Clearly someone is sucking Lennart's cock. Meanwhile, I'm still using 51.0.1 and blocking updates, but in a month or two my addons will start to break.
Please recommend me a good replacement, Sup Forums. If it can run firefox addons, that'd be better. But I'd be fine as long as it supports something similar to: - Classic Theme Restorer (GTK2 theme support, squared tabs) - cliget (get a wget command with headers and stuff instead of downloading from the browser, to be able to throttle speed and stuff) - Flash Video Downloader (auto-detect flash video links to DDL them) - Greasemonkey (userscripts) - uMatrix (being able to turn on and off cookies, css, images, plugins, javascript, ajax requests, frames and media on the fly, per site, per source domain) - Kitsune (japanese IME) - Rikaichan (japanese to english dictionary)
Can I get something similar in, say, Vivaldi or Chromium? Pic related. Insert bloat joke here.
No you most likely can't find replacements for all addons that you listed -- that's exactly why Mozilla's gimping of Firefox is such a tragedy.
You probably find something like cliget anf uMatrix for WebKit based browsers.
You could also just start using PulseAudio instead,
Jacob Rodriguez
*can't find
Jonathan Campbell
Palemoon
Gavin Thomas
Well, I mean, I did try Palemoon if it counts.
Addons detect it as Firefox 27 though, so, yeah.
>You could also just start using PulseAudio instead, Not an option. Puppy user.
>You probably [can't] find something like cliget [and] uMatrix for WebKit based browsers. Fuck.
Nope.
Again, addons detect it as Firefox 27, so I'm better off using my 51.0.1 for now.
Logan Long
Waterfox maybe? Seamokey?
Samuel Sanchez
use waterfox you baka
Kevin Miller
Why is it impossible as a Puppy user? And if your distro doesn't ship with such recent and basically universal software, maybe a different one would serve your interests better?
Jonathan Miller
The Firefox devs always come across as incredibly arrogant. There's no discussion to be had on any decision they make, because they discussed it within their own little circlejerk and decided that it was for the best, so deal with it.
Nathaniel Jenkins
Downloading it out right now. Thanks.
>Why is it impossible as a Puppy user? Because it's a light livecd that runs from RAM.
Pulse hogs RAM like there's no tomorrow. Not to mention instability and PRISM-related issues.
Noah Gutierrez
i believe you can also use your firefox config for waterfox but i have never tried, do it yourself
Cameron Bailey
Sounds cool.
It's downloading slowly though (at about 70k/s) so I'll test it out in about 10 minutes, when it's done.
From the description on the site, it looks fantastic >Waterfox focuses on giving users choice while also helping make the world a better place. Watefox is partners with Ecosia, a search engine that plants trees with its generated revenues. The browser itself is focused on power users, which lets you make the important decisions. There is no plugin whitelist, you can run whichever extensions you like and absolutely no data or telemetry is sent back to Mozilla or the Waterfox project. Don't give a shit about the search engine thing (I'll still use startpage), but other than that, it sounds fantastic. Hopefully it will be.
Camden Murphy
> PRISM-related issues What do you mean by this? Is this another way of saying botnet?
Ryan Harris
Kinda.
Not google botnet like Chrome. NSA botnet as revealed by Snowden.
John Hughes
And PulseAudio was mentioned in some way? I didn't know that, do you have any sources on that maybe?
Ryan Carter
...
Austin Lopez
It's old as fuck news, so I can't give you any sources without googling for a while. But yeah, it was mentioned. RedHat is very much involved, and Lennart is helming.
But long story short, pulse has a backdoor that lets them turn on your microphone without you noticing.
Robert Powell
Ah huh, I guess I'll read up on that, not that I ever lead interesting conversations with myself (my microphone also has as physical mute button). Thanks!
Sebastian Allen
Dammit. Looks like Waterfox is a no go either.
I downloaded waterfox-52.0.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2, and assumed the "x86" referred to i386/i686. Looks like it only supports 64 bits though, and Puppy is a 32 bit system. I'm getting the good old >bash: ./waterfox: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
Fuck my life.
Thomas Wright
Seamonkey builds should be 32-bits by default
Easton Bell
Has anyone got troubles with firefox 52 and no sound, despite running Ubuntu, which has pulseaudio installed by default?
Cameron Gonzalez
Trying it out then. Thanks.
Low expectations though, because Debian Women bent the knee to Lennart when the whole systemd thing happened. But still, checking it out. Thanks.
I'm also downloading Vivaldi just to check it out.
The ubuntu forums were full of that a couple of days ago.
Andrew Cooper
Wait. No. Sorry.
I confused seamonkey with icecat. The Debian reference makes no sense.
52.0.1 comes with a security-bugfix. do you consider sound on leenox to be as important as a security-bug?
Jonathan Baker
>> Regrettably, I have almost a dozen machines all with ALSA-only audio >> backends and all of them with Telemetry turned off.
>Telemetry informs our decisions. Turning it off is not without disadvantage.
Leenox-tinfoilhat-fags btfo
Brandon Carter
i mean security bug fixes wont let me hear my moaning lolis would it
Bentley Carter
Neither Seamonkey nor Icecat is related to Debian, you are confusing them with Iceweasel. Iceweael is dead btw, Debian switched back to using vanilla Firefox branding.
Cooper Miller
>do you consider sound on leenox to be as important as a security-bug? I don't.
That's why I'm looking for an alternative. I don't want to keep on using 51.0.1, mainly because my addons will break eventually, but of course, also due to security bugs.
Lincoln Morales
>no umatrix on webkit wrong
Jayden Wright
>run a black GTK2 theme >and a Sup Forums theme I modified myself from Tomorrow to make even darker >with the lights off >test out Vivaldi while Seamonkey downloads MY FUCKING EYES
Xavier Wood
>Sucking Poettering's cock You mean, nobody is fixing the alsa backend? While pulse just /werks/? Want to volunteer faggot?
Landon Scott
>Classic Theme Restorer Chromium doesn't need this because it already looks good >cliget (get a wget command with headers and stuff) This is built into the chromium dev tools >Flash Video Downloader Flash is dead. Use youtube-dl if you really need it. >Greasemonkey Chromium natively supports userscripts. >uMatrix Available (and originally developed) for chromium >Kitsune (japanese IME) Your OS should handle this >Rikaichan (japanese to english dictionary) You should not be trying to merge this functionality into your web browser. It has nothing to do with web browsing.
Elijah Price
They even left in the ALSA support they just left it behind a build option. If a distro needs it they can built firefox with it but it may not work because no one wants to work on it
Luke Hernandez
Just use ESR 45 till june you plebeian.
Daniel Carter
I can't trust chromium after the blackbox incident.
Daniel King
>Chromium doesn't need this because it already looks good As long as it takes my GTK2 theme, and hopefully has square tabs, I don't care.
>Flash is dead. Use youtube-dl if you really need it. Sometimes, you just want to watch Counting Cars. No simpler way than shitty streaming sites like *watchseries.*, detect the video source, and parse it to mpv.
>Your OS should handle this Kitsune is comfier than anthy.
>You should not be trying to merge this functionality into your web browser. It has nothing to do with web browsing. Actually, I know this was ported to chromium as Rikaikun.
I can just use 50.0.1 'til june. More up-to-date addons supported.
But I'd rather just migrate 'til/if they fix that shit.
Details?
Charles Walker
>As long as it takes my GTK2 theme It won't >and hopefully has square tabs The angles are sharp, but the taps are trapezoidal, not square.
>Sometimes, you just want to watch Counting Cars You can do that >No simpler way than shitty streaming sites like *watchseries.*, detect the video source, and parse it to mpv. Or you could just do "mpv " because mpv has youtube-dl integration and can extract video from any website youtube-dl supports.
>Actually, I know this was ported to chromium as Rikaikun. That doesn't change the fact that it's outside the scope of a browser, and you should find a dedicated tool for it to save you from problems
Jose Thompson
Just tried greasemonkey.
Same problem as Palemoon.
Alexander Martin
Basically debian discovered a binary blob in chromium being secretly downloaded that can listen to voice. It's been removed, but the trust is broken for me.
>Or you could just do "mpv " because mpv has youtube-dl integration and can extract video from any website youtube-dl supports. And shitty streaming sites like *watchseries.* are not supported by youtube-dl.
I do use it a lot though. For stuff like playlists whenever I want to output audio to my mono amp and blast it, because you can downmix to mono on the fly with mpv.
Jackson Evans
>x86_64 how did you miss the _64?
Jordan Martin
x64 is an extension of x86 hence the name x86_64.
Dominic Price
>that can listen to voice You people are retarded. It wasn't an executable doing unknown things on your system or listening to you. It was a binary collection of non-executable voice data that was parsed by the open source speech recognition engine to improve accuracy.
binary != executable
Grayson Hughes
i didn't ask why it's called that
Nathaniel Allen
Good old PRISM.
You should read Assange's When Google Met Wikileaks. And then remember Schmidt is a big-time democrat donor.
I thought x86_64 meant it supported both *86 and 64. I thought that's why it weighed almost 100MB while Firefox/chromium/vivaldi/palemoon/greasemonkey are under 50.
It's a real shame, because it looks like it's the best option ITT, except it doesn't run on i386/i686.
Landon Young
Oh yes goy, it wasn't an executable, no reason to be suspicious.
Noah Garcia
one of the main selling points of waterfox is that it's 64bit, they were making 64bit windows builds before mozilla started to
Adam Thompson
>A proprietary blob being downloaded without your permission that responded to voice wasn't spying on you and it was merely just to improve accuracy and not collect data
Ayden Turner
Sure thing, officer.
>The issue first came to light in late May when a bug was filed in the Debian bug tracker. Chromium version 43 was seen downloading a binary extension from Google, and there was neither any ability to prevent this download, nor any source code available for the extension. The extension, called "Chrome Hotword," was found to be responsible for providing the browser's "OK, Google" functionality. Although off by default, both Chrome and Chromium, when set to use Google as their default search engine, can permanently listen to the microphone and respond instantly to voice queries, with "OK Google" used as the trigger keyword.
>Concern about the nature and purpose of the extension was compounded by the way the browser did and didn't disclose the extension's existence. The list of extensions visible at chrome://extensions/ doesn't include Hotword. Conversely, Hotword's own status page, chrome://voicesearch/ said that by default the extension was enabled and had access to the microphone.
>This looked like an egregious privacy violation; Google silently installing software that listens in to the microphone (and potentially reports back everything it hears to the mothership), and doing so not only in its partially closed source Chrome browser, but the free and open Chromium browser. The extension is supposed to detect the "OK Google" phrase locally, sending only search phrases to Google, but as no source code is available, there's no easy way to determine this. Other trigger phrases could be included that start transmission, and nobody outside Google would be any the wiser.
William Sanchez
Right. But if their thing is, quoting , >giving users choice an i686 build would get them closer to that goal.
Blake Evans
is greasemonkey your only problem with palemoon? cehck ccd0's 4chanx github and go read some
...They don't list them as incompatible either, so you won't know without trying ...
Anthony Lopez
I guess you're right.
Tyler Nelson
> The addons recognize palemoon as FF27, so I can't install anything newer than a couple of years ago. You know that you can define version range in xpi itself, right? And, most times, it will just work oob, without editing anything else.
Gabriel Campbell
I've had firefox addons work on seamonkey without problems despite it saying it's not compatible.
Gabriel Cook
How can anyone be THIS autistic?
Aaron Flores
why not run Flux, you can par your monitors blue light levels down and shit user.
No need to turn your eyeballs into boiling balls of flash-detonated plasma.
Brayden Gomez
Palemoon is probably your best hope OP.
Leo Gray
>update waterfox >now non highlited tabs have this shitty white glow
Just why? Fuck off literally can't read this shit.
Joseph Lopez
Actually, it was.
REPORTING: I copied the contents of my ~/.mozilla/firefox/random.folder/ to ~/.moonchild productions/pale moon/random.folder
Everything appears to be working on palemoon. The about:addons page throws an "[Addon] is incompatible with Palemoon 27.1.2" warning on top of every addon, but they're working nonetheless. Greasemonkey is running fine. Rikaichan is running fine. Kitsune too. And uMatrix.
Haven't tested cliget and Flash Video Downloader, but everything points out to them working. Worst case scenario, I can roll back to the versions that worked on FF27.
The only one that didn't work was Classic Theme Restorer, but that's a given because Palemoon isn't running Australis, and thus it's running my GTK2 theme without the need for it.
Thanks for the help, Sup Forums. If anyone else asks (and I bet many will in the following weeks), point them to this post.
Kevin Walker
This is what you get for using your bleeding-edge rolling-release stuff instead of just sitting back on ESR and not worrying about it.
Isaac Bailey
theres also an alternative addon list thing in the palemoon website so use that as you will
James Collins
Rikaichan not only doesn't work with e10s but it's going to unusable all together now? Great.
Parker Richardson
I mean, it will work. You just won't have any audio unless you bend the knee to pulse.
Isaiah Gonzalez
Works fine here and I'm on 52 on arch with an alsa only system. Just realised I'm using 54 bit FF though, which probablly explains why it's so generally fucking shit anyway.
Ethan Perry
I want to suck their puffy nipples
Jason Myers
>let me see if someone has also noticed this and found a solution after I've googled around and found nothing >not part of a Sup Forumsentooman's research Please go sodomize yourself
captcha: please find some signs in these 9000 pictures of signs
Brandon Howard
>whats a browser that fulfills all of my criteria Sup Forums >pls spoonfeed
Adam Baker
None of the critical issues patched since 51 are bad enough to warrant an update that breaks sound.
Bentley King
I really hope qutebrower will support uMatrix soon
Waterfox is pretty nice. It's basically Firefox x64 with unsigned extensions, any plugin, and no telemetry crap. Dev wants to keep XUL support too so it will be better than Firefox past 57.
Nathaniel Lewis
Isn't that why there are so many forks though?
Mozilla: "We concluded that this is better." User Base A: "Well that's fucking stupid, why would you force that on us, here is the fork that lets us keep doing that thing"
Sebastian Hill
There was discussion, they even looked at the telemetry data from linux before deciding on this. The telemetry data showed that like ~4% of the people on linux use ALSA directly. It was low enough that the devs believed it was an unneeded burden on themselves. The option to use ALSA is still available but you have to compile firefox from source. They're deliberately leaving the option in rather than completely removing it because they want someone to take it over. Mozilla is sick of having to fix it themselves which they see as redundant because PA already works
Josiah Collins
why would addons start to break if you don´t update? i don´t know of any that would require a new firefox version to work especially seeing how firefox is going to throw them out anyways
Angel Ramirez
>PA already works
Nathan Kelly
This sounds pretty made up and I couldn't find anything about it
Blake Martin
>telemetry >implying any user who refuses to use Pulse would leave telemetry on Officer pls.
Kevin Ross
Who the fuck is still using 32bit? Update man!
Luis Rogers
No Chromium looks like a hot mess of shit. Can't customize it either. Fuck off shrill material is retarded
Kayden White
The paranoid fags screwed themselves then because that's how they determine whether something is worth maintaining.
Ryder Perry
>post-Snowden world >"paranoid fags" Am I being detained?
The NSA think they can fuck me, but I'm going to fuck them up hard. Just you wait, I'm going to win.
Joseph Cox
No CIA nigger, its not paranoia if they are really after you.
Eli Clark
Thanks. I was getting some strange issues after copying the contents of the firefox profile to the palemoon profile (ie preferences not opening), so I'm installing them by hand right now. I'll use that greasemonkey.
Jack Rivera
I'm still on FF 49. Why should I update? What fucking reason is there to update?
James James
>my current browser is full of security holes. Why should I update?
