/hsg/ Home Server General

Home server general is a general thread to discuss building, setting up your own homeserver and maintaining the services and demons on it.
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>hostan. installan. rebootan. crying about uptime.

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Anyone got any imagemacros of old homeserver jokes?

Anyone tried running pfsense on an odroid ux4?

>inb4 that one autismo who brags with his workstation shit and shills microsoft garbage like crazy

I'm getting a PC for free soon. It's moderately powerful but dated, it was built for gaymes in 2010 so it will need to upgrade some things such as storage and RAM. I want to turn it into a home server but I'm not entirely sure what I can do with it. What are some neat DIY things to try?

what sort of stuff are you into? Have you tried linux or BSD before?

I really like DIY projects and have a decent level of Linux experience but the furthest I've gotten was unsuccessfully running a CentOS FTP server. Why it didn't work I never fully understood but I got the gist of it.

For what it's worth the machine runs Win7 and I have experience with VMs.

what about getting an FTP server set up then? Then you can cross that off as a sucess. you could use debian which is very easy

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how is your hearing, then?

this is so fucking nice

the switch and firewall make more noise than anything else combined by a long shot. and naturally that room is dedicated to that stuff

>ESXi 6.5 on quad core Xeon E3 workstation
>16GB RAM, 120GB SSD
>PfSense and Debian webserver
>Ruckus 7962 AP

I want to get a server to run a couple of Windows guests alongside what I already have running. Any recommendations for a cheap server off eBay or something?

small enclosed rack with my nas and all the networking shoved under basement stairs. I don't know how all you niggers deal with the noise and the heat leaving this out in the open.

>consumer grade networking

The only thing cheaper than used enterprise gear is used consumer gear.

Sounds like something I'd try.

Would I be able to set it up so that I could use it without a kb&m? Remote or SSH into it?

yes, SSH is the best thing ever!

and im over here using a netbook from 2010 with an external hard-drive as my home server.
nzbget server set to auto download NZBs
use it for streaming media (no transcoding)
CCTV uploads 10MB videos to it.
TV (OTA) recorder/stream

Using the old trust 2500k as a server now that ryzen is out.
2x3TB hdds for my storage, 2x1TB hdds just for seeding.
Running web server, NAS, torrents.

Nothing special at all but it's maddening to see the kind of junk people on here have.

>the furthest I've gotten was unsuccessfully running a CentOS FTP server. Why it didn't work I never fully understood

CentOS

2005 tier

This. Debian >>>>> RHEL/CentOS/Fedora

i'll never understand people who need a +500w machine running 24/7 to host videos or some torrent box.
its like having a Hummer H2 running 24/7, only to use it in the city on the weekend

What's wrong with CentOS?

$ neofetch
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`d$$' ,$P"' . $$$ Uptime: 6 days, 23 hours, 31 minutes
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Y$$. `.`"Y$$$$P"' GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6320
`$$b "-.__ Memory: 2102MiB / 7942MiB
`Y$$ Disk (/): 2.9G / 12G (24%)
`Y$$. Disk (/backup): 71G / 267G (27%)
`$$b. Disk (/data): 714G / 917G (78%)
`Y$$b. Disk (/data2): 133G / 193G (69%)
`"Y$b._ Disk (/sysexp): 17G / 29G (60%)
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Does the job fine and never gets old.

here are full specs if anyone gives a shit

What software are you running in the servers?

I don't get the joke

okay

NEVER OBSOLETE

>Yum

3 esxi hosts and 1 that is sitting while i build up the nerve to spend $1000 to fill it up with drives for a 6x6 radi6 nas

why won't you clean this shit up and move everything into a small rack cabinet?
You'll save A LOT of space that way, and it's gonna look much more professional.

because space isnt an issue and i dont care

>I don't know how all you niggers deal with the noise and the heat leaving this out in the open.
One solution I've seen was putting a duct directly to the outside from the back of the rack to dump all that heat outside. Angle the outside vent downward and put a large commercial-grade fan on the intake so you don't have to worry about water or debris intake.

Why the fuck do you have four WAP/wireless bridges?

Disgusting.
You can also take a shit on one of these servers. It will make no difference to how it looks.

Do you also move around your house naked because "noone is looking" and "I don't care"? Do you even daily take a shower?

shitty hardware but it werks
> router
> ipv6 tunnel

Do you also move around your house naked because "noone is looking" and "I don't care"
only in the morning
or at night

>SiS
Holy shit.

yep, cannot install gnu/linux without external graphics card

>home server
>not cloud server
D E P R E C A T E D

You were in middle school at the time

why should i give a shit how it looks?

My little Windows Home Server 2011 box has done me good for a long time now. Currently got around 7.5TB of mixed data. Does all I require without fail. Specs: Opteron-170 2.0 Ghz/4GB Ram/10TB (storage)/1TB (OS/Client Backups).
Currently holding at 7.5TB cause I plan to totally gut and build a new server late this year. Once the data is moved over to the new drives I plan to create a master Archive backup of all existing data ( stored on a single 8TB drive) (I hope Macrum Reflect's high compression rate will allow all 7.5TB to fit on a single 8TB drive) and keep said drive for long term safe keeping. I do have other backups but this will just be extra insurance.

Rack from top to bottom, I don't have pics right now

Ubiquiti UAP-AC-Lite
ZyXEL GS1920-24 (core switch)
2x Ubiquiti ER-X-SFP
2x Old 3com 48 port gigabit managed switch
Dell PowerEdge 2950 with a Xeon E5335 and 18GB RAM running Proxmox
2x Supermicro server with 4GB RAM and a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, one running Confluence and Jira
Old desktop PC with quad core AMD and 4GB RAM
MGE UPS, 3000VA

In the back is a APC Zero-U switched and metered PDU
On the other side of the room is a ZyXEL GS1900-10HP switch that connects an ODROID U2, a TV and a laptop (Dell XPS 13 from 2013) running Kodi
Both switches and routers are connected over OM3 fiber, because why not

recently finished converting a SATA-to-SCSI controller I got for cheap to fit a regular microATX system.

the case/backplane has some nice features like redundant supplies, front LCD/buttons, HDD bay power ctl, LEDs, etc

took a bit of work to reverse engineer all of that, but was a cool project and everything ended up working fine.

in the end I have NAS with 8 SATA bays + 2 internal SATA ports, redundant PSUs and some other cool stuff which cost ~€300 excluding the HDDs.
not that cheap, but was fun to build.

>Middle school

Not a yank m8

Is it worth getting a Xeon E3-12X5 with an iGPU for a Plex media server? I've got five tablets and four smartphones I want to stream movies to and I've heard CPU transcoding isn't efficient enough for more than four 1080p streams

So what can I do with a home server?

Store and access files obviously. And stream those files to different devices, too.

Any other cool uses?

are you planning on streaming to all 4 devices at the same time?

Thinking about building a NAS/seedbox in the near future. Would upgrading the SSD in my main computer to NVMe and installing Infiniband or direct attach copper cards for transferring large files/monthly backups be a waste of money?

Yes.

Gateway, UTM, VPN, FTP, email, OpenSSH/PuTTy, DNS, Active Directory, SQL, render farm, seedbox, VM/VD, or an HTTP/web server

you honestly don't need SSD, but if you want you can get it. no real gain from it.

You're limited by your internet connection, so you'll only benefit from 1 GB/s connections within your own LAN, provided that both the upload and download machines are capable of reading/writing data at 1 GB/s.

whats the eurofag equivalent of middle school, attending mudslime weddings because all your female class mates are being married off?

The computers would be directly connected, with an internet connection on the server for torrenting.

For the sake of appearances. Literally.
Because good looking hardware is pleasing. Because keeping your shit organized is good for you. Because extra space is useful.

Then you're bottlenecked by the slowest storage medium on either end. It takes at least four HDDs in RAID0 or two SATA SSDs to reach 1 GB/s at peak.

the space is not an issue, everything is where it should be, and putting a rack in will do nothing that effect performance.

Me again, when i finally do the whole rebuild/archive backup drive deal it's going to be a real pain in the ass not to mention expensive. Several new 4TB drives for the server, 1 8TB drive for archive purpose, plus I plan to clean up my data. Do a whole folder restructuring job while I'm at it before I run the master backup. But at the end of the day it'll be well worth it. Everything will be good as new for a few more years and my existing data will be well protected. Client Data -> Server -> Primary Backup -> Archive Backup (Last Line of defense)

BOINC

It's called going to primary school or secondary school, also UK isn't euro anymore, article 50 triggered, on the way out burgerman

>Just setup my home server
>Haven't used HDD's in my main rig for years
>Oh yeah they make noise

Well fuck me where I was gonna put it isn't gonna work

Do you need to buy a dedicated server or can you just make one out of a full tower case?

you can use any computer! that's what I do

cool thread. I need to setup a home server to run deamons and a email service.

what more is there to a server other than a computer that runs all the time?
Any tips for a noob?

Backups!. Raid is good and all but don't use it alone. You'll only wind up getting screwed when one day you go to play some vids and they all got playback errors when you know that at one time they were all fine. Then you have to spend time re ripping them all. If you got backups all you gotta do is restore them and be on your way in far less time. I've found this out the hard way. Also having a UPS to shut down the server in times of power failure would be a good idea to.

Its a computer that runs all the time to do something supporting other computers.

For use at home, figure out how much hardware power you about need to run a linux or bsd and then just buy or design a low power box accordingly.

>Active Directory
Ahh shit, that'd be cool to have.

It don't need high end parts. Make sure that whatever case you use has enough drive bays for current needs plus extra for growth. NAS drives are the only drives for server use. Regular desktop drives are not designed for 24/7 usage or for raid configurations. Plus Nas drives have a longer warranty (3-5yrs) v.s (2 yrs reg desktop). If you have a lot of data your storage requirements will be your core expense cause it's not just for your server storage needs but also for your server backup as well. So for ex you got 9TB of data you need 9tb total drive space + 9TB of backup space to.

Just threw one together with a business class HP tower I got for free. Just picked up two two 3 TB drives and set them up as a Samba share in RAID1. I don't really have an insane amount of things to store. I've been running Alpine on it just to check it out. Sub 100MB RAM usage most of the time although sometimes BusyBox leaves out some command options I use occasionally.

The most interesting thing I've done is set up a pseudo SMTP server on it. I got a huge all in one printer that was getting thrown out, but it only scans to email. It's just a python script that catches the email, strips the attachment and dumps it to a folder on the share.

I've been meaning to set it up so I can point mpd to it.

>It don't need high end parts
This. I've got a Pentium N3700 pulling triple duty as an rsync, SSH, and VPN server. It doesn't skip a beat.

Growth potential is mainly for storage boxes where your hoarding instinct will make it grow anyhow, but to allow this you generally need to buy somewhat more expensive parts (case, mainboard, psu etc) up front.

If you dont need much storage or are going to expand the cloud way you can avoid or defer that expense and just buy a humble small htpc / diy / prepared home nas type storage box at the cost of maybe just a bigger mainboard&psu. Its an alternative to consider.

Having lots of data is nice and all (I've got like a shit ton of vids, mostly tv shows and whatnot) but keep in mind your backup/restore times. Yes incremental backups don't take long if you do it over time, ex start with 1TB full backup then 1.5TB Inc, 2TB Inc, etc. But say you wind up with 10TB total and your server shits itself (total drive failure, raid rebuild is not an option). Your talking at least a week to do a total restore not taking into account the time to get the server back into service. You quickly realize that GB Ethernet is becoming a bottleneck least when it comes to pushing large data transfers. (Especially when your internal drives have the capacity to do Sata II (3GBs) or Sata III (6GBs). Yes a week is a far cry compared to spending months re ripping movies but still time is money (or so the saying goes)

>NAS drives are the only drives for server use
NAS drives are shit and have an order of magnitude worse unrecoverable errors compared to actual enterprise class disks.

wdc.com/content/dam/wdc/website/downloadable_assets/eng/spec_data_sheet/2879-800002.pdf

hgst.com/sites/default/files/resources/US7K4000_ds.pdf

What about partitioning striped/parity disks and doing staggered scheduled back ups of each partition? So let's say that you have multiple 10TB HDDs in a 30TB RAIDZ1 array, there would be 3 10TB partitions you could schedule for back ups at a time rather than attempting to back up the whole disk at once?

And what affect will having an SSD write-through cache for an array have on back-ups?

>SSD write-through cache
You dont understand what write-through means do you?

>Write-through cache is good for applications that write and then re-read data frequently as data is stored in cache and results in low read latency.
Write once, read many
Works best with SMR drives

>Write once, read many
Thats not what write-through is, that would be WORM, and SSDs are not WORM media.

Hey guys, looking for soho servers, was thinking about the power edge 330 from Dell. It has to be manufacturer for warranty, just trying to find something small for AD for maybe 100 users. Any ideas?

>small for AD for maybe 100 users
A VM with 1 core and 1GB RAM.

>searchsolidstatestorage.techtarget.com/tip/Problems-with-using-SSDs-for-write-caching-and-how-to-avoid-them
SSDs can be whatever you need them to be. Just because they're better utilized as write-back for outright speed doesn't mean that there aren't other ways you can use them.

>searchsolidstatestorage.techtarget.com/tip/Problems-with-using-SSDs-for-write-caching-and-how-to-avoid-them
Your article is retarded and is written by a boomer with a background in marketing who clearly has no idea what he is talking about:

techtarget.com/contributor/Marc-Staimer

>Just because they're better utilized as write-back for outright speed doesn't mean that there aren't other ways you can use them.
Keep on pretending to be retarded user

Wow, you sure showed me

I recently upgraded my server with a newer board and a quadcore Xeon

Still runs Proxmox, handling my email, owncloud and file services

...and today I threw the old board into this lovely thing.

Dunno yet what I'm gonna do with this. Maybe backups? Seems a bit of a waste of a server though

I'm partial to Dell, but I may add an HP to my collection.

My networking cabinet

contents:
ADSL modem
HP Thin client running pfSense
Zyxel 16-port gigabit switch

>server
>uptime 6 days

LMAOI

hp gen 8
poweredge 2950 & 2650
cisco & dell FE switch
ssl-vpn

No real use for anything but one of the switches and the gen8, mostly play around with OS's in exsi with the rest and learn about routing/vlans

Is that really all you need for AD? I'm sorry, I haven't used it much, just prepping for a competition where I may need to know pricing and specs for servers

You guys ever used object storage on your servers?
I read about it... Seems like a good idea.

Speed isn't really a concern for me. Just expandability.

Are those fucking Poweredge 1950 III's?

those fuckers are old

>poweredge 2950 & 2650

They still ancient as fuck though, 2950 is 775 socket 2650 has an ati rage card, that tells you how old it is.

No pic but my setup is mostly confined a corner of my basement. Cable WIFi/modem -> 8 port switch-> Server + 2 WDTV Lives + 2 Desktops, & a NAS. Wifi -> 1 laptop, 1 netbook, 1 tablet, 1 smartphone, & Samsung 65" smart TV

>tfw both servers have dead PSUs
Now I'm down to using an SBC with Fast Ethernet for my external HDD because OS X can't into Btrfs

It's the same thing, in our case.

You shut your whore mouth

ok so like i don't trust windows and never did. I want to dump all my data and files onto my other computer which i suppose will use a distro of linux and be my file server... my question is: where the fuck do i start? should i just install/setup ssh server and ftp? then just login via ssh or ftp to access my data? i suppose i should also install samba so windows can see the file server on the workgroup...

;_; please help me i really want to learn and understand the correct methods and guides and what not....

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is it worth buying that for $299 (there's a coupon) if i want something primarily for storage/file sharing but also the occasional multi-hour simulation/code runs? i was hoping for a smaller footprint and something with HS HDDs, but for this price i don't think i would be able to get more than a similar CPU and motherboard. on the flip side, if i do decide to upgrade it i don't think i'd save anything other than the CPU since everything else seems to be cheap.