What do people here use for home servers?
I can't decide what to buy. I'm torn between going for a cheap little micro server:
ebuyer.com
Or just saying fuck it and buying a blade (and then never having another good night sleep again ever):
dell.com
Is doing a custom build worth the effort?
Forgot to say that all I really want it for is file storage and using as a torrent box with rtorrent + rutorrent.
Are you gonna use it to store porn, you filthy homo!?
I've had problems with the slightly older proliants where the bios wouldn't recognize any windoze os newer than server 2008. It worked fine with leenux though. The proliants we have at work are a backup domain controller and a finance software server. They seem to OK for a cheap little server. The proliants and blades are limited on upgrading options, but who cares, it's a cheap server that works.
Yeah that would wouldn't be a problem for me as I'll just be using linux on it for the NFS.
How's the performance on them generally, can they handle what you throw at them without locking up or sounding like an aircraft taking off?
Do you even know what a blade is?
Because that Dell is a standard 1U rack server.
Black is pic related and you have to have an enclosure for it to do anything, since it lacks its own power supply (among other things).
Anyway, don't get a server unless you have a separate room to put it in. Those things are meant for data centers and are therefore loud as fuck.
The Microserver being an obvious exception, because it's a different use case.
But beware because from the price of that thing, it's going to have a Celeron inside of it. Pretty good for a home storage, but bad if you need performance.
>Black
I meant blade. Fuck me, I guess.
Anyway, if you only want it for torrenting, the Microserver will do.
Also yeah I meant rack server not blade.
i'd say just get a cheap full tower and old xeons off ebay. best multipurpose server for home.
I use a Thinkpad t430. Shit works great.
in that case just a rpi and an external drive.
rpi only has 100Mb ethernet and it shares bus with USB controller or some meme like that, so it would be pretty slow
Do you think an old PC with downclocked Phenom II X2 would be fine for home data storage? I would setup some RAID on it.
>having a jet engine loud server in your house to download torrents
you'll be able to hear that shit from anywhere in the house
fuck no
A pentium III would be find for home data storage.
Plex and archiving.
Not if you want encryption.
But even the cheapest Celerons come with AES instructions these days.
Great then. Now I'll jest need to get 6 HDDs for RAID6.
There isn't any (free) NAS system that would let me add another disk after initial setup, is there?
Why would you need to encrypt your home data?
The proliants are a single fan box with a small processor. It works fine for our office of about 30 people editing files and shit. I image it's more than OK for your needs.
My home file server is just an ATOM shitbox with software RAID and it kicks the snot out of those tiny home NAS boxes.
blade are jet engines, you will never sleep peacefully ever again
Do I pull the trigger then Sup Forums?
1, burglars getting your sensitive data
2, law enforcement getting your unauthorized copies
True, I received one blade server for free but it's just a monitor stand in my rack. fucking crazy jet engine thing.
WTF a 1U server just for torrenting?
MY SIDES
If you want reliable file storage + torrenting then and old desktop with a raid controller would be more than enough, or an old lap like (depending on various physical limitations), or old servers like propose.
But really, server class hardware for a torrentbox is way overkill, its like buying a tank just to do the groceries
>buy cheapest apu
>but hdds of your choice
>small ssd for os
>cheap case
>cheap mitx mobo
>cheap psu.
I think this is the best and cheapest option op.
I like it. New hardware with a warranty is nice. The drives are easy to swap compared to a shitty recycled tower like I have.
I use an ancient 32 bit e-machine. With a million USB ports. Works great for samba/ssh.
LOL I'm sure Jamal knows how to navigate your linux server and steal your tax return scans
>raid controller
it's not the 90s anymore, software RAID is a lot better than any consumer RAID controllers
I encrypt my shit as well only because of Jamal reason.
It's really not. The Microservers with Celeron are cheaper and you'll get a nice bonus in form of two 1Gb ethernets and iLO
Yeah, but Jamal is going to sell it sooner or later and I'm not taking my chances, especially when hardware-accelerated cryptography is everywhere these days.
> all I really want it for is file storage and using as a torrent box with rtorrent + rutorrent.
Just get a SoC like Raspberry Pi or Odroid or something. Easy and cheap.
>The Microservers with Celeron are cheaper
post one
Who says I won't be installing a virtualization environment on it and virtualizing my torrent environment etc.
literally the first link in this thread you retard
This rpi is absolute shit for a seedbox. Just don't.
if you want an actually good raid card, you can always get an older used enterprise grade raid card for cheap
I love my Pi boards but the flash cards get corrupted once in a while and they have limited network bandwidth. Neatest toys but nothing compared to a small business file server.
fuck meant for
Just make sure you can still get the BBU for the model you purchase. I made that mistake last year.
>buying a loud server meant for a data center and putting it in your basement
yes, but why invest when quality software raid is free on Linux and BSD, which you'd be using anyway because of the filesystems
Is the SSD for OS necessary?
That's the dream. Then you get yourself a nice rack for your basement and another few servers etc.
Just imagine all the porn you could store.
Why would I need a home server? I have nothing to hide nor am I secretary of state of the United States.
realistically no, but I'd definitely get one
>porn
>not remuxes of your favorite kinos
kys youserlf
rPi make very shitty file servers. The network and storage share the same bus. It's slow as fuck.
...
What the fuck? Do you think that anyone with a home server is a terrorist or something?
>Why would I need a home computer? I have nothing to hide nor am I secretary of state of the United States.
if you don't care about the money, just go for it man. Take advantage of the hardware to learn more stuff, don't just use it as a NAS and a torrent box, it's fucking overkill for that.
You get better hardware that interfaces with your hard drives on a proper raid card, also you get battery backup.
It's the most unnecessary thing you can get on a server.
Start-up times don't matter because you'd be rebooting it once a month tops, and the services like torrent client are loaded once on start-up and then continue running from RAM.
Throwing the money into a river would have more purpose than buying an SSD for a server.
Okay, thanks.
Either that or Rex Tillerson.
If anything keep the OS on a separate drive from everything else
It's going to turn into one of these threads
kek
Yeah, the battery is nice.
Yep, I fucked around with some IBM blade rig and I can attest to those things being hilariously loud. Each of the quad PSU's was cooled by a trio of the usual 40mm screamers, and the blades themselves were cooled by dual 840 watt blowers. It was interesting to fire up, at least it was incredibly capable at blasting loose paper and small objects clear across the room.
I considered attaching skateboard wheels to this 1U blade but the extension cord wouldn't get me very far.
>looking for drives for NAS
>2TB HGST drive for 60$
It seems to be wrong, weren't HGST drives more expensive? The exact model is HGST 0F12117, is there something wrong with it?
I have this for the same purpose (just need the itx case pictured).
C60M1-I integrated ITX board with 6 SATA ports.
PERC 5/i 8 port RAID card.
Chieftec drive bay with hot-swap support.
Found a relatively cheap chink ITX case to house just the board and expansion card and just route the SATA cables out the back to the separate drive bay.
Also need a picoPSU or a SFX one.
no case
20 wood screws
final destination
I've been debating buying a Gen8 for months now
Anyone know how much power it uses and how much noise it makes?
Electricity cost is the biggest concern, I know I could use an old tower but they use way more power than they need to for the job
a plebbit thread says 25-45 watts for these machines. That sounds about right depending on the load.
Between 20 and 30 watts idle according to heise/c't uplink show.
People use home servers to offload tasks form their laptops and main machines, like downloading, storage, backups and everything you dont want your primary machine to be doing because of portability or performance concerns. They should be low power and quiet because they will be running 24 hours a day.
Also, thats not a blade. In Enterprise, we call those density optimized servers (hence the HP DL line). You can fit 42 of those in a rack, but they are loud as fuck. good for CPU density but still relatively cheap. Unless you are space constrained and need 40 of those, this is not for you.
Blades are also meant for density, but they are much more expensive because of advanced features like virtualised networking plus more. They plug into a specialized 10unit Enclosure which is also expensive as fuck. This is definitely not what you are looking for.
You can go with the microserver or a proper Tower Server, which are also really good value for money because everything from the usual vendors is subsided as they expect to make money on the contracts.
HPE sell ML10 servers with Xeon quad cores for around the same price as the Xeon itself. Also comes with 8gb memory, 1tb drive etc. Go for this if you need more power and expansion .
Source: HPE engineer, 5 years.
I have RPi root on an SSD. Very easy to change. Makes the performance bearable (USB2 SSD is still better than an SD card) and removes the corruption issue.
Well I just bought the microssever, been debating what to get for an absolute age so at least I finally got something and I can finally stop using a laptop for a home server now.
I think you dun gud user. You can set it up and worry about more interesting things now.
I've got a semi decent setup in my garage, it's simply an old computer that I revamped into a server. It's main job is movies and tv. It automatically torrents all my shows as soon as they are released and moves everything into the correct locations, ready to be picked up by plex and ready to watch. It also sends a push notification to 4 people when we have something new to watch. It also does the normal stuff, ssh, ftp, smtp, back up, and security cameras. Don't even remember what's inside it, 8gig i5 maybe.
>It automatically torrents all my shows as soon as they are released
How do you do it, RSS?
>DL
>blades
lol no
Yep RSS feed into the torrent client. It check for an update every 5 minutes, so I get an episode as soon as it's out in 720p.
I don't watch porn. No need to when I live with my boyfriend.
>Torrenting
>He want a fucking server
If you're going to buy server, at least put it in a good use.
torrenting and other toy shit just get RPi or even dd-wrt with external hdd
I went on Craig's list and found a cheap Dell poweredge 840. Literally got it for $10.
disregard that, I lack reading comprehension
fag
>just get RPi
3rd world internet detected
it's pretty annoying to run a decent external drive too
rpi is shit unless you are a fucking casual
and at that point why do you even need a server for torrenting
how do you deal with deleted torrents that get trumped by a PROPER release shortly after the original episode was uploaded?
>Source: HPE engineer, 5 years.
I'm getting spun off into newco. Have fun HP bro.
This is pretty much exactly how I intend to use mine. currently I download the torrents via RSS on my desktop to the network location but I'm going to change that now to the server as I will have more space.
different user here, that's also how i had it setup when i actually had my server up and running
I bought an ivy bridge dell optiplex to use as a firewall, router and file storage from a guy on craigslist for $35. Popped in a couple hard drives, a tiny SSD and a cheapo 4 port NIC and it works great. No ECC but really solid other than that. Very quiet, 30-40W idle, and the shitty i3 is fast enough for my ezpz consumer grade bullshit.
Any alternative to WD reds?
The fucking prices are insane
HGST NAS drives, could be more expensive but they are faster
Seagate IronWolf
They got their shit together, or so I've heard.
>all I really want it for is file storage and using as a torrent box with rtorrent + rutorrent.
Look into numerous single board computers available on the market, pick the most powerful one you can afford and stuck a fuckhueg heatsink on the SoC. You won't have to worry about noise.
Forget about rbpi (as mentioned before) since it has terrible ethernet controller.
I think orangepi (the chink alternative) has a decent network controller.
>I think orangepi (the chink alternative) has a decent network controller.
It doesn't have sata
Banana does though
got a gen8 with a 1260l along with a few poweredge servers for pissing about with. the hp is miles better, low power,quiet and really good deal with that cashback.
only downside is no raid 5 on the inbuild raid controller, picky memory and limited upgradability. canni go wrong with that valuethough
>only downside is no raid 5 on the inbuild raid controller, picky memory and limited upgradability
So you can't use raid5 then or ?
nut, raid 0 or 1 only, and to use the odd sata port for an ssd you need to do some janky workarounds because on legacy sata mode it you cannot select boot order , it boots from the drive bay one and two only(odd is bay 5)
you can still do software raid pretty easy though so it's not the end of the world
Is it even worth using an SSD for any reason?
So you can have all 4 drive bays for data, can use it as caching and general snappy factor if you are ding other things with it like transcoding backups, good for image recovery, etc etc. all depnds on your own circumstances desu, if you are just running freenas or running a linux alternative you can just run the os off a usb drive
where did you get the plastic cover?
food tray from ikea
I don't do anything, repacks get downloaded as well, maybe my feeds are decent and it only pulls from known scene groups and sites, nearly everything it downloads is what it should be, and if I notice a repack has been downloaded I will just go in and tidy it up.