OS Not getting royally fucked by a consumer cult: Linux >
David Gray
>most important things for user experience.
>t. mactoddler
Eli Wright
>Technical use: Linux > Windows > Mac OS
t. wintoddler who never used macOS
How fucking stupid are you fucking faggots?! Stop coming to this board.
macOS us literally Unix Based and has a terminal and for the right user its nothing but another Linux Distro ... but you fucking gaymer shits come here and pretend its less technical because it also happens to be easy to use
Brandon White
>its nothing but another Linux Distro
Yeah, good luck changing the DE/theme and using a PM that isn't shit
Nicholas Cooper
>being that retarded
educate yourself ... embarassing tbqh
Carter Nguyen
Good argument
Cooper Morales
not my fault you unironically believe an unix based OS with terminal, bash is less customizable than windows 10 kek
i just stop talking to ebin gaymer youtube comment shill microsoft call center shills on Sup Forums
Jonathan Perez
Thinkpad Carbon? I know mine has better specs and looks better. Not sure on price but in U.S. In Australia I picked the Thinkpad up for same price with better specs.
Kevin Brown
I am also a Macfag, but you gotta admit Macbooks are overpriced, specially the new ones.
With the XPS 15 you're getting a much better deal, a Kaby quad i7 + GTX 1050ti for what, 1899? The 15 inch retina starts at $2399 (lmao) and gives you a Radeon 450, Skylake quad i7 and only 256GB of storage.
With that said, I would still get the Mac because I really enjoy MacOS and superior build quality. Also I'm not a poorfag.
Joseph Morgan
>he derives pride and worth from electronic lego
I mean I built mine, but it's nothing to be proud of.
Charles Robinson
I bought my rMBP back in early 2014. From around may 2015 to late 2016 I left it plugged 24/7 and the battery got swollen. Got it replaced along with mobo for free. So I basically got a new laptop for free. Best service is best service
Bentley Howard
Install spectacle or bettertouchtool.
Zachary Butler
I don't think that, I specifically responded to "nothing but another Linux Distro" which it clearly is not
>i nearly got my face burned off by applel chinktrash b-b-b-but i luv apel!!!!
Michael Diaz
>I'm gonna pull whatever shit comes out of my ass and post it >that'll show those macfags But, user, that's not what I said.
Ryan Johnson
If you have multiple windows of an application open, the hotkey to flip through them is Command-`
Cooper Diaz
Surface Book is the obvious way forward here.
Joshua Johnson
You forgot the part where it forces you to use a shitty buggy as fuck operating system with terrible drivers.
Anthony Fisher
Why don't they use toughbooks or something similar for these missions? The newer Lenovo models are trash.
William Sanders
Upper level P or X series ThinkPads with 4k, not some shitty 2k mene at the same price. Kys OP
Joshua Bennett
>Literally any warranty service ever
Brody James
/thread
Nolan Jackson
>t. mactoddler
Thomas Walker
Remember the retina! You can't get retina with anything else because retina is best retina, desu.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
/thread
Nathaniel Martinez
The Spectre build quality is basically the same aluminum unibody as the MacBook, like many ultrabooks nowadays Build quality used to be an argument for macs, now it's just normal and expected
>>Guy demands upgrade to newer model phone rather than free replacement of current model
>>"Bad service"
Owen Adams
>tfw my 5yo MBA is starting to fail Literally the best computer I've ever had: light, good battery life, Trackpad is perfect, It just werks.
Honestly I wouldn't be buying an apple computer again since the new MBA are basically tablets and a mbp is too expensive, for not talking about the latest system upgrades (siri and other bloat for the normie) I'm considering buying a new battery and a new sdd so I can use it for at least 3 years more, when it dies I'll go for the thibkpad meme
Charles Harris
Would you recommend getting a 2015 12" MB or a 2013 13" MBPr? Both are around $900 refurbished.
Juan Nguyen
This is true patrician
Josiah Flores
>Battery life is a good 6-7 hours or so
LMFAO
Ryder Brown
>Technical use: Windows > Mac OS
Nolan Baker
Macfags removed "great keyboards" from the OP's copypasta after the flaming trash that is the 2016 version's keyboard.