Be fullstack dev

>be fullstack dev
>be financing my own shit with short terms contract work
>after weeks of BS posting finally see a raw JS contract
>apply online, asked to do a tech test
>nail the test, invited for interview
>user, how do you feel how JS frameworks
>nope.jpg
>ah well sorry user, but this is going to be a [insert meme framework] project
>b-b-but you specified raw JS in the job posting
>yeah sorry user, we can't find any good dev that know [insert meme framework]
>so we are looking for good raw JS dev like you to learn [insert meme framework] and help us with our project
>but that's exactly why I'm good, it's because I don't use frameworks, also this is a 2 months contact
>yes user, but it could be extended
>look, I applied to a raw JS contract of 2 months, not a 12 months contact with [insert meme framework]
>s-s-sorry user we will update the job posting, we have such a hard time getting good dev that know [insert meme framework

>not using frameworks means i'm good!!!
perhaps you should consider a different field

OP here, I will ignore ad hominem, baits and baby first posts like from now on.

>f-frameworks are bad i don't n-need to explain this!
>my code doesn't NEED to be elegant and maintainable, it's short and fast which is all that matters!

You're basically no better than those C zealots who insist on implementing everything themselves instead of using libraries.

>frameworks
>maintainable
you obviously never tried angular

libs != frameworks

Explain why you hate frameworks so much.

Didn't imagine I would see the day when Sup Forums defends bloat. Get out here you retards. You are against the spirit of Sup Forums.

/g is turning into a 100% troll board where there is no tech discussion anymore

developer time is cheap, computing time is not

it's 1978 anymore gramps

see

One of the most frustrating job application processes I've gone trough:
>Job posting for software QA specialist (I had just graduated and the worker pool had recently been saturated with people with way more experience than me so fuck off)
>Get sent a programming assignment
>Ace it
>Get send a webcam interview
>At least I think that I did well
>Get invited to an in-person interview
>Goes pretty well and we go trough my solution to the programming assignment, which they say is the by far most efficient one and over all best, together
>2 weeks later get an email telling me that I didn't get hired because they were looking for more of a "coder" type applicant
In hindsight I may have dodged a bullet there as I got the impression they were probably going to lowball me on my wage and offer me a wage more akin to a job doing manual labor.

define meme framework please

You are the reason internet is shit for the most part today. And you're trying to parasitize on Sup Forums now? Get out of here.

>JS frameworks
>elegant and maintainable
Oh i'm laffing

>not using typescript

That post actually agrees with you.
You're so embittered that you're just looking to pick a fight with anyone, fucking loser.

Go write some more vanilla JS, maybe in a few months you'll accomplish what some teenager can do by installing wordpress and adding a theme.

>comparing a scripting language with a blog engine

Anything that Is/was "made with

Having recently been in the job market my guess would be that it's most probably Node.js as there seems to be rather huge demand for it. I even ended up learning how to do some pretty basic stuff with it for one job interview process that ultimately went nowhere (sent in the assignment, had the recruitment company get back to me 3 weeks later asking for a dropbox link as my solution somehow ran into an email spam filter somewhere and then going silent for a month and contacting me only to apologise for the delay and tell me that it's still going to be a few weeks before the interviews begin).

Then again it could also be React, jQuery or AngularJS as there's an absolutely bewildering amount of javascript frameworks out there actually being used...

>comparing javascript to a language
anything other than javascript is to language as javascript is to those noises that autistic people make when they're frustrated

>frameworks
>in js
Ahahahahaha that is so good.
Like jquery and the toggle(). I mean, I can do this in one line instead of loading like 1000 lines of code of js. There really is a difference if you write just on line containing 6 words or using a like what 200kb big file.
>inb4 muh filesize.
>inb4 ">inb4 loading time"
No fucking arguments because your mom said so.

>I have poor reading skills, the post

>js frameworks
>elegant and maintainable
lmao

jQuery is a lib, not a framework

>implying this whole thread
11 Posters and one fucknut tries to defend js-frameworks and brings up wordpress for some unknown reason

>coding with a smoke and mirror pseudo language that will down compile to ES5 JS in the end

...

Ah right, my bad. Anyways, fuck the libs too.

>t. brainlet who never wrote anything of substance in his life
Let me see you write up a widget that lets the user pick a date from a calendar in plain javascript.

But that's easy user is you are good in raw JS

Can you write it in 10 seconds? Because that's how long it takes for me to import one from my framework.

Next time just copy the exact skills listed on your resume. And when they ask if you've used it, say you're a pro. Then cram to learn it in the days before you start.

Wow, you are a flaming pussy. Much like your autistic need to not learn a framework.

Who cares? You said it yourself it's 2 months and you're done. Drop it and never use it again.

Which Framework are you talking about?

>developer time is cheap, computing time is not.

If that is your argument, then you've already lost in the real world. You can not "create" anything yourself, as it seems. You can only copy and activate.

. less than 10 seconds.
For reals though, it might take me 10 minutes to write one from scratch but it will take me 10 seconds to fix it if it breaks. When yours breaks you're stuck tracking down a bug for a fucking calendar widget for 2 days because its a needle in a haystack of bloat and you only know how to import 'widgets'.

Good thing right here. It doesn't even use js at all.

I hope you don't use any standard library functions, nerd.

>implying that any of the existing date range pickers are good enough

no external libs, that is for sure.
You're mad as fuck dude. This is like you were argumenting how good it is to wipe with tissue instead of toilet paper and then after getting called out saying things like "I bet you don't even use just your hand to clean your ass". lmao
Here have some anime character, so that you can find at least something to disregard this post.

I've already written it once in raw JS and reuse all the time in 10 sec, yes. I didn't need a framework then and don't need now.