Why should people care about their privacy ?

Why should people care about their privacy ?

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>I don't care about privacy. I've nothing to hide
>I don't care about free speech. I've nothing to say

Encryption defend your data from evildoers who copy pedo shit to your disk and call police to arrest you. It happened irl at a school.

they mad becuz shitnux has no games
so they pretend to care about sth

I love my games, but can dualboot if that matters.

It's a human right.

>posting on an a anonymous website
>pretending not to care about privacy

Why don't you tell us your full name and address. Also maybe post your email address and password, I just want to look through your communications and make sure you're safe. Don't worry, you have nothing to hide, right?

You can run WIndows on near bare-metal using gpu passthrough. That make it possible to play any game on linux, even Battlefield if you got the specs. Then there is wine. You just run "wine some.exe" and it runs pretty good. I run Resident Evil 4 in wine and it's flawless. I can also run Soul Reaver just fine. Need For Speed Carbon runs perfectly. Unreal Tournament... of course. There are tonnes of games you can play on linux.

>That make it possible to play any game on linux
No, you're still playing the game on Windows, in a VM running on Linux.

A whole bunch of reasons but since Sup Forums is topical here, consider the benefits of anonymity in discussion boards. Ethos is removed from the equation, removing authority-appealing bullshit and institutionally propagated ideas are able to be questioned. Ideas normally rejected by any audience as uninformed hogwash due to the populace's collective validation filter (or the filter artificially created by the feds and so installed if you're "woke") can stand on their own unaided merits. It's a simple enough concept that you probably get on some level if you're posting here, but for worries regarding privacy and global monitoring, take the same concepts and work in reverse.
Without the ability to compartmentalize your life according to your whim, your hand is shown in games you aren't even playing. Your public and/or monitored character is a unbroken gestalt of your outward actions and consumption. Without privacy walls, you'll be disregarded as an opinion holder, evidence presenter, or even firsthand account based on apparently unrelated views you hold. You'll constantly be targeted by inhumane advertisement campaigns scientifically designed to prey on whatever weakness or character flaw can be uncovered or extrapolated. The way you are treated and the options available to you will become dependent not on the capacities you hold and deem relevant, but by the interpretation of you generated by an algorithm, surveillance state, corporation, or public body.
Privacy is important, in part, because it is a tool that allows people to self-define or avoid unwanted definition. People should care about it because it's constantly slipping from our grasp, and the earliest canaries have started choking. Some say one canary is fine, or two or twelve. Others have already taken a hardline stance that just one dead canary is too much. But what do they know? Those people are crazy, they're all unkempt and unintelligent liberal arts hippies. Long hair = discarded opinion.

>on Linux.

I just wanted to point out that little detail in your sentence.

No one should. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

>No one should care about privacy

You're a cuck. A duck and a dumb fuck! I respectfully demand you jump in a canyon.

If you don't care then completely remove all the doors and windows from your house, or destroy the locks so they are forever unlocked,
and see how that goes for you.

If you don't care about your privacy then is it privacy?

In what ways physical and virtual properties are comparable.

In that they both contain the same personal information of your life, just in different form.

A person scouring your computer, and say your bank accounts because you were so nice to leave the websites open or give out your username and password for all to see,
is not any different from them scouring your physical financial papers.

Do you open your doors to any policeman who decides to barge into your house for shits and giggles, or do you ask for a warrant?
Oh you don't like random police officers coming in without a reason? What are your trying to hide?

Would you like people watching you while you shower naked?

Because it's inevitable all this shit will be leaked eventually.

Becasu its about you. Information about your habits and your safety. In both cases, having poor security put you at risk

>Leave websites open
>give out usernames and passwords

These are not things that average users do though

Because they make money from it.
If got paid for everything they collect about me i would have no complains.

But you get to use services for free

The average users also don't give out their financial papers and make sure that nobody can get their hands on them through various means.

Because their houses are closed and secure.
Because you use a wallet to hold your documents and papers of value instead of keeping them in an open pocket that can be accessed by anyone around you.

Why? So unwanted people don't access it.
Same with a computer.

If you have no problem with the police having unwarranted access to all your computer information, including your bank accounts and financial accounts online;
then you shouldn't have a problem with allowing any random policeman into your house and scouring your wallets any time they please without your consent.

If you don't realize it's the same thing by this point, you are one dumb motherfucker.

No you don't.

If you own nothing that can be stolen, you have no fears and no problem!

Show me the proof that the police has interest or is reading my financial activities

While I 100% support privacy and FOSS, this is a shitty argument.
Doors are required for entering an leaving a household while being closable so it's less affected by outside temperature, and windows are useful too. The "remove locks" argument makes more sense.

Google drive is goat

is windows free?

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Police is made up of humans. Humans have ambitions, circumstances that force them to do things they usually wouldn't, and they vary.
Humans induce inherent corruption into every system, which is why Internal Affairs exists, yet it is also not infallible.
Where corruption exists, interest in using people exists.
If people make it easy to use them, a corrupt individual will use them.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2289722/Police-officer-stole-400-house-search-faces-return-prison-stealing-suspects-iPhone.html
bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20414000

belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/retired-police-officer-who-stole-22000-from-church-funds-is-jailed-35170686.html

belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/retired-police-officer-who-stole-22000-from-church-funds-is-jailed-35170686.html

miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article138194138.html

You are fine with these kinds of people having access to your finance and accounts?

theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/19/police-officer-found-700000-of-drugs-at-his-home-court-told-bradford-keith-boots

This pretty much.

Privacy allows for free exploration of ideas and opinions. The moment you know or even feel that someone might be watching you, you limit yourself, you censor yourself. Without privacy there is no true freedom of thought.

> their privacy
Black people should not have privacy?? What kind of racist shit is this?

But I'm reading your statement right now.

Do you have a point?

>Becasu its about you. Information about your habits and your safety. In both cases, having poor security put you at risk

at risk for what?

Your ideas are clearly against what you're criticizing and yet you weren't scared to post them

Not punishable at all, and in our society it's also an easily explained and generally accepted point of view. Not controversial in the slightest.

There are plenty of other thoughts and ideas I wouldn't feel so comfortable posting here.

My point was also more about exploration of new ideas, not so much stating the ones you already have.

Blaming imaginary CIA agents for your lack of imagination, got it

>CIA
>imagination

nobody's watching you manchild

You're the one acting like a manchild here lad. We were talking about privacy, and then you come in with your uninformed cretinous thoughts.

>using homosexuality in argumentation

Why not? Are you saying that homophobes don't exist?

It's counterproductive if you make this argument for people (normies) who (mostly) dislike homosexuals and their parades.
Within "The rules may change" you can make up any rule (like outlawing atheism), within the third reason, I'd like to see another community.

>normies who (mostly) dislike homosexuals
Most people are not insecure closet homos like yourself and are therefor fine with fags. You're projecting again.

Letting observation impede your performance is a weakness and needs to be purged.

You probably thought this sounded really smart when you said it in your head.

Not an argument.

Likewise.

Woosh

I rest my case.

There was never one to begin with.

My point exactly.

Why do you need to see my dick though?

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Not that guy, but you're making even less sense than before with that irrelevant gif.

Depends on what you have set up as your motivation.

You might be developing a new improvised explosive to use exclusively against unfortunate women.

Sure thing buddy

How about showing me a community that done something actually useful for society?

youtube.com/watch?v=m0PuqSMB8uU

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Oh, I would implant the device with my dick in her vagiaiker .I seen now, I guess you should watch my dick and count my strokes and watch my anus contract when I cum and all that.

>How about showing me
What makes you think anybody is interested in convincing a mouthbreathing illiterate like yourself of anything? Illusions of grandeur again?

privacy prevents people from taking advantage of you

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How about making your argument grounded, not theoretical?
>Society laws and norms must be broken, we don't lynch negros and homos today

Illusions of grandeur confirmed.

Keep counting!
Estimate the volume of my cum load, and how much liquid was lost in the cum steam.
Plot the height of my balls from watching the first porn flick to the end. Make a nice graph.
Keep doing it and pile up the percentages.

because you're a twisted sicko, otherwise you're fine

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Who needs privacy, right?!

Saying = good
Hiding = bad

That's the difference.

>helping him to come up with something
>lol, you're entitled
I still consider homo argument as a bad one because those activists only fractured our society. Writing about negro slaves escaping from south america would be better.

No continue, I'm enjoying the show.

I'll tell you why

Because browsing this shithole exposes you to statistically coming up to some faggot posting an image he shouldn't in a random thread. That image is then cached so the browser doesn't have to re-download it.

How is that bad? It usually isn't, unless stuff like this exists en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhotoDNA , in which case your innocent and accidental mouseover of the image now results into your statistical chance of being imprisoned within your lifetime multiplying. Nothing was prevented, no children saved, no criminals imprisoned - just you, an innocent random guy who forgot to block telemetry. And that's just pictures, don't forget all the other stuff like clicking that one google link or having shit like this wired.com/2017/02/googles-troll-fighting-ai-now-belongs-world/ crawl your forum and associate your IP with the stuff you ironically shatposted. Good luck explaining what ironic shitposting is in court.

Agreeing to something like that which puts you to a potential harm because "lol idc haha?" is the most retarded thing one can do. Yes, it's highly unlikely *now*, but 1) it will exponentially become more and more likely with every next surveillance stunt and 2) it wasn't even likely in the past, why the fuck do you agree with it being "unlikely" in the first place?

And again, that's just the infancy of it with the slow computers we currently have, imagine what a fucking hell it can become when deep learning improves.

because if you disagree with national policy, you can be arrested for it vs organizing a counter movement.
see: everyone that's gotten in legal trouble for islamaphobia on social media.

it's not about your laotian animated pictures, it's about disagreeing with the people that watch you.

Here's your tin-foil hat sir, oh and don't forget your pills, the schizophrenia kicks in every once in a while hehe.

Americans don't like being told they can't.
Just dual boot if your into AAA titles.
Every game I want to play works with wine.

Nobody has gotten in legal trouble over expressing non-violent ideas toward certain people and if they do that definitely flies under the "got something to hide" category.

The fact that you can't see the similarities between the two and decide to reject one because you're a closetfag homophobe even though the example is perfectly fine in the context of the argument just shows what a moron you are, and why anyone should be unwilling to waste time convincing you.

>decide to reject one because you're a closetfag homophobe
Thats exactly what I told in the first place. You're going to refer to people who unironically believe in "You have nothing to hide argument", why you can't come up with something that doesn't make you look like SJW?

>people literally risk their lives to leak the fact that you're actually actively getting datamined
>look how smart I am by not considering anything at all and having the flattest thought process possible hehe at least I'm not a schizo lol rekt :^P

Yea, check see If I was careful when shaving my balls and count the ugly nappy long hairs that got unshaven. Get an odor sensor in there and check see how my cock smells(feel free to do a graph with the progression of my cocks smells over time) and if beneath my phimosis it might be hiding some cheese and when I try to become mayor of my shitty small town bring all that issue in the local paper.
Get a fruit fly sized drone with a chemical sensor to check the salinity of my balls b4 and after I beat my meat. Get another drone to hover around the wasted life juice and do a sperm count to see if watching too many anime makes one infertile.
Check the power thrust of my farts by interpreting sound patterns.(feel free to keep track and do a report + graph over the years)
Who needs privacy, right?!

>why you can't come up with something
I can, but there's no point, why should I adjust anything in order to try convince the bottom of the barrel? People like you are mindless morons, I could convince you today, but if tomorrow someone shows you something shiny you'll be convinced of something else, like the drooling retard you are. It would be a waste of time and energy to convince you of literally anything. Nobody cares about opinions of idiots. I'm already getting tired of explaining why it's pointless explaining anything to people like you! Have your silly opinion, boo homo's! boo SJW! good for you lad, ignorance is bliss, have fun.

Both arguments are fine in the context. But you have to take a guess which one people will like more - about homos who try to get more rights for themselves because of "equality" or history approved escape of slaves to their freedom?

I'm the one who posted that picture and I would like to respond. Whenever I post that picture, the discussion goes to the topic of homophobia and homosexuality, while other arguments for caring about privacy as a human don't get discussed or get ignored altogether. I would also have to agree with Glenn Greenwald on the topic of surveillance and his opinion that it creates a prison in the mind of an individual.
youtu.be/pcSlowAhvUk

As a human need*

>which one people will like more
If someone rejects a perfectly logical argument because he doesn't "like" an example used, that person should be ignored.

If you're going to try to please everybody by using examples they like (in other words, doesn't trigger them, who's the SJW again?) you might as well stop now. Ignore the snowflakes and their petty opinions.

I'd have to ignore most of people then. How could I make a change without most people supporting me?
Because other arguments are easily understandable. And not controvercial. Thats why I suggested using something else. Everybody gets it that you lock door for a reason or something may suddenly be outlawed (reverse engineering made illegal because reasons will lead to people losing their interesting hobbies and slow progress).

Because I don't trust the government. They could lock me up on the basis of things that have nothing to do with ethics. Just because something is illegal does not make it unethical. Just because the law grants the government certain powers (like indefinite detention of US citizens without a trial) does not mean it is ethical for them to use those powers.

Now fuck off you piece of shit federal agent.

>controvercial
controversial*

It's like all books and films with utopian on the outside but dystopian on the inside regimes passed over your head.

>I'd have to ignore most of people then.
Exactly.

>How could I make a change without most people supporting me?
You don't. Or you throw away your credibility among literate people and turn populist. It all depends, do you want to be right, or do you want to be popular? You have to pick, unfortunately.

>getting triggered over data mining
You should go to a psych ward

99% of the "I've got nothing to hide" people would be calling the police within 5 minutes of a stranger following them around in the real world recording everything they did and said.

Other way around. Why should I trust strangers?