>The Senate and House have voted to repeal an FCC ruling that protects your Internet privacy and data from ISPs.
>In a party-line vote, House Republicans freed Internet service providers such as Verizon, AT&T and Comcast of protections approved just last year that had sought to limit what companies could do with information such as customer browsing habits, app usage history, location data and Social Security numbers. The rules also had required providers to strengthen safeguards for customer data against hackers and thieves.
>If Trump signs the legislation as expected, providers will be able to monitor their customers’ behavior online and, without their permission, use their personal and financial information to sell highly targeted ads.
>In addition, the Federal Communications Commission, which initially drafted the protections, would be forbidden from issuing similar rules in the future.
>Advocates for tough privacy protections online called Tuesday’s vote “a tremendous setback for America.”
>If Trump signs the legislation as expected, providers will be able to monitor their customers’ behavior online and, without their permission, use their personal and financial information to sell highly targeted ads.
this shit has been happening for years t. Obama Administration
>washingtonpost.com fucking kill yourself commie
Isaiah Anderson
>people defending/playing it down. This is fucking pathetic. Some political form of cognitive dissonance.
Juan Mitchell
>recently put into place laws that haven't even gone into effect yet are being repealed Oh no, literally nothing happened
>If Trump signs the legislation as expected, providers will be able to monitor their customers’ behavior online and, without their permission, use their personal and financial information to sell highly targeted ads. They have always been able to do that. The fact that you didn't even know this shows how little the issue actually means to you and that you're clearly only jumping on the bandwagon so you can shit-talk the opposing political party.
Luke White
>guys, this has always been happening >that's why it's okay to repeal this recent law that didn't even start being applied yet that was meant to prevent this from continuing Damn, Sup Forums sucks at logic. That's why you hardly even fizzbuzz.
Noah Mitchell
You're talking to ISP shills, hide and report.
Cooper Taylor
So, what is the best VPN? Do they fuck with download speeds, I've never used one.
Liam Long
you're one delusional person
Ian Lewis
tunnelr
Jackson Murphy
Good.
The US better embrace capitalism or they are literally communists.
Noah Cooper
Dude, maybe you're just the faggot losing his shit about literally nothing.
Noah Price
All this highlights, to me at least, is how flawed the system of internetworking is in terms of privacy and access. You're only renting the usage of these company's networks, so should they not have a say in how you use it and what they do with the information that they gain from you using it?
Liam Morris
Being spied on by Big Brother ISPs sounds a lot like communism. Privacy is fundamental to private property, and breaching privacy is violating the NAP.
Nathaniel Ortiz
>Privacy is fundamental to private property
Only YOUR private property. If you use the property of others they are the ones who set the rules, correct?
Isaac Carter
Aren't they just moving it from the FCC to the FTC and it'll get new regulations about privacy?
Evan Cox
Install a camera in your bathroom and let the government see.
What? Do YOU own the sewage pipes? No? Ok, go ahead, install that camera.
Landon James
Exactly. Which is why ISPs should not be able to abuse my property like that. How old are you?
Jordan Howard
>republicans >making new regulations unlikely
Ayden Cox
Have you ever owned a house? Any shit goes wrong on your property you foot the bill, because it's on your property.
Nicholas Cooper
But you're using their property. I bet it's even their router sat in your house.
Jeremiah Howard
No. If I hire a train to deliver my property across the country, the railroad company has (by the very definition of property) no jurisdiction over MY property inside their train. Train = their property. My package = my property.
How do you even live with the cognitive disonance that only the ISPs' property matters but not the customers' property?
Zachary Morales
How is my ISP going to sell ads?
Am I going to get pop ups on my computer from my ISP?
My ISP is invisible to me, they have no presence on my screen unlike google, how will they sell ad space?
Ethan Morgan
Companies being able to sell valuable goods (information in this case) is just capitalism.
Governments micro-managing what companies can and cannot do is basically communism.
Wyatt Ortiz
And I am paying them in money for that. Isn't that enough? Do they really need to also be allowed to use my property (namely my private data) for their own profit? How is that fair?
Juan Ross
The train company knows your package is aboard their carriage, correct? How is this any different.
As long as they don't look INSIDE your package then it's fine, correct?
Joshua Phillips
>Governments micro-managing what companies can and cannot do is basically communism.
So you don't know what communism is? might want to look that up
Thomas Ortiz
So what you're saying is communism is better than capitalism?
Couldn't agree more.
Colton Martinez
>But you're using their property. I bet it's even their router sat in your house.
bait
Zachary Reyes
Communism has nothing to do with that. Communism is about collective ownership of the means of production. Stop throwing around labels like that in a crude and desperate attempt to persuade people to agree with you by fear of belonging to "the adversary team".
Alexander Reyes
>Governments micro-managing what companies can and cannot do is basically communism.
communism is when the state owns the means of production (factories, businesses), not when the state says phone companies or ISPs can't spy on their customers
Lucas Lee
I would like to have a nice relationship with my government, if possible.
This is good:
Me: Pay taxes Government: Organizes stuff I cannot organize
As opposed to:
Me: Pay taxes Government: Puts camera in my bathroom
Daniel Torres
...
Xavier Morales
>How is my ISP going to sell ads? >Am I going to get pop ups on my computer from my ISP? >My ISP is invisible to me, they have no presence on my screen unlike google, how will they sell ad space?
dunno lol
Angel Martin
they take everything you browse and log it websites that sell advertising can lease it to companies who will contact your isp and ask - what does user here like? those spaces will be filled with adverts of your interests - pink dildos and cream
>but i have an adblocker good for you! you know how companies get hacked? you know how the information gets leaked by the hackers? would you like everyone on the planet to know exactly what you browse? i dont. i look at some dodgy shit.
its not just the potential advertising its the full indexing of everything you do online
Ryan Miller
> there are people in Sup Forums who supports this because this is Daddy Trump's party's bill
Like wtf happened here? What's next, you're going to bend over and use substandard encryption too?
Asher Kelly
But this is how American politics work, right? You are either with us or with the terrorists.
Liam Perez
You got something to hide, bub?
Robert Nelson
>civilian-grade encryption >substandard Fuck off encryptard with your misinformation.
Asymmetric law-enforcement-only backdoors are perfectly secure. The backdoors can only be used by the ones who planted them and only with a warrant.
The only difference between civilian-grade encryption and military-grade encryption is that military-grade is not asymmetrically (or in any other way) backdoored.
Study more.
Adrian Perez
See: The "my team" mental illness is very strong in NA.
Anyone who does not expose themselves for government inspect in all aspects of life is either a terrorist or a pedophile. Whether you are eating, pooping, walking, or sleeping, you have a duty to let the government watch. Doing otherwise means that you a communist Hitler bin Laden pedo criminal.
Robert Brown
That's just how humans in general work. They tend to be fearful of hateful labels because they wanna be a part of a larger group and feel the need to please (or at least not anger) the other members of their group. That's why politics are done like that: just label ideas you don't want people to adopt with hateful labels like "fascist", "communist", "something-phobic", etc.
Lucas Diaz
>Asymmetric law-enforcement-only backdoors are perfectly secure. The backdoors can only be used by the ones who planted them and only with a warrant. Cool meme NSA shill.
Tyler Edwards
Filtered.
Jonathan Thomas
Oh no, this was going to change so much. It's not like government regulation and municipalities taking preferences to certain ISPs and cutting out competition got us here in the first place.
You can really tell who's fresh off the boat from Reddit in these threads, because they're just always talking about those ebil republitards ruining everything while the good guys like John Leibowitz are fighting for them. These bug brains think they're gonna be the good guys leading the charge in a cyberpunk world, while living in it for the whole time as background characters.
Dominic Russell
Is there a way of automatically filtering all trip codes? There literally has never been a valuable contribution by a tripfag.
Liam Ross
4chanX can do forced anonymity for all users or if you don't even want to see the tripfag, you can use the filters to filter out any tripcode.
Angel Barnes
topcuck
Justin Scott
>ISPs spy on customers >"it's government's fault, guys! we need fewer government regulations! the poor ISPs dindu nuffin!" You sound just like libtards blaming guns for killings.
Stop with the ideological verborrhage too.
Parker Torres
Thanks!
I guess it's best to filter all tripcodes then. Shouldn't be long before I filtered all of this clinically retarded minority.
Caleb Brooks
>science is a meme
Mason Rogers
>Backdoors are secure >Oh shit, a bug was found that lets someone get around the encryption the government promised was secure >Oh shit, someone stole all the private keys and now anyone can get around the encryption now. Keep shilling NSA, you're not going to win.
Gabriel Long
First problem is solved by cryptanalysis.
Second problem is solved by forward secrecy.
Anything else?
>being a cryptographical illiterate
William Long
>defending backdoors Wow.
Andrew Nguyen
Wouldn't you if it were your job?
Also: Retarded comment by tripfag
Hudson Morales
Look at snowden. Look at vault7.
One single person fails at their duty, private keys get leaked and suddenly all your "civilian encryption collapses": Banks, infrastructure, satelites, electricity, emails, accounts on sites, privacy, logins and passwords on computers, research in uni and corporates, credit cards ...
I dont know from whom you want to defend your country, but when your "internet infrastructure" goes to shit, your country sort of stop working properly and goes into chaos and anarchy without singke bullet shot from your enemy.
Please stop spreading memes and educate yourself. The only way to be secure is when EVERYBODY (your enemies included) are secure.
Nathaniel Hill
Filtered out.
Matthew Jenkins
>It's literally impossible for the bad guys to find our backdoors and it's literally impossbile for a breach to happen. For get the NSA and CIA leaks, they don't count. Literally nobody could get around our encryption because it's literally impossible. You can trust the government, we would never lie to you or decrypt all your secrets behind your back because we don't like you. We are your friend and would never betray you.
Parker Sanchez
This will give the people the chance to rebuild society to their liking. Let it burn.
Jayden Taylor
I have AT&T and hated when they implemented this.
Easiest and probably only way to get something out of me.
Noah Adams
>your enemies must be secure too, goy It's funny how you say that and at the same time accuse ME of being the shill.
Jackson Ramirez
Why are American so obsessed with Corporations becoming a Government with unlimited private political power and authority?
A government with no checks and balances is never good thing. Why would it be good for the corporations?
Christian Barnes
It's unnerving. >oh, who cares, they already do it! >why have any thoughtful opinion about anything! >just pick one of two extremes about every matter!
Thomas Campbell
So you're suggesting everything is so broken it needs to die like a phoenix and be reborn from it's ashes?
Logan Wilson
Mutually Assured Destruction applied to digital technology.
Xavier Butler
>"It's literally impossible for the bad guys to find our backdoors" >I don't know how an asymmetric backdoor works Please, you're just making your cryptographical illiteracy more evident with every post.
It is the government's fault you fucking retard. Municipalities gave the rights to their telephone poles to one company and expect shit to work out. The federal government can't do shit even if they tried because local laws can overpower state laws. Using your gun analogy, it's the same reason that California has fucking retarded gun laws compared to the rest of the US, even though the 2nd amendment exists.
Nolan Evans
All this >muh capitalism America hasn't been Capitalist in years When Obama was paid to undermine our coal industry, guess who bought it all, and now Trump brings it all back into power, under a sole owner Sounds like fucking capitalism. Can't beat the system, become the system. Hurray for this new brand of capitalism being praised everywhere by debt monkeys.
Asher Bell
Of course, now I see how it's the government's fault that the ISPs are taking all their customers' private info and selling it to the highest bidder.
At last I truly see.
Henry Jenkins
>Please be aware, it may take up to 48 hours to process your request. If you are an AT&T DSL customer you'll need to restart your modem for the opt out to become effective. It never ends.
Jose Rivera
>just pick one of two extremes about every matter! In the USA, being in the middle is the exact same thing as being on the opposite side.
Ryder Collins
Ever since Clinton we've spiraled out of control, rapidly and violently. The media is owned by the same people that fund our politicians. We have no savior and Trump can barely function.
Hunter Kelly
Your backdoor is running off the assumption that the government is pure and honest and would never work against your interest. How do you know the person who planted it won't start working against you because they don't like you?
Thomas Baker
I agree, tripfag. Civil war when.
William Adams
Polarizing politics is the way the right found to control us. That is why the US is still one of the most backwardsly right-wing countries in the world.
Benjamin Hall
its the Puritans
Asher Evans
Checks and balances, rule of law, shit like that. You know, this is not the first time we're giving the government some power that can be abused. Mechanisms to deal with that have already been invented. Welcome to modernity.
Carson Ortiz
>polarization of two sides >i-it's the right's fault!
Colton Jackson
>mutually assured destruction Except when you fire off nuke, it is pretty easy with our current technology to find out from where it go. And nuke wasteland is very scary even for dum dum politicians.
But when you are from super poor country, there is really not much you can lose by killing lets say usa online infrastructure. And in online world you can make a lot of fake evidence to claim it was somebody else. So really hindering your online security is just short sighted way how to get all pedos.
It is pretty clear you have run out of arguments so you went for >ad hominem good luck to you for what ever reason you do this.
Brody Moore
The US doesn't have any right wing politicians. Just rebranded conservatives akin to the new age liberals. They want big Gov to manage small business instead of letting it manage itself. In today's world, real conservatives are killed off in car accidents.
Government doesn't give a fuck about the rule of law, they're trying to chip it away right now.
Robert Phillips
So you suggest anarchy?
Lincoln Johnson
The Government would care more if 3rd parties didn't line their pockets and Americans could scrutinize them, or they were subject to the laws they write for everyone else.
Tyler Peterson
it is, the right has always silenced the left I doubt you would know, but leftists use to fight for freedom of speech
Ethan Howard
I want a government that isn't going to betray the country they promised to protect.
Hudson Nguyen
Hate to be the one to break this to you, but from an outsider's perspective, the difference between the dems and repubs is MUCH smaller than what the talking TV heads pretend it is.
Elijah Jackson
The party of yesteryear isn't the party of today. Two feet carrying the same nation crushing deity.
Aiden Gutierrez
This user gets it. More people need to be redpilled.
Aaron Kelly
How are they supposed to protect it from threats such as terrorism and child pornography without the capability of investigation?
Do you even have an idea how many crimes go unsolved because of encryption?
#UnlockJustice
Levi Cooper
Yes, it is the government's fault on a local level, because they favored 4 big companies that were one big company at one point and made it impossible for a small company to enter the market. In any other country, you could switch to an other ISP that won't sell your information., but many places in the US only have one choice.
Gabriel Morales
>Do you even have an idea how many crimes go unsolved because of mathematics?
Lincoln Baker
>He doesn't know the CIA runs child porn rings, controls the drug trade, and manages terrorist groups Yeah man, it's all this evil freedom that's the problem. Next we should take away free speech because you might deny the 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 were killed by evil aryan monsters like yourself
Ryan Foster
But I know that, user. Which is why we are working to change the Democratic party.
Logan Anderson
Democrats and republicans are similar but where they differ the republicans are usually on the "wrong" side.
Leo Thomas
Like voter IDs? Or illegal immigration?
Mason Peterson
Republicans don't want people going to jail because they made someone upset on the internet.
Alexander Perry
>do you even have an idea how many people die because of physics?
Leo Davis
do you even have an idea how many people die?
Ian Williams
>unironically believing pizzagate
Jonathan Sanchez
Guess who facilitated that? The fucking companies. Fuck off with your bullshit scapegoating.