Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.
State the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA. If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price, or improve specs or build quality. List games or software you use if applicable and if you mostly stick to those. Use common sense and put some effort into your queries. GOOGLE IT FIRST
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com
>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice (which is pretty outdated/shit), Windows activation information. pastebin.com/F9diF2hA
>G4560 remains the best if your budget is only around $500. >The Ryzen 1700 is the only available Ryzen chip worth purchasing for any reason. >If you're building a PC with an i5, wait for Ryzen 5 to compare. Intel will probably edge Ryzen out in gaming. >i3 are no longer worth getting. >Locked i5s are a much better value than unlocked i5s and perform similarly, especially in games. >Consider only getting an SSD for what you planned to spend on an SSD+HDD. Add a HDD later once needed. >The only worthwhile gfx cards are the (1050ti outside of US), RX470 4GB, RX480 4/8GB, (1060 outside of USA), 1070, 1080, 1080Ti. >The cheapest way to build a PC is buying one part at a time as you see flash sales, not buying all parts at once. An entire build worth of good components will rarely be on sale all on the same day. >Don't feel bound to one specific brand/model of a component. Parametric filters on pcpartpicker can help with this, if your monkey brain can figure out how to use them.
If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with and report.
I'm not op, name stayed from another thread. idk why
Nolan Green
Tips on spreading thermal paste?
Easton James
Don't over-think it. Push out some paste, just enough that a small amount emerges from the tip. Press that tip down on your cpu like you are trying to write a period (full stop). Make five taps so that you are essentially drawing the number five on a dice. You don't need much paste. Thin is good. No need to spread it out. Just press your cooler down onto the paste and tighten the screws.
Jackson Bell
going to pick up this gigabyte ga-z170xp-sli for $85 from some dude, everything included. any insight on this board?
Grayson Phillips
Why bother? What's the sense in buying a Z170 for $85 in present year when there are new Z270 boards that cost just a bit more?
because I'm a budget mofo, and the other option is I go with a b250 board for roughly the same price.
David Baker
How can I know if my 7700k is truly achieving 4500mhz on single core boost? None of the programs to check temps etc have ever shown the mhz going over 4400 for my cores (I haven't OCd yet). Might be dumb question but please enlighten me. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#Desktop_processors
Blake Hughes
Looks good but small url it. And yeah, about the amount of thermal paste to use. Just like a pea, so it smashes down to a thin layer. Don't squiggle it around and get pockets of air in there. Also that anyone that's going to use the stock Ryzen cooler but overclock should consider replacing the stock thermal pad with thermal paste.
That's fine for $85.
Angel Robinson
Some things will be confusing for those that don't know shit. Like Sata cables and power cables for people that just have an M.2 drive that plugs in and that's it.
Luke Turner
Hey going to build a new rig with overclocking in mind. Is there anything I should look out for in a motherboard? Any recommendations for a z270 board around 200$ are welcome
Elijah Johnson
I want a hard drive dedicated for porn and the other dedicated for gaming. If I install windows on both of them, and just swap them as needed, it should technically work, right?
Nolan Jones
you didn't say whether mATX or ATX.
Justin Peterson
When did you realize that micro atx is literally the best size? >ATX >You're never going to use 7 3.5" harddrive slots >ITX >limited PciE slots for future expandabity
Henry Jones
ATX
Gavin Hall
ASRock Taichi is good if you don't mind how it looks.
Otherwise just pick any that has at least 8-phase VRMs and has PCI slots where you want them and the features (software, audio, etc) that you want. You can look for z270 motherboard reviews too.
Eli Gonzalez
What is the best AM4 mATX board available right now?
Matthew Turner
>When did you realize that micro atx is literally the best size When I stopped considering SLI/CF, stopped needing a network card and other sorts of cards. And with 2.5" HDDs existing for decent prices, you can fit 4 of them in the space of a standard one if you really need that much storage. And when I realized my Corsiar 500R has so much useless un-utilized space and I could get a better aesthetic with a smaller case.
It's actually pretty sad looking at this huge thing by my desk. I'll get a mATX board for Ryzen, but won't be actually changing to a smaller case for a bit.
Kayden Barnes
Gigabyte Gaming 3 and MSI Mortar
Hopefully ASRock releases their Extreme 4 B350 soon. Their Taichi and Pro 4 are really good.
Nicholas Anderson
Will these boards fully utilise a spare set of 3200mhz ram i have already? I heard there were problems with ram frequencies with ryzen?
Jaxon Diaz
Oh oops. The Pro 4 is mATX. So that one, too. (though all the display ports on it is pretty silly... though useful for those that want triple monitor on Raven Ridge)
I've been hoping for dual PCIe 4x M.2 on a board too, but meh.
The Gigabyte has dual BIOS. MSI has better audio. They all have 4 pin fan headers and two PCIe slots.
No 3200mhz RAM that was validated to work for Intel XMP is guaranteed to work with Ryzen unless validated on the platform. It could downgrade to 2933 or 2800.
I'm looking for second and third opinions for my build:
Would anyone here be able to do a build on part picker with a $1,000 budget? I want to use the build mainly for video editing and music making software. It would seriously be appreciated for any help. I really don't know what to decide on. Thank you in advance.
I know people litter these threads with stuff like this but I'm about to make a serious career change and do independent work so it's a bit stressful to choose but I need options before I spend my tax return.
Andrew Thompson
That's what I was saying >it's just the automation software that outputs does that shit fucked up. The box is the picture of the one that comes with a cooler. It's just listed wrong as "no cooler" on the 7700 one even though it has the stock one, almost surely.
If you get the k, you need a more expensive motherboard and a cooler better than that 212 evo to get the most of it.
You can also run the 6700k with a cheap cooler on a no-overclocking board like the locked 7700. That might be your best option for slightly more money since the 6700k is 4.0/4.2 and the 7700k is 3.6/4.2. You at least save on a cheaper motherboard and not needing an actual good cooler that way.
Leo Rodriguez
Is 7700k or 6900k better with 1080ti for 4k gaming?
Jackson Sanders
I was actually thinking of the ASRock Z270 Killer. With a CRYORIG H5 cooler, would that be good?
Ryder Thomas
why is 6700k more expensive than 7700k? Isn't 7700k better?
Andrew Lopez
Is this bait? g4560 is fine for 4K in most games. A Ryzen 5 1500X would be fine just to be extra safe and make sure you don't drop under 60 in anything.
if you're getting a Z270 board, you never should have been considering the locked 7700. Yes, that board and cooler are good.
Kevin Campbell
That was 6700k and 7700 not 7700k.
Jeremiah Ross
Hmm i7-6700k it is then.
>if you're getting a Z270 board, you never should have been considering the locked 7700. w-why?
Jayden White
it's not turned on dewvon.
Josiah Diaz
... because you need a Z270 board to overclock. And the 7700 non-k can't be overclocked. The "k" stands for "unlocked".
Yes, it's confusing as shit and makes no sense. Which is why AMD has all theirs unlocked and just requires the better boards for overclocking.
Caleb Thomas
This is a build I've come with after looking around on craigslist.
>This is a build I've come with after looking around on craigslist. >Is this worth building and reselling? lmao
Angel Roberts
No, I know it couldn't be overclocked. I wasn't going to. I was just getting that board for some of its features. The overclockability was a bonus, for future upgrades.
I'm tempted to get the i7-7700k now, since it's only $26 more than the i7-6700k. But I feel I might be needlessly bloating my builds price.
Jacob Cook
What is on that board that you need? You can get a B250 or B350 board with 2 PCI lanes, 2 m.2 (1 4x 1 1x), and 5+1 audio for $85.
$140 isn't exactly cheap. That tends to be the minimum price for a decent Z270. It seems like your cost is already needlessly inflated, to me.
Asher Murphy
Is the stock cooler provided with the i5-7500 sufficient or should I pick up an aftermarket cooler like the Hyper 212?
Landon Gray
stock is fine if you have a case fan or two and it's not some cramped mITX.
Consider Ryzen, though.
Ian Torres
>i5 in 2017 >Memer 212 ever
Gabriel Perry
>stock is fine if you have a case fan or two and it's not some cramped mITX. Thank you.
>Consider Ryzen, though. I guess I should have included a bit of extra info there. A friend recently offered me his i5-7500+MSI Z270-A PRO board for $100 since he just purchased a Ryzen 7.
Camden Fisher
sell those and get Ryzen 5 before the used market drops, obviously. There's still people that can get scammed out of pretty high prices for that stuff. You might even be able to get almost the whole $250 that'd cover cost of Ryzen 5, since people somehow think an i5 is worth $200.
Leo Young
Pls help :/
Adrian Davis
If you're getting a H5 and don't plan on OCing (based on what you said afterwards) don't worry about your 7700k overheating. I have a H7 on clock speed and I never go over 65 on load. It stays around 50 playing Dolphin emulated games.
Landon Perry
You were given a build in the last thread with $200 to spare. Start there and modify it better to suit your needs if need be.
Jason Butler
Sorry man. I have about zero knowledge on what's good and what's shit. I wouldn't have the slightest clue about doing any of that. I'll stop shitting up the thread though.
Christopher Rogers
I specifically need a board with built in wi-fi. The capacity for 4 RAM sticks was a bonus, but I only need 2 right now.
Would a MSI H270I GAMING PRO AC be a better substitute? It is about $44 cheeper. It would offset the price of the H5.
I don't I will be OCing it soon, so that's good to hear.
Jayden Ross
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Angel Wilson
Just make sure to undervolt as your mobo will probably have stupid voltage on stock settings.
Hudson Carter
>I specifically need a board with built in wi-fi. I'd go with the Asus Z270-FuckingKillYourself.
Chase Ross
>MSI H270I GAMING PRO AC Yes, if it has all the features you need. I see nothing wrong with it. That board obviously doesn't support overclocking. You've obviously spending too much on a cooler then if you're not going to overclock.
Justin Peterson
put a glob in the center about the size of a pea, secure heatsink, done
Nicholas Gutierrez
>not posting the msi webm you had one job
Carson Howard
Bad advice general?
Benjamin Smith
Oh holy shit. I just noticed what this is and how stupid it is.
A pea in the middle or line over where the die is, if you know it's a long die and its orientation like is good. But even for long dies like Ryzen, a line hardly matters. The heatspreader spreads stuff out sufficiently.
Wyatt Stewart
I prefer to do things the Corsair way. Slap 10x too much on while drizzling it over the socket, smear it out to get it nice and full of air bubbles, then slap some overengineered water cooling on it and call it good.
Just fucking look at it. Look at it and weep. Now imagine what it's going to look like underneath that water block.
Josiah Reyes
>NIggers
Christopher Cruz
It LITERALLY does not matter at all. Some webpage tested like 15 different ways of applying thermal paste and all results were within margin of error. As long as you put the gunk in middle of the heatspreader it'll spread evenly as you tighen the screws of your cooler.
Connor Lee
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Luke Adams
So doesn't this mean that the pea sized drop in the center is superior since it involves the least waste and reduces the risk of getting paste on the traces/pins?
Thomas Taylor
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Benjamin Martin
Holy shit. No matter how many times I see this it still makes me physically uncomfortable. Still keep expecting him to smash an egg on there like that youtube dude.
Eli Lopez
I need a Dell monitor that looks just like the one in the picture but that's 16:9 and has a resolution between 900p and 1080p; 75hz refresh rate would be cool also. I plan to place them together but i'm too autistic to buy a monitor that looks different.
E176fpf is pic's model
Hunter Bell
why does xmp make my 7700k reach 90c
Nicholas Thompson
This can't be official.
Landon Reyes
ayy
Just started up my new build for the first time and was dumb enough to click "EZ tuning" in the UEFI. This must have made some kind of overclocking, everything went unstable and constantly started crashing, windows install failed and etc. I went back to default setting and everything seems fine now. Hope I didn't hurt some component?
What is the absolute best Mobo+RAM combo for Ryzen? I'm looking for the best speeds and timings. Money is no object.
James Campbell
Nobody knows. What might be true now will change with the next BIOS update, and that won't be long. Things are going to be uncertain for a while.
Best advice would be to get a premium X370 board from one of the big names to guarantee timely BIOS updates. some fast Samsung b-die RAM, then strap in and hope for the best. Ive heard a lot of people having good luck with G.Skill Trident stuff fwiw.
Jonathan Lewis
Looks good, but you know you're going to get >i5ed. Consider stepping up to an i7 or looking at Ryzen when it hits next week. Dump Windows 10 home and get a Pro key for a fraction of the price from kinguin or similar.
Hudson Johnson
Is SuperBizz a reliable seller? Buying a CPU from them.
Jonathan Moore
>Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit >$135 Nigga what?
Consider a bigger SSD if your Steam account is looking hench. Consider a cheaper Z270 board - don't know aus prices but that seems a lot and for what benefit? Consider not being a fucking idiot and buying an i5 in 2017.
Nice case but lose the window. Nobody over the age of 14 wants to look at your guts. If you must have a window look at other case options because tempered glass is everywhere yet Fractal Designs insist on cheap acrylic shit.
Jace Perry
lol @ all the people complaining about i5's when most people here wouldn't even be able to make use of all of an i3
Joseph Powell
4c/4t/2017
You're going to have to do better than that to earn your shekels.
Robert Allen
What are a good set of 140mm fans?
Nicholas Jones
before ryzen came out with 8c/16t everyone recommended i5's for an i5/16gb/1070 build.
but now ryzen is out (and isn't very impressive despite the details) and everyone hates i5's
Jaxon Morales
Yes
Liam Hughes
i5 might still have a place in certain budget gaming builds. Possibly. Maybe. You'd be a certified moron to buy one in the next couple of weeks, though.
Nicholas Foster
Shiet I didn't even see that I had Windows in my build.
Which of the i7's is the least meme-tier now? Kaby?
Bentley Ramirez
i5s were being recommended in mid-tier gaming rigs because there really wasn't another sanely priced option.
Muh single-threaded performance meme is becoming more and more untrue as time goes on and things are not about to get LESS parallelized. Sacrificing single thread performance and getting 95fps instead of 107fps in current titles is starting to look a lot better a proposition than facing the stuttering disasters you see when your cores choke on heavily threaded stuff. Also: Stop comparing average framerates. When everything is 'good enough' it's the lows that are going to hurt you.
The average use case is changing too. People are running multi-monitor setups and doing more in the background, people are streaming, etc.
There was a time when people would recommend a highly clocked i3 over an i5. Look how that worked out. The i5 is the new i3.
Isaiah Clark
is Z270 the one to get?
Asking for a friend
Aiden Brown
Pretty much comes down to a 7700-non K on B250, finding a lucky deal on a 6700K, or ponying up the big shekels for a 7700K. Might be worth waiting to see what effect the new Ryzens have on the market even if you're dead set on intel.
Z270 if you're running an unlocked K processor, B250 for everything else. H270 is a useless middle ground in 99% of situations.
Daniel Campbell
Is it worth getting spending $50 more dollars for a 480 over the 470?
Can I have some benchmarks please?
Robert Turner
thanks user
Colton Martin
Are you me? I have to make the same decision in a couple of minutes. I'm on a budget so I'm probably getting the 470.
Brayden Morales
Also, will prices on the RX 400 series drop any significant amount with the release of the RX 500 series?
Kevin Reyes
>until ryzen 5 disappoints just as much as ryzen 7 did
OK, adjustments made on CPU, cooling, case, mouse etc. PSU wattage might be a little high (although I'm obviously going to OC first thing) - what do you guys think? Also z270 prices here in Aus are absolute bullshit hence the AR (which is 10 cheaper than the A I believe).
Also gonna take user's advice and wait until after the AMD release I think
Wyatt Kelly
They're pretty close in terms of performance, about 5-10fps difference in most games at 1080p and both are pretty solid choices. Only concern would be the chance that those frames might make a difference as stuff gets pushed a bit harder, but future proofing just isn't going to happen at this tier, and push the clock on the 470 a bit and they really are within pissing distance of eachother.
Personally I'd go for the cheaper of the rx480 or gtx1060 if budget allowed just because it would probably niggle at me if I didn't, but if dosh is tight then the 470 might be your answer.
It's a possibility but the brand-new retail prices for older GPUs don't always drop nearly as much as you'd expect. It's going to come down to how long you're willing to wait before pulling the trigger. Not sure we have a concrete date for the 500s yet do we?
Kevin Rivera
>it's the lows that are going to hurt you >stuttering
I own a 6700k with a GTX1080 and I ran it through several benchmarks when I first put everything together, to check for stability. One thing I noticed was that the the FPS dipped was when it was transitioning from a loading screen or switching scenes, but stayed consistent everywhere else. Same thing in games like Fallout 4 or Witcher 3, the only time the FPS dipped was coming out of a loading screen. In-game there were no dips that were worth noting, and the FPS always stayed high.
Now someone else might come along with some other anecdotal bit, but that was my experience. Posters on Sup Forums make it seem like you're going to have the worst experience ever with a 4c/8t CPU, but before Ryzen came out there wasn't a single person who mentioned this because it's obviously not an issue.
Camden Perry
desu i'm only interested in the price. at ~$250 AUD it'll be $100 AUD cheaper than the 7700k
Aaron Ramirez
Nice to see we're back to the OP that 90% of new posters don't read.
Jaxson Ward
>pull the trigger and buy the NH-D15 SE AM4 >mounting it on the intel socket is a piece of cake >want to attach 3rd fan I had lying around >realize there's only 2 sets of mounting brackets I've seen more than one triple fan setup, how do they do this? Can I order the brackets somewhere? Or did they salvage them from a different cooler? The Noctua cooler I had before has different brackets that won't work. Not that it would make a difference, but I have an NF-A15 PWM fan lying around and a vacant CPU fan header.
