/cyb/ - The Cyberpunk General

"Matrix Flips" Edition

These threads are for discussion of all things Cyberpunk, from movies, TV, websites, games, and even current events.
Related topics range from fashion, to personal security and anonymity, to alternative and creative hardware, and much more.

>What is cyberpunk?
Cyberpunk is a genre of science fiction set in a lawless subculture of an oppressive society dominated by computer technology.

>>> Resources Old Pasta

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youtube.com/watch?v=-7xvqQeoA8c&t=1s
pastebin.com/PZkYkEW7
youtube.com/watch?v=x0FJ-ssD6-c
a.lainfile.pw/HD
a.lainfile.pw/HE
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/839151511838015488
youtube.com/user/ZenerDanger
wikileaks.org/
twitter.com/AnonBabble

well this thread has been a slow disappointment so far, this week alone we've had corporations and governments exposed for their ongoing cyberwar shit and ain't nobody bat an eye.

Please explain.

uber greyball, DOJ tor break (probly just a torbrowser javascript exploit)

first for robotic nightmare
youtube.com/watch?v=-7xvqQeoA8c&t=1s

OMG thats exactly what I thought when I saw them, fucking return to oz gave me nightmares as a kid.

That's because we've been living in the cyber punk dystopian future for so long it seems normal.

what the fuck

Fucking love that movie. Wish kids shows today had those kind of balls. You felt like Dorothy was actually in danger, and that there was something to lose. It made the ending so much better.

Anyone knows any tech/programming/hacker communities/forums/websites ?

I hear Sup Forums's Sup Forums fucking sucks.

i know, thats why im asking

btw you are so funny and original

Why isn't there any news about System Shock 3. :(

Updated version of the Organized links:
pastebin.com/PZkYkEW7
replace that shit or update it, chummer

I never even played through a system shock, I played SS1 a bit as a kid. I own SS2 but it's 2 spooky for me.

Check the github in the OP chummer.

You really, really, really do not know what you are missing.

reminder that cyberpunk is now: they brought the dystopia, you gotta bring the aesthetic/

those monkeys are scary man, also I don't like space. Also scary.

Best cyb game I ever played was like... one single level of timesplitters maybe.

why does the infosec thread in Sup Forums suck so much? between this and the fucko threads, we only get shitposting, and I bet no one learns anything technical, at all

why can't we have a nice thread where we can share and learn new stuff instead of talking about
>hurr durr da police
>hurr cyber punk
?

What about Deus Ex?
You're missing out on so much cyberpunk awesomeness! D:

I think theres only so much that can be discussed in the abstract sense of security before it just devolves into spoonfeeding. I think the ideas behind proper infosec/privacy get discussed a lot, I just wish there was more discussion about different techniques and methods that people have tried

Cause Sup Forums and Sup Forums consumer electronics.

Yeah man I've played everything but... infinity war? I also really really enjoy the new shadowrun RPGs but they just don't hit me as hard. I think I get off in the dystopian-noir vibe more than just the tech.

youtube.com/watch?v=x0FJ-ssD6-c

>Cause Sup Forums and Sup Forums consumer electronics.
there's a few good dumpster diving threads on /diy/ right now

/diy/ has always been great. Sup Forums has never been good.

I agree; I love the dystopia atmosphere and the stories in cyberpunk material, and I like how a lot of cyberpunk material (especially anime and games) gets into philosophical territories.

Agreed, though I feel like we'd get laughed off the board if we made a /cyb/ thread there. There's plenty of cyb shit over there, tho.

I used a locally saved copy of the pasta. Sorry.

The Pastebin version should be up to date.

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m8, cyber punk reality has been around since the mid 90's, and has only escalated since then. It didn't just pop up last November.

"Escalated" is too weak of a word; "skyrocketed" is more precise.

I completely agree.

I was just using the image cause it looked cool, I'm not that naive.

I agree, it's pretty aesthetic.

At any given time there's like one or two 'comfy' threads on /wsg/, I always feel like they should be linked in the pasta or something because most of them are pretty /cyb/

Speaking of comfy. Your gif is what I wanted to live in. One room, small kitchenette, modular bathroom with a convertible shower, don't even need the balcony.

Sup /cyb/. I've got a defensive hacking competition coming up in the next couple weeks. Anyone participated in one before?

I haven't, but it sounds fun.
What do you have to deal with? Do they tell you anything in advance or just spring something on you when you get there?
Are you on a team?

It is pretty rad, this is only my first year on the team but some of my teammates have been doing it a couple years now. There's 8 on a team and basically they just put you in a shitty situation that you have to lock down, and then they have a pretend CEO throw bullshit requests at you that you have to complete on a timer while defending against attackers.

They kind of make everything purposefully as difficult as possible, i.e. I am on the linux subteam so they stuck me on the ubuntu machine, which wasn't so bad but they don't give you passwords or anything, you have to break into your own machine before you secure it. They gave my poor friend though the bsd machine which turned out to be running an openbsd version over a decade old, it was apparently so fucked they compiled the entire thing from source. There were also some swiss cheese versions of windows server 2003 and a knoppix box where they destroyed the graphics stack so you had to keep fixing shit as it broke in order to keep the thing running. Crazy stuff.

I can post the debrief if anyone's interested once I make sure there's no personal info anywhere.

Good lord. Please do post a debrief.
I would be way over my head, but I think I would have fun as a spectator.

CCDC? Region?

Yeah, southwest.

I think these should be OK.
Qualifier debrief: a.lainfile.pw/HD
Regional debrief:
a.lainfile.pw/HE

Nice. I'm putting together a team at my uni for Southeast. We're not competing this year, as I'm still working on making training and getting people interested, but hopefully we'll see you in 2018.

Got any recommendations or other materials? I really appreciate the posted docs.

What's everyone been working on?

That's awesome, glad to have more people around. I could post more docs but you could probably find most of it on your own just googling for references. I would recommend perusing lain/sec/ every once in a while, I have picked up more than a bit of experience through reading stuff there and then trying it out myself.

because moet people in Sup Forums pretend to know shit when in reality they dont have the slightest idea. generally it quickly devolves in "muh tinfoil" and "encryption is for criminals" slurs and ad hominem.
Despite of this, there are the exceptional thread here and there that contain actual useful info, even if its not /cyb/ related.

not I never played the original Deus ex, I tried but I did find the keyboard interface too cumbersome. The interface didnt aged well at all. I would like for it to be remade, so people like me would taste all that greatfulness that I had been told about.

I am playing the Shadowrun series. The third one is my least favorite so far. My main gripe is with design of the missions and difficult level balancing. Some missions are super easy while others are extremely frustrating. I also didnt liked the matrix redesign, and I'm playing as a decker! the metal gear "stealth" gameplay is severely affected by the shitty characters controls, Strangely enough I liked the hacking minigames which most people dindt like.

Also there is too much history and lore. It would be nice to ahd that background stories delivered via missions, but sometimes you just found yourself 15-20 minutes reading over details that does not contribute to the main story. Its like a baker just found that sugar is nice and he thinks that adding more and more sugar will make a cake infinitely better.

Really, the third one is like a chore for me, I cannot wait for ot to end.

iirc someone made a mod that HD'd all of deus ex or something. I love hong kong's decking because it's much less RNG and possible to go silent in the minigames if you're good. Shadowrun's decking was always awful even on tabletop and minigames are a better option.

Also the fucking post-endgame expansiony missions are stupid hard. Like holy shit.

>moet people in Sup Forums pretend to know shit when in reality they dont have the slightest idea
>I can't play Deus Ex because it's old
>someone else should go out of their way to remake the game for me because "The interface didnt aged well"
If you think Sup Forums has problems with cancerous constituents then maybe it's time for some introspection user.

Got a cheep as fuck Iphone 6. Icloud locked and I'm removing the lock

Installing android soon after.

Am I cybp enough?

Rip performance

Would it really be worse than a non pimped android?

Mostly what I'm wondering. I can take a decent performance hit for the support I need.

I stand by my sayings. The keyboard interface is hideous, that is, how horribly are commands arranged on the keyboard. It was ok for its time, now its not.

I´m not complaining about the HUD. or the models,

>making a ad hominem
>not quoting the phrase in which I mentioned how many posts turn into slurs and ad hominem

oh the irony

You wanna know why people don't talk about security stuff?
It's pointless. You're only setting up certain levels of it to discourage people that don't have a lot of know how, time, or resources.
If you look at what the most important people do for security, take the U.S. president for example. Obama couldn't even have an old PDA. Trump was given a phone that basically didn't even have an internet connection.
It's kind of silly because you're pic related screencap is like someone wanting to start a whole new way of doing things because they have no idea why the things people use now have security flaws. I just didn't want to be a douche and shit post about it during that thread.
Here is spoon feeding, abandoning systems because of a flaw is stupid you're just going to have a system with a zero day flaw you have no idea about and less triedandtested security features than current stuff.. No matter what you do someone is going to be able to figure out a work around something it does. It's really only a matter of how difficult you want to make it for them. It's like if someone were to go through my trash, they'll find all sorts of stuff about what I buy and how much of it, anything useful is shredded and mixed in with disgusting trash and potential biohazards. Most people don't want to risk all that junk to try and decipher a mix of scrapped paper and piece it back together to find it was just a polite letter about my birthday, or some unimportant thing from my job that I destroyed to mix up with anything that might be important just to make things even more annoying if they wanted to go through the hassle of trashing that even destroyed documents that could be pieced back together with a lot of effort might be useless and not something important so they don't automatically know any destroyed stuff is automatically something important.

>I stand by my sayings. The keyboard interface is hideous, that is, how horribly are commands arranged on the keyboard. It was ok for its time, now its not.
Rebind them then.

Of course if you make sweeping remarks about the larger community you're going to draw ire on a personal level, you were already making a broader ad hominem attack. When you make such lazy complaints against a game it's only natural that others will think poorly of you individually. If you're so upset with the quality of discussion of Sup Forums, then trying to dispel valid criticism of your own post by crying "muh ad hominem" having such poor understanding of what it is and when it does and doesn't prevent a valid argument hardly validates your opinion.

trying to setup my pi3 so I can ssh into it from outside my house
baby steps

has anyone here played transitor?

You are accussing me of making an ad hominem just by stating some facts, not making personal attacks. You are trying to putting words in my mouth to teach me a lesson, or to make an example, i dont know which one is it.

My complaint is not a lazy one. Let me indulge you with some details then: For a long time I didnt had access to a computer with beefy enough graphics card to run games such as Deus ex (e.g.: I didnt even knew or owned a Vodoo). Many years later I bought it, and I really tried to play the thing to no avail. having tasted more recent approaches to keyboard command layouts I really found Deus Ex's one unpalatable. Its like trying to play, lets say Doom 2016 with the original Quake's kb layout. From Deus Ex days many things have changed and matured, some systems stood the test of time and, again, for me, that layout was not among those. You can argue that I dont like old schemes, but I played games as old as the original Fallout many years later with no problem.

>moet people in Sup Forums pretend to know shit when in reality they dont have the slightest idea
This comment is pretty clearly a slight against Sup Forums's users.

Deus Ex's default keybindings didn't age all that badly, at least if you had a mouse. They were just outright shit from the get-go, with shit like reloading and scoping being bound on the right side of the keyboard. But for the most part the functions available are what you can expect in any modern game, you just have to bind them to sane buttons. The only thing that's otherwise awkward is that using an item is done in the same way as selecting and using a weapon, but you get used to it fairly quickly once you're actually playing the game, and otherwise you might find it easier to just use the inventory menu to use items.

Is Qubes OS a cyber punk distro lads?

I wonder how secure it'd be to run a web scraper through tor.

I'm abandoning browsing and increasingly adopting scraping. I go to websites I like and reverse engineer their HTML/Javascript, and make my program pull the info for me. This way I pull data directly from the source and am unaffected by any javascript.

I did this so I'd be able to get information without shitty website UIs getting in the way, but I suppose it has security implications as well.

similar situation, disabled entire DOM event system in a userscript and occasionally bypass reactive/bullshit UI stuff in them. Already have most of the 2nd+ party requests blocked from the browser side but 1st party javascript is still haram.

so by doing this revere engieneering you get even the content thats is commonly behind some cumbersome script?

Interesting. If you dont mind me asking, which site was the hardest to scrap using your techniques?

Yes, its a case in which the whole is better than the sum of its parts, The music is amazing, the art is beautifull, the gameplay interesting and easy to get use to. The hardest part is in getting the most efficient combination of powers that convey a synergestic outcome.

Its one of those rare games I felt compelled to get all the achievements, because some were really interesting and somewhat demanding, but once you get a grip of the powers and abilities and how they interact is easy.

Oh and the story while not purely /cyb/ is interesting, but somewhat simplistic.

Having said all that, IMHO is a game worth playing

They're all pretty easy. Normally you just navigate the HTML tree and extract the nodes you wish to consume. The worst that can possibly happen is some obfuscated Javascript that dynamically adds content to the page. These are the sites that break if you disable Javascript.

I just view source and look at what the functions are doing. Usually there's a function that runs on a timer and issues a request for the data. You can also see this happening if you monitor network activity.

Now it's a simple matter of grabbing that URL and making requests directly to it, completely bypassing all that HTML page business. The data will necessarily have to come from there so why not cut out the middleman? You just figure out the structure of the data (it's often JSON) and you're done. Ironically, it makes your scraping job even easier.

Sounds like you could chuck what you've done into a browser extension or similar and rake in that donation money. Allow users to choose a standardised UI to read and use any supported website or something to effect, though I suppose the reader functionality already available in most browsers soft of already does this in a less graceful manner.

Heh. My scraper actually started out as a browser extension. I find the Chromium APIs to be way more comfortable than Node. V8 gains features much faster than Node too. It has things like web workers, which Node desperately needs.

I like the idea of building my own custom UI for websites. It's essentially what mobile apps do anyway: serve as a front end so that you can transfer just data instead of the UI markup and code.

I build these things for myself so if I released my code I'd only target programmers; people who aren't scared of technical concepts. The audience is pretty limited... Plus, it allows me to completely ignore things such as ads. While I think it's hilarious to watch people shit themselves due to their failed business model, I'd rather do it anonymously.

I'm making a chan aggregator app that lets you browse a combination of boards in one catalog

like tweetdeck?

yeah pretty much exactly that, though mine looks way worse right now

can we get a link to the repo? might be able to help some

definitely

Sick, what are you writing it in?

I'll be uploading it to github in a week or so, I want to finish the image grabbing for every board

It's in python with pyqt right now, but it's pretty ass and super slow

oh cool, could also assist some if you wanted

Sounds neat, will follow

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/839151511838015488
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/839151511838015488
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/839151511838015488
tfw cyb is /now/

What some must read cyberpunk or cypherpunk books?

What will those quantum computers from IBM be used for?

You runnin' eagle m80? What you working on?

we cyberpunk nao

Now that we are all fucked i gotta ask. Arent there fucking laws that are supposed to prevent this shit? CIA is an american agency, so they just randomly backdoor any computer in the world? Come on now.

Almost done downloading it. I wish I was smart enough to actually make sense of the docs themselves, but I have a feeling their availability might take a hit not long from now. Bittorrent helps.

Yeah. It reminds me of that malware that some 3letter developed that hid in the RAM of its targets computer, completely undetectable.

Not me unfortunately, boss. That guy frequents /diy/ though, he's done some pretty schway things if i do say so myself.
youtube.com/user/ZenerDanger

makes me wish jinteki was still active, they could keep updates on that kind of shit over there.

I really been wondering. My thread got destroyed and the replacement was just bitching about the corporation being a shill
Brute forcing 32 and 64 bit systems,nasa will probably have one for crunching numbers. The second largest bitcoin holder after that australian guy will probably admit they been using one for them.
At least the military won't need to purchase up all the old fat ps3's some of us want as collectables for their super computer clusters anymore.

Oh yeah, I just saw him post his LED wall test. I'm working on a 3D printed LED neon sign. Can't wait until I get the prototype made. Still doing the CADing and prototyping.

That wasn't you on lainchan, was it?

No. I don't post anywhere but here typically.

I've read about 30% of Neuromancer so far.

Welp see ya later!

what's that on the image?

readthefilename.jpg

Nixie clock I've been working on.

>striving to be just above the poverty line
have you no self respect

==Tech to avoid==
-Smart TVs/monitors
-newer cars
-smartphones

read for yourselves, you aren't safe
wikileaks.org/ ciav7p1/

where dl?

anyone here from /k/? what's the most cyberpunk gun? the major uses a cz 100 in gits but it's discontinued

Can't paste and post, spam detection has a fit. Pic related is the link.

It downloads as .7z. The password is "SplinterItIntoAThousandPiecesAndScatterItIntoTheWinds" (case sensitive).

probly vektor, silly as it is.

I'm a professional. I make good money, and honestly my house has a part of it that my wife and I never use. Not really comfy.