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>Eurobeat
mein negar
I like headphones but I dont like anime, how do I get into anime so I can participate in /hpg/?
Interested to hear about those 5 buck IEMs that rival the SE846s!
You don't. /hpg/ is for headphones; anime is only an extra.
but how can I post a if I don't have a waifu
Reminder to ignore spam in /hpg/ and to ignore mentally ill racist trolls.
Easy, you don't :)
Only one of those posts last thread was mine. The rest was from an unknown user. :^)
Sennheiser HD600.
Sennheiser HD600
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HJE120. Not even shitposting. It might even be slightly better to be honest.
my /csg/ set up
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Had these and the Denon C360s side by side once when looking for nicer than just apple earbuds once and no they are not even close to higher end stuff. The resolution is lacking as hell and might mask any sort of subpar file quality for sure, but high quality iems, no fucking way!
I need some new IEM's.
>~$500
>preferably something easy to drive
>something that sounds very clear but also with strong bass response.
Etymotic Research ER4XR Extended Range In-Ear Monitors
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Long time eurobeat fan here as well :o
Don't know what IEMs those are, but I'm pretty sure $400+ of DAP and amp isn't something I'd consider to be /csg/ lol.
Resolution isn't real, it's all frequency response.
Windows 10 Creators Update fucked up all sound device settings and now my interface won't be recognized. It did add pic related to the tabs. Pretty cool if it works as should. Too bad nothing works atm.
Late night tunes.
This kills the Sennheiser shill.
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Hey fellas I just got a Fiio e10k, I'm using HD598se......my question is....What default audio format should I use, I put it to 24bit and 96000Hz.....should I leave it there or bring it down to something lower?
bump....please help fellas, im cluless with this stuff
>HD 580
Hmmm...
Don't mind me... just the best headphones under $1000 coming through.
Stay mad poorfags.
>Stay mad poorfags.
But those are midfi cans...
Pick your poison.
>headphone general
>cartoon girl is using earphones
Oh look, we've got the same monitor, use the same headphones and enjoy Eurobeat :^)
24bit 44khz or 48khz, i use 48khz since I play games and consume media, I rarely listen to music, there isn't a difference that's noticeable among them however
HD598 or Philips X2
nobass and mud or bass
HD598 if you want a flatter signature, X2 if you like bass. I think SHP9500 is better than both and conveniently it's the cheapest. If you can afford it consider HD600 which is better than all three.
But if you like bass get the X2. I've owned all four of these headphones.
If you want something mids/treble centric, 598.
If you want bass, Fidelio X2.
Not only that, but
>Offering you the earphone from the ear nearest to you
but tyll said they were nicer than the hd 600s
I like bass but I don't want it to ruin the mids/highs
>I like bass but I don't want it to ruin the mids/highs
Maybe you'd like the Fidelio X2, personally I dislike it but it has somewhat acceptable mids/highs for a bassy headphone.
>it consider HD600 which is better than all three
SNNNAAAAAPPP
>but tyll said they were nicer than the hd 600s
he also said he400s are nicer than hd 600. must be his trademark.
I'm no shill,
HD600 > SHP9500 > HD598 > X2.
I consider HD598 obsolete because of its stupid impedance curve.
Maybe because they are.
I have 2 sets of head/earphones that I would recommend.
First are some Alessandro Music Pros (variants of the Grado RS1s)
Second is the Shure SE846s.
They aren't placebo....but you need to have gratuitous disposable income for both. If you don't, grab some of their lower level companions which are also good in their own rights and are much more cost effective. Buying used always helps.
>stupid impedance curve
Can you explain this to an audio retard?
happy april's fools day to you too
It sounds like shit on some sources.
do you know the output impedance of his source?
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Top right one is actually fine, akg and beyers have similar discrepancy in highs. Have you ever tried HD700, you might like it.
>Top right one is actually fine
looks like it's about 11 db short of bass
>but I don't want it to ruin the mids/highs
Mids suck ass on X2 especially in comparison to HD600. Going by Tyll's memes you may want to try out HE400S for dat planar bass while still retaining coherent and present mids. They build like shit tho.
Understanding the compensation used and the possible leakage occurred, that looks completely normal roll off for a open baffle dynamic with 100 Hz driver resonance.
I thought you were memeing about driver match. Anyway, you can boost bass through EQ or get HD650, at the same time HD6xx have best mids out of trio and that's where most of the music is at and the reason so many people chose them.
>HD6xx have best mids out of trio
It's identical to HD 650 of the same era.
Poorfags fuck off.
I'm looking at summit-fi headphones and I've narrowed it down to a couple choices.
>Focal Utopia
>Audeze LCD-4
>Stax SR-009
>Ether C Flow
>Abyss
I like the look of the Stax, but don't like fact that they need a separate box so I can't wear them outside to flex on all them pleb niggas.
I will purchase one of these in a couple of months, and give pics and impressions. I'm not yet wealthy enough to purchase an Orpheus, but I may in the next couple of years.
Looking for impressions for any of these.
Aren't HD 6XXs just HD 650s with a different name?
Always the first question, why these headphones? They are all over the place. Only uniting feature is the high price.
By 6xx I meant all 6-- series including 600 and 650/6xx altho I prefer female vocals on HD600.
Actually, without taking measured driver response discrepancy all of the trio start around 15 db.
Impedance vs freq curve is funky, so it needs an amp to sound right.
Because I'm done with mid-fi hell. I'm gonna buy a pair and fuck off from headphones until they break. I read the graphs and they all look like sound signatures that I would enjoy. Now I'm just looking for impressions from real people.
No HD800S?
Looks like a baitpost but I would rather go to your local hi-fi store and try as many as you can, at least Audjezie, Utopia and Stax. Also , those are very different headphones especially LCD 4.
Perhaps HD600?
Just no. Only thing to potentially worry about is the output impedance. Even that in moderation.
So what do you want here? Spend a lot? Get the best sound? Again, why those headphones?
Dumb poorfag
Those seem like mid-fi headphones to me, user.
1. Flex on niggas
2. Good sound
>Understanding the compensation used
you obviously dont understand it yourself. 20 hz is down by 11 db relative to 1 khz regardless of it being compensated or raw.
>and the possible leakage occurred
yeah, since it's averaged, the possible drop off from leakage effects should be even worse.
>you can boost bass through EQ
same applies to headphones that aren't poorly built and don't have mediocre comfort
Are IEMs allowed in hpg?
I have a set of Shure SE-215s. I like them, but the piece I'm pointing to in pic related is fraying. I'm holding it together with tape and it's unseemly.
I've also used the EPH-100 and liked them as well.
So I guess my question is, for about $150, what should I do? Buy another set of SE-215s or branch out to something different? What other IEMs are good in that price range?
Forgot pic because I'm retarded.
>I'm gonna buy a pair and fuck off from headphones until they break.
But DUUUUUUDE, do you have a proper amp and equipment for them? Here some options that you can see here eddiecurrent.com
Im gonna run them off my 2006 thinkpad.
HD600 owner. They're endgame, unless you're gonna spend over $1k or sidegrade to something actually worse.
>unlock potential
-_-
Any other headphones you own to compare them with?
I use cheapo HD201s.
The bass is non-existent.
>same applies to headphones that aren't poorly built and don't have mediocre comfort
Just because some people have an OCD to bend a headband doesn't mean that there is something wrong with a headphone build. On the other hand human ears are not circularly shaped, HD600 was made to actually fit human ears. HD600 line has best mids out of all open backs in that price range and that what matters the most, you don't see people requesting other open backs on massdrop anywhere near HD6xx.
Why don't you just replace the cable?
>Just because some people have an OCD to bend a headband doesn't mean that there is something wrong with a headphone build.
yeah and it's kevlar reinforced and made of titanium
>Mids matters most
I too prefer headphones with recessed bass and treble.
>2. Good sound
Personally I'd drop every single headphone off of that list then but I'm not you nor am I a psychic so I can't know what made you pick these five. They aren't alike.
>Utopia
Mid centric and overall warm tone, overly so in my opinion. Quite balanced sounding regardless and nice build quality. Better than Elear. Comfortable and sensitive, no need for amplifiers.
>LCD4
Worse version of their lower end open back LCD products for a higher price. Dark sounding, kind of like Utopia but with less midbass. Heavy, insensitive.
>SR-009
Same Stax house sound for much higher price tag. Very nice build. Mid forward, little tricky to seal right. You'll need some electrostatic amplifier, of course.
>Ether C Flow
The only closed back one you listed. Flow doesn't see to do anything better than the standard Ether and looks to perform worse some aspects. Haven't tried it and frankly I'm not very interested to either. It's sensitive, isolates some but the open back model for Ether Flow and Ether seem like a better choice all around. Sensitive, no need for amps.
>Abyss
Totally lackluster unless something has changed. Overly dark to the point of being muffled, heavy and ridiculously big. It's pretty low sensitivity too.
>2. Good sound
Personally I'd drop every single headphone off of that list then but I'm not you nor am I a psychic so I can't know what made you pick these five. They aren't alike.
>Utopia
Mid centric and overall warm tone, overly so in my opinion. Quite balanced sounding regardless and nice build quality. Better than Elear. Comfortable and sensitive, no need for amplifiers.
>LCD4
Worse version of their lower end open back LCD products for a higher price. Dark sounding, kind of like Utopia but with less midbass. Heavy, insensitive.
>SR-009
Same Stax house sound for much higher price tag. Very nice build. Mid forward, little tricky to seal right. You'll need some electrostatic amplifier, of course.
>Ether C Flow
The only closed back one you listed. Flow doesn't see to do anything better than the standard Ether and looks to perform worse some aspects. Haven't tried it and frankly I'm not very interested to either. It's sensitive, isolates some but the open back model for Ether Flow and Ether seem like a better choice all around.
>Abyss
Totally lackluster unless something has changed. Overly dark to the point of being muffled, heavy and ridiculously big. It's pretty low sensitivity too.
if only they were comfortable, they would be better received around here.
hehe
Hehehe :^)
People had them for years and years without issues, it's an old pair of headphones. I dropped them few times and nothing happened and thats pretty much enough for any sensible person.
Once again if you look at Tyll's measures ignoring measured chanel imbalance that appears on some measures while not on others, all of the trio starts around 15 db. As for treble, it's well extended and detailed enough without getting into your face. Different people have different sound preferences so this discussion is mildly pointless, but most of music happens in the midrange and that's how it is.
What's the easiest way to test out DACs and Amps for free or return them with little charge instead of deluding myself because of buyers remorse?
I'll prolly pick up a utopia and ether c then.
What about LCD X? Have you heard of them, other user. What would be your suggestion for an upgrade for someone who mostly cares about mids coming from HD600?
>I dropped them few times and nothing happened
damn, i finally see the light
BQ: 10 QC: 10 thanks sennheiser
just got the h6 at a discount. how did I do?
Is anything else in the $200-$250 range openback headphones worth looking at besides the HD600?
Finally payed for my Custom Art Ei.3's and i'll have them in around 5 weeks. I will give my impressions of them from the perspective of someone new to iems.
$200 HD 600s? Maybe not.
>damn, i finally see the light
>BQ: 10 QC: 10 thanks sennheiser
I don't even understand where you are at. If it will make you feel better my last 2 contestant when buying headphones were HD600 and DT800 and I consider them both to be a good but HD600 mids sealed it for me.
>$200 HD 600s
$225 used is good enough for me
>you obviously dont understand it yourself
I understand it very well.
>20 hz is down by 11 db relative to 1 khz regardless of it being compensated or raw.
Bass boost compensation lowers the amplitude below the elevated midbass a little more compared to other measurements posted in that pic.
>yeah, since it's averaged, the possible drop off from leakage effects should be even worse.
If rtings.com has a summarized average there, the plot we see here is somewhere between good seal and bad. It isn't far off from the usual so I'm going to guess no leakage to mind of.
>What would be your suggestion for an upgrade for someone who mostly cares about mids coming from HD600?
Caution, equalizer and as much knowledge as you are willing to put effort into researching. I hate thinking in upgrades because it generally doesn't work. Maybe Ether.