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Finder.

shitty logo and name

buzzword-arrogant marketing

whats wrong with it

waiting for redcuck tripfag to show up to see him spew his autism

Less hardware support than BSD

-Can't multitask the same way you can with windows.
- For edgy design fags with a love for starbucks

To quote from Ubuntu forums:

"A *huge* part of Mac OS X essential core software is used by Apple from freeloading (legally, since the respective licenses do grant this) from Free and Open Source Software stack:

* their Kernel: it is taken from BSD.

* their Compiler: it is GCC (GNU Compiler Collection).

* their User Authentication: it is taken from MIT Kerberos/krb5.

* their Encryption; it is taken from OpenSSH.

* their Directory Service: it is taken from OpenLDAP.

* their Print Spool Server: it is taken from CUPS.

* their non-PS Printer Drivers: they are taken from Gimp-Print/Gutenprint.

* their Windows Interoperability: it is taken from Samba.

* their Web Server: it is taken from Apache.

* their Web Browser Safari and WebCore: it is built around KHTML and KJS, taken from KDE.

* and further, they are happy to take advantage of X11, of OpenOffice, of Mozilla and lots of other Open Source Software if it fits them. They do use many thousand of man-years worth of Free Software for free in their OS."

Then they choose to make it overpriced and closed source. It simply pisses me off.

this is awesome. apple is the biggest open source company that means

- can't navigate to root directory
- can't use tabs
- can't show hidden files without a restart
- can't open a terminal in current location
- can't edit address bar
- can't open files with one click or enter press
- can't create an empty file IIRC

It's extremely locked down and gay.

You realize the logo is 2 kissing men right?

CUPS was purchased and is currently developed by Apple.

For some reason, Linux users seem to believe that they have the sole rights to all and any FOSS software despite the best of that software was written for UNIX.
What Linux software does Apple use?

what is it you wish to get around that is locked down?

at least it has columnar view mode, which no graphical linux file manager can seem to do.

Finder may be ass in a lot of ways but it's got the only decent miller columns implementation so it wins by default

>* their Kernel: it is taken from BSD.
Sort of, it's a BSD/Mach hybrid
>* their Compiler: it is GCC (GNU Compiler Collection).
No, it's Clang.
>* their Encryption; it is taken from OpenSSH.
Noot everything needs to be done from scratch, rolling your own encryption is generally a bad idea.

>* their Print Spool Server: it is taken from CUPS.
Apple owns and develops CUPS, Linux is the legal "freeloader" here.
* and further, they are happy to take advantage of X11
Apple has their own display server, it's called Quartz Compositor.
>OpenOffice, of Mozilla
How?

You could spend a week on this board and see everything it will ever have to offer

finder
the dock
the DE
basically the entire UI

Quit talking out of your ass, most of what you said are blatant lies.

All Apple cloud run on Linux.

-> can't navigate to root directory
>- can't use tabs
>- can't create empty file
false
>- can't show hidden files without a restart
so?
>- can't open files with one click or enter press
who the fuck opens files with one press? and once selected, press enter
>- can't edit address bar
use 'go' in the menu bar if you want to navigiate to a specific folder

next

Inferior to directory tree view, but it's still probably the only thing that makes finder tolerable

Nope, miller columns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else

>-> can't navigate to root directory
There's no graphical option, you have to use unintuitive shit like cmd-shift-g and manually typing the entire path with no autocompletion
>so?
this is the macfag defence - apple hasn't made a useful feature, so you shouldn't need it!
>who the fuck opens files with one press?
Who the fuck doesn't?
>and once selected, press enter
That renames the file, fag. Do you even use the piece of shit OS?
>use 'go' in the menu bar if you want to navigiate to a specific folder
Or, just have an editable address bar like any sane file manager

nope

>There's no graphical option
found the kiddo
> apple hasn't made a useful feature
the feature is there, restart finder for changes to take effect
>Who the fuck doesn't?
everyone i know
>Or, just have an editable address bar
doesnt matter, functionality is there

You couldn't be more wrong.

>There's no graphical option
You literally just click on your root drive, it couldn't possibly be easier.

finder is the best GUI based file manager. every linux distro rips it to no end. idk what youre talking about

Finder does have its flaws. I don't see how a multibillion dollar company can't handle making a file manager with a decent thumbnail mode.

Ok, so we have established that being just barely functional is enough for mactoddlers. No need to discuss this further.

Finder is ass.
Walled garden.
Aesthetics are generally mediocre bar Yosemite.

But Mac OS is Unix-like, so it's better than Windows by default.

name me one (1) file manager thats better

>walled garden
We're talking about OS X, not iOS
>OS X is Unix-like
It _is_ UNIX

Bash and coreutils that aren't ancient are pretty comfy.

not as comfy as finder.

next

>OS that obviously doesn't want users to install programs outside of their store
>not a walled garden

It's fine if you use your point and click babby's first file manager but when you realize that not a single power user uses that thing you might see for yourself that you might have been delusional all along.

then just use terminal

next

Are you seriously complaining about having to change one goddamned option in the settings? Meanwhile you'll sperg about how people are too lazy to manually edit config files and rice their shit.

what does a ""power user"" use?

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I personally use shell, mc, plus anything with decent image previews for images. It's just faster to type shit than when I have to find it and click it.

>their Compiler: it is GCC (GNU Compiler Collection).
how old is this post? They've been using clang forever.

Is there anything wrong with them using open source software? They're not even selling the OS, you can't get the OS without the hardware, without violating the TOS.

>Is there anything wrong with them using open source software?
Nothing at all. If they don't like Apple using their software then they should choose a license that prevents it.

>Exposé
>click on window

>Click on file
>space bar

That was hard.

Cmd+`

>- can't navigate to root directory
Wrong.
Since I assume you mean Finder: Try "go to"
>- can't use tabs
Wrong.
Of course you can, ALT+TAB just does not do what you want it to do
learn other keyboard shortcuts
>- can't show hidden files without a restart
Wrong.
You need to restart Finder though
>- can't open a terminal in current location
Wrong.
System Service, litteraly first google result
>- can't edit address bar
What address bar ? For what reason ?
>- can't open files with one click or enter press
Wrong~ish
Force Touch, press different buttons
>- can't create an empty file IIRC
lolwhut ? Of course you can. macOS is OpenGroup Unix 03 certified
Its more unix than your beloved gentoo

Windows or linux can switch to the 3rd window in one click without all that retarded bullshit.

Why would you want to click when you can use keybindings to cycle windows?

>* their Print Spool Server: it is taken from CUPS

No shit, CUPS was made by apple

Actually Apple hired the CUPS developer and bought the rights to it a decade ago.

I'm trying to think of flaws but there legitimately are none

I have to talk about gayming if I want to badmouth mac

OS X is Unix, not UNIX.

OS X is UNIX.

First you have to find it among a bunch of other files. In shell you just type first ~3 letters and press tab. Faster especially when you need to go several levels deeper.

command+`
If you want to switch between apps, use command+tab

im a full time OSX user for sound design

the file system is shit and can't really be trusted. ive debated using ZFS on my hack but running it without ECC is kinda flakey.

You could use Windows if you weren't a complete faggot.

From the UNIX site:

>It must not be used as a generic term.
>It must not be used in connection with products, unless the product is licensed to use the mark.
>There are detailed guidelines referring to the visual presentation, form and manner of use.
>In editorial or articles, but not advertising the trade marks may be used without prior permission - provided that the rules in our Trademark Usage Guide are followed

Neither MacOS or OS X is UNIX, which is a trademark of The Open Group.

So you still have to key in the full path, tab-key assisted or not? And you can type in the first couple letters in the Finder and it'll highlight the first matching item in the window.

I'm not totally blowing off the command line, but you need to get off the notion that it's the one, true best way for everything. I'm also not discounting the possibility that if you spend all your time in there, it might be just that much more efficient to do than taking your hand off the keyboard to reach for the mouse and switch your mind into a GUI mode of thought.

the time saved not having to deal with windows bullshit with their audio management is worth it. the baked in midi studio with the IAC bus is worth the price of admission alone. window needs so much extra bullshit to get it functional as a DAW computer. ASIO4ALL for example.

osx just works when its time for me to work

windows is the OS for manchildren playing vidya and watching animes

Every version of OS X since 10.5 on Intel has been certified by the Open Group to be UNIX compliant.

No since their own product is closed source. H how dense can you be?

OS X is an open source OS with closed source components.

OS X is a closed sourced OS with some open sourced components.

Reverse it, and you'd be correct.
The only open source version of OS X is Darwin.

APFS will come in time to rid the Mac of HFS+

Classic Mac OS, by the appearance of System 7, was fucking great and blew away Windows. As long as you figured out your extensions and had enough RAM, it was solid. I've run Macs for months back in those days (I had several Quadra 700s in an Appletalk network) without rebooting. B the time 9 rolled around stability was often impaired by shitty 3rd party drivers or software, but as long as you could avoid that it was perfectly fine as well.

Things like multiple monitors just always working, easy configuration of peripherals, excellent fonts and color management, and lots of software made it an easy choice for many people, from LISP programmers to normalfag artist types and grannies.

OS X is great and a big improvement at the architectural level bringing us the superior Next greatness as well as providing us with a familiar Unix™® environment but it's just not comfy like the classic Mac OS was. Too bad about the state of the browser on older Macs, otherwise they'd be more usable today.

>freeloading
that would be something like, taking bsd code and never ever sharing your changes

they contribute to many projects which is the entire spirit of the bsd community

gnutards can't discern sharing from freeloading, they are commies who want to force you to comply to their autism

>running it without ECC is kinda flakey
not at all, it's still a million times better than a non-zfs filesystem

you get another level of extra fault protection with ecc but it works great without it

OS X is based on Darwin, an open source OS developed by Apple.

It naturally draws technologically challenged folks who stack shortcuts on the desktop on top of each other, and they always have 500 shortcuts on their desktop.

>B the time 9 rolled around stability was often impaired by shitty 3rd party drivers or software, but as long as you could avoid that it was perfectly fine as well.
Finder wasn't 3rd party software.

OS 9 is the worst OS I ever used.
And I used Windows ME for a while.

And how does that affect you using OS X?

gay users

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Botnet

>can't use tabs
That's news to me.

The logo is literally, two men making out.

>been trying to come up with a flaw for 2 hours
>still none

Well maybe if you have your mind in the gay gutter

>mactoddler can't even tell the difference between real UNIX and poo in loo streetshitterOS with UNIX compliance hackjob shoehorned in

This thread kind of set the theme.

>2006-2015
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel admitted it's shit and went back to solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>shit tier 1mm travel chiclet kb
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats constantly from abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz due to chronic overheating problems
>retina meme for "pros" have have gloss mirror coating impossible to use with overhead lighting
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
>shitbook air even worse with glossy 1366x768 TN eye cancer
>systemic battery explosion problems for over a decade

>2016+
9to5mac.com/2016/11/03/2016-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-compatibility-issues
youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o
>can't use any existing TB3 devices
>can't use USB and wifi at the same time
>ultra shit tier zero travel kb
>keyboard louder than WWII cricket
>memetouch emojibar
>no USB-A
>no escape
>soldered ram
>soldered SSD
>tamper tape on battery screws
>applel falls for their own thin meme and uses 54WH battery
>2 hour battery life

howtogeek.com/198043/how-to-merge-folders-on-mac-os-x-without-losing-all-your-files-seriously
>it's 2017 and moving files around in finder will STILL cause massive data loss

>macshit is good
Can we finally put an end to this meme?

Cancer user base

Not really, I've yet to have a gay thought and I've been itt for a few hours. It's okay to come out of the closet, user, I'm sure your dad will understand. No need to take it out on people you accuse of being gay because of shitty memes that are older than you are.

Nice copypasta

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It doesn't make the system run worse, it makes it worse to run the system.

Utter fucking shit battery management.

Not in the slightest

Underrated post.

It's subjective.

Well then you have some serious issues.

>No need to take it out on people you accuse of being gay because of shitty memes that are older than you are.
As a gay man, I find this totally inappropriate. Who the fuck are you to deny gays their memes? I paid a lot for this computer and it sure as hell is going to be GAY if I say it is.

Can you not bully for having a slight difference of opinion?
I don't like the baggage that comes with "being an Apple user," and find it more appealing to be carrying the baggage of "being a Linux freetard."
I already told you the system runs fine, when you have only a handful of products to support you should run well on them.

>Botjeet can't even work out the correct thread to post his pasta in

There is no baggage, you dumbass. It's just a retarded Internet meme that nobody in real life gives two shits about.

Its almost as if macOS was never meant to be a standalone OS to install on any machine. Really fucking made me think. Think about the average intelligence of the people who post here.