WHY DO "ENTRY LEVEL" DESKTOP SUPPORT / HELP DESK JOBS REQUIRE
>4 year degree >3-5 years of experience in the same job
EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE LISTED AS ENTRY LEVEL/JUNIOR LEVEL POSITIONS
THIS IS BULLSHIT.
I LIVE IN NYC AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF JOB LISTINGS BUT NONE ARE ACTUALLY ENTRY LEVEL
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO.
Ive tried Internships.com, Indeed, Dice, Craigslist, and even asked friends that are currently in an IT company. There are LITERALLY no ways to get experience.
>There are LITERALLY no ways to get experience. Internships and startups. Make one if you need to.
John Watson
Stop being scared off by lol-worthy job reqiurements, OP. Submit your application anyway.
Learn what HR is and what it does.
Fucking pussy.
Zachary Ortiz
just apply anyway
they'll hire you anyway if they dont find anyone else
Connor Hill
Explain
Lucas Young
This.
My current job wanted 5+ years experience, background with software I had never used, and several other things I didn't have. Still got it, and do a better job than the guy before me who was there 6 years.
Eli Peterson
i do regardless. I even contacted a recruiter who told me the only open position for me is in Jersey but thats 4 hour commute both ways.
>startups require experience in NYC
Nathaniel Baker
>tfw worked at helpdesk for a year >moving to network/infrastructure in a few months feels good
Lucas Stewart
>not having a 4 year degree and 3-5 years of experience in the same job >being this pleb tier
Joseph Gray
agreed, I have no degree but wormed my way into a network engineer position.
get gud
Elijah Brooks
Those lofty requirements are meant to scare off the meek. A confident future-asset for the company would apply anyway, simply because he loves the work.
Eli Phillips
Explain what? HR just throws shit on a wall and sees what sticks when they post IT job listings. Odds are you won't have at 25% of their listed "requirements", but you apply anyway.
Brandon Hughes
No, a confident future-asset for the company (key words: FUTURE-ASSET) would apply anyway, simply because he MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS.
Cameron Campbell
HR Departments are terrible places filled with horrible people. If you ever meet somebody who works in HR and they seem nice, do not trust them. They also have no idea what skills are actually needed for a given job. Apply for things even if you don't fit the requirements. If you have the capability just network and get a job based on a personal recommendation. If you're an asocial fuck-nugget like me just keep applying.
Landon Barnes
>dude just apply anyway >HR literally throws away any resume that doesnt have X amount of experience
t. I used to work in HR
We pretty much only check for previous experience.
Adam Jones
They do this for hb-1 visa reqs; this way they can say "see! We couldn't find anyone to meet our requirements, give us cheap indians!"
Benjamin Hernandez
How do I lie about prior experience
Owen Bailey
If you have the same level of knowledge as would be achievable through prior experience, fabricate stories of prior experience consistent with that knowledge.
YOU used to work in HR. Not all workplaces are like that.
OP, you literally have nothing to lose by applying to these places anyway. Worse case Ontario, you end up where you're at now and can at least say you tried.
Do what everyone in the thread is saying and stop being ridiculed by HR bogus.
Josiah Jackson
So like a fake project?
Mason Gomez
>tfw I can't even get hired at McDonald's because I was a NEET for 5 years
Consider yourself lucky OP at least you won't get kicked out of your apartment
Anthony Smith
>throws away resume baka
>not using that info to decrypt their online accounts and such
Cameron Gutierrez
Ask friends to act as your references for the bullshit experience you put down on your resume.
If you have no friends, don't worry, there are people on CL who will gladly provide references for cheap.
Benjamin Martin
NOT TECHNOLOGY
Charles Adams
HR throws away half the applications either way before even looking at them. Nobody wants to work with people that are shit out of luck.
Carson Sanchez
I used to work HR as well.
We'd get a few 100 applications every job posting we'd put up.
We literally just randomly picked from the stack until someone met the requirements.
Gabriel Murphy
Reddit-tier humour senpai
Jack Lewis
Apply for the job anyway just as everyone else says. But along with that work on people's PCs and use that experience. In your cover letter explain what you've done in your free time fixing PCs and give a very brief story of a time you overcame a challenging incident. (Like a virus that was too good at staying in the system, or a difficult to diagnose problem).
Also if you have the means consider getting a cert of some kind. CCENT (if that's still around) is easy enough and looks professional.
We've all been entry level at some point, best of luck user.
Ryder Jenkins
It was actually pretty good. Kill yourself.
Lucas Garcia
Another option you can do is put your resume up on indeed and companies will contact you.
I started doing this about 3 weeks ago and I got like 4 companies wanting to interview me.
Ryder Powell
no u
Matthew Robinson
Just get a warehouse job. You don't even need a resume just fill out an application.
>CCENT (if that's still around) is easy enough and looks professional. Entry level IT only requires A+ and experience with windows' office applications, printers, and OSX. Know how to fix fatfingered configs in excel, word & outlook? You're a hero, because no one is going to expect or let a green help desk guy configure network infrastructure.
Jordan Thomas
what do you mean by green
Matthew Young
networking with your prof, and through job fairs an sponsored internships is the only legit reason to go to a reputable college to lean i.t. related shit
Adrian Martin
ive done this. Its all door to door sales. Even when stating IT only.
David James
I bet you didn't sort yourself out, sunshine there's nothing uglier than an unemployed man women want to tear them apart.
Oliver Hall
>Network Engineer for some ISP as first job
Get Schrekt OP.
Joseph Thomas
>tfw don't want to apply to jobs that required work experience because I always end up imagining people getting angry at me for wasting their time
Hudson Wood
>as a kid always wonder why most adults are such huge fucking assholes >learn it's because you have to lie and cheat and bullshit your way into a shitty entry level job that a trained gorilla could do
Christopher Evans
pay more attention to the starting salary, listed requirements are often completely retarded 5 YEARS MSSQL EXPERIENCE $8/HR
Jayden Cox
join the military faggot.
Kayden Adams
>the only open position for me is in Jersey but that's 4 hour commute both ways So if you get the job, move.
Christian Walker
> Tier 1 and 2 tech support > government-run tertiary education > literally no relevant degree > literally no experience in a corporate environment > everything is self-taught, which isn't that much > still got the job over someone who was WAY more experienced because 'it's a client-based role, and you seemed to be more focused on helping whoever called you, you were friendlier. we can teach you whatever you don't currently know anyway'.
Just gotta go for it dude
Connor Howard
He means a PFY
Jayden Price
try to go for a IT call center job to get some experience. Then after a year start applying for desktop support jobs. Call centers are horrible, but hey its a start. Two years going through two jobs in IT call center. Then I got a desktop support job making a bit more money with better benefits, been a little over six months now. I do have a bachelors though, probably helped. It's IT though, it doesn't really matter, just get a cert or two.
Ian Peterson
green means inexperienced
Easton Morales
You only looked for previous experience. Everything else got binned. Then answer me this.... did your company also put up adds that said "entry level"? Because that would be retarded, as OP said. I suppose they do this to keep costs down?
Jordan Thomas
Stop applying for jobs in one of the most saturated cities in the world. Look at developing economies, compare their average wages and the quality of life/value of your money in that area. Stop wasting your time on Jew York.
David Miller
this
Carter Taylor
I want to be you. I'll be done with Cisco in about a year, what did you do? IBM has a NOC not far from me and they were hiring recently. They only wanted a CS degree or relevant Certs like CCNA, figured I'd aim for something like that when I finish.
Jonathan Lewis
Welcome to New York City.
Oliver Watson
"Entry level" means "entry into our company" level. NOT "entry into this industry" level
Logan Sanders
That means EVERY job that's listed on CL or whatever. Derp.