Should white Americans pay reparations to black Americans?

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Should white Americans (or the American government) pay reparations to black Americans for the slavery and segregation that happened in the past?

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The question is not if, bu when this will happen.

Fuck off with that race baiting shit, scandinigger.

No, i repeat the question is: SHOULD it happen and why
it's a discussion

No. Nobody alive today was a slave.


Should I be sent to jail because my father murdered someone?

1. yes
2. because it's funny

shut up jewnigger im not baiting im just starting a discussion

You know pretty well where this discussion will lead to and what kind of people it will attract so fuck off.

The issue is who gets the money. Only the descendants of slaves but ALL black people? About 10% of black Americans are descended directly from recent Caribbean or African immigrants. In addition, black people are not the only group victimized by the US.

Reparations are an understandable idea that would do a lot of good, but equity can be achieved through less crude and less difficult memes. Just focus on black unemployment and education.

So by that logic you think it would be fair that you should pay reparations to Isreal and jews just because of your nationality

Yes so I can force more cuck memes

How Black do you need to be to get reparations?

Where will it lead? and who will it attract? I dont understand you i'm just curios about people's opinion on this topic so stfu

no
give moneys to Ireland instead, we will keep it safe from this "reparations" jewish trickery

Gas yourself

>implying they aren't

I am Greek -black

It'll lead to a massive shitstorm filled with Sup Forumsacks that'll post huge unsourced infograms about blacks. The german gave you the right answer which any developed human being can come up with if he'll think about it a couple of minutes.

Shoot yourself while clapping, wearing shoes in your house and drinking from red cups, burgerman.

No, in the same way Germans don't need to give me or my family reparations for the Holocaust.

Yes. It would bring closure and could possibly repair mistrust between black and white Americans.

And it's not purely about slavery. It's about the government's blatant mistreatment of blacks for the majority of American history including Jim Crow and segregation.

It's what's owed in my opinion, for the centuries of free labor provided on behalf of blacks. They're survivors of a genocide.

Stop trying to censor people you filthy scum
If you think that's the right answer come with your arguments, this is a discussion

yes it's called welfare lad

slavery ended way back in the 18th century hence why no living blacks ever experienced it, the only reason why germans pay Israel reparations is because there are holocaust survivors that are still living to this day that did experienced it and managed to survive, and the israeli government is in charge of giving them this money. another reason why the german government pays reparations is because the german government at the time was responsable for the things that happend because they were in direct control over them and they signed the laws, on the contrary the U.S government did not - it was just a free market where people sold black as property and the government didn't had any direct involvement in that market up untill the civil war.

Slavery ended in the 19th century and was quickly followed by stringent racial laws that confined most blacks to indentured servitude.

Also, theres plenty of black Americans alive from the segregation era when the government actively marginalized them from society.

>the government had no role
It purposely created laws to exclude blacks from basic human rights and declared them 3/5 human.

>wanting money for somebody else's work

Sounds like a nigger to me.

Their reputations are all the Union soldiers that died for those ungrateful niggers

Unless they're direct decendents of southern land owners who profited off black slaves there is absolutely no reason why whites should owe blacks anything other than basic respect.

Respect is earned.

Admiration is earned. I give a basic amount of politeness or respect to everyone I interact with unless they do something to make me not respect them. I'm not going to just walk up to a black guy, assume he's some ghetto thug and call him a nigger.

Since you're talking about the redistribution of "government" funds,
Why not model the change you seek and donate your income tax returns to the NAACP?
This presumes, of course, that you are gainfully employed, and pay into the system.

Of course

Most of those posting under the US flag on Sup Forums, are self-hating whites, and progressive millennials of the following type who support reparations to African Americans:

youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw

>Be descendant of Irish slaves
>oppressed all through history until 50 years ago
>Oy Vey goyim better pay up!

What the fuck do people from now have to do with people from the past.

Are you live in medieval era?

Black Americans should pay a "thank you" tax to white Americans, for allowing them to exist.

White Americans were vastly superior at surviving and life in general, and to the victor go the spoils. You are entitled to nothing in life. Everything must be earned, everything must be worked for.

White Americans worked. They worked science, they worked guns, they worked chains, they built ships, and reality rewarded them because to the victor go the spoils.

Survival is the only objectively moral good, and strength is a huge part of it, and white Americans had more of it than black Americans, and black Americans should be thankful for the mercy and the fact they exist.

how would "reperations" even work?

People already pay loads of tax which gets funneled into that black hole

Would it be a lump sum?
A continuous endless new tax were every negro gets bonus welfare?
20 acres and a donkey?

We have this kind of discussion here as well. It's stupid. White people from today has nothing to do with actions from white people from the past.

Such concept of 'historical debt' (as they call it here) is quite stupid.

Of course not.
My great-grandparents were dirt-poor German and Irish settlers (muh heritage) who never owned slaves. Why should I pay someone "back" something I never got in the first place?

Only the richest 2% of the population had slaves

>reparation
Nope, I don't really see any reasons for it

Yes because the one thing I need is more white guilt in my life.

As an actual african i think this whole thing is retarted. Why do those amerifucks think they deserve anything. Should i hound portugal for reparations for what they did in Angola, no i would rather kill that fucker who's sitting as president cause he's doing more harm to the country now.

They should live in the now and try to improve themselves. But who am i kidding the average is murican is already a retard who is oblivious to the outsideworld

Wealth is generational.

There is a nugget of truth in saying that being in some old WASP family brings you tons of advantages by the sheer fact that your ancestors had time to amass wealth for many generations.

Niggers descendant from slaves didn't have that luxury. For a big part of American history even after being freed, being a nigger was actually detrimental to your success and would block you from many potential paths to life.

That said, niggers today have no one but themselves to blame for their poor economic situation. Asians also came to America dirt poor, and the 1st generation worked shitty manual labour jobs but their culture puts a heavy pressure to be successful on their kids. That's why they managed to get into high paying American jobs like medicine and engineering to the point that they outearn whites on average.

Don't really care about nigs, but under your logic if I beat you up and take your money, I should be entitled to keep it because I'm stronger and spent time learning how to fight?

This is essentially how Serbia has functioned as a society for centuries.

Yes, anglos in general should suffer for everything they did to the world, not only black people.

Essentially, yes. I would call the police than and they would beat you up, and the cycle of beating people up goes on...

All authority in the world comes from violence, dont want to sound edgy but if you brake laws of some state, that state sends its police/army to do violence on you, and that's how authority happens.
Authority really is, just violence. And whether this authority/violence is "moral" or whatever, it essentially does not even matter, for if you have more of it, you are 'right' because you can just force your authority over the opposition.

We may all be polite and pretend and bullshit around, but when it actually starts to matter, all legality/morality/whatever, it all comes from violence. USA 'spreads democracy' with predator drone missiles in case you forgot.

Just look at his flag, beating and robbing is the norm in their society

if everyone was given a single silver spoon, and you jumped forward 10 years, 20-30 jews and about 6-10 irish, along with 1-2 anglos would have all the spoons and negroes would be rioting saying how 'all dey spoons was stole by whitey' and you'd have a bunch of fjordniggers asking fucktarded questions about it on Sup Forums while swimming in pools of north sea crude

Is the reparation a Bullet in the head ?

I'll kill myself before I pay for actions I never committed against people who aren't alive anymore.

just a reminder

They quite literally already do. Many live on the taxpayers dime.

for real? where?

How black is black enough?

If I were to look back in my history and find out my greatx7grandmother was a coalburner does that mean I get those gibsmedats?

Leftists, mostly. Sadly, I have some in my FB.
Sometimes it appears in news as well.

First of all:

Why should anybody pay reperations for his ancestors sins?

Second it was legal at the time but less than 2% of white Americans had slaves back than.

Third what is going to happen when a white/black person has ancestors who had slaves and were slaves?

Fourth: And all whites? there are more han 40 million white americans who have german heritage meaning their ancestors arrived after slavery was ended.
8 million Americans have polish ancestors, poland never had colonies and never participated in slave trade.

Close this thread l, this whole reparations shit is cancer and fucking stupid. Fuck you america

>Sup Forums

Why the fuck is the rest of the world allowed to have an opinion on American slavery and its results?

Rule of law comes out of violence you swarthy moor, how do you think police enforces law, with happy thoughts and rainbows?

Fucking moors, I swear..

Only 2% of the US population owned slaves. And in return their ancestors were allowed to exist in a first world country and receive the benefits of western civilization and culture that had been built up over centuries, and eventually be able to exert their influence on that culture. As opposed to living half-naked in Africa.

Whites (British Empire) heavily incentivized the ending of slavery worldwide after millennia of the practice.

>mfw a turkish rapebaby gives me a (You)

*Descendants

>Should white Americans (or the American government) pay reparations to black Americans for the slavery and segregation that happened in the past?

No.

People who are completely unrelated to something should not be forced to pay for some thing.

Besides, a very small portion of White Americans owned slaves(only the top few percent), it wasn't really that common.

Furthermore, Africans had a huge role in the slave trade to the United States and it existed before it came to the US and after it was abolished.


Just like we don't ask all Muslims in the US to pay a tax for reparations of the World Trade Center being destroyed on September 11th

Don't post about shit you don't understand, Vladimir Rabinovich

their women are already paying reparation :^)

i always stand for niggas but no. its about as ridiculous as it gets.

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>Discussion:
>Should white Americans (or the American government) pay reparations to black Americans for the slavery and segregation that happened in the past?

No, and not for moral but for practical reasons. For one, it would be ineffective in closing the wealth gap. It has been shown time and time again that people who have low wealth oftentimes are less wealthy because they live beyond their means and do not save or invest wisely. To generate wealth, you have to keep it, but handing a population that is predominantly poor a big handout like this will not make a dent in their poverty level and I don't care what race you are, that's just a fact.

Two, there are about 40 million black people in the US and to given them all 100,000usd would cost 4 trillion usd, or ~8x our military budget. That's for 100k, a sum small enough that it would be spent in 6 months by many.

So you'd be massively inflating our deficit at huge burden to the tax payer for little to no positive outcome. Money wont address the wrongs of the past, and it isn't the governments job to be wrapped up in moral issues.

Instead, there should be more programs to help people in poverty build wealth on their own. Better access to community colleges, more freedom in school choice, and less incarceration of young adults. Just implementing these three things will do much more than any reparations will.

Based slav gets it

Footlocker on Black Friday?

So you think it should be easier for someone to get into college if they have a dark skin color?

>little to no positive outcome
Well, it WOULD cause a slight boom in the grape drink, sports jersey, celebrity-endorsed sneaker and bail bond industries.

They already do this shit and of course it just devalues education.
They have also gradual lowered the standards in all public schools so the minority kids don't all fail.
We are at the point where kids who can barely read are graduating high school.

the day my money goes to a nigger for reparations is the day my AR 15 bullets also go to a nigger for reparations

I never said anything about affirmative action at all. Nor did i bring up University education.

Policies targeted at a specific racial group are ineffective and racist themselves. Look at how many people let in due to affirmative action end up dropping out before graduation, or who do worse than their peers. It's not about race, but moreso that they were let into a better school than otherwise would have been possible and are academically low on the totem pole, whereas if they went to a worse but more appropriate school for their achievement level they would have a better educational outcome. There are stats to support this.

No, I think vocational programs and community college should either be free or reduced in price depending on your income level, not your race.

As far as University goes, I think fewer people overall should be attending. Wild government loans need to stop and schools need to once again be forced to compete for students by keeping competitive prices. Less people should go to college and more should recieve practical or vocational educations in nursing, IT work, or maintenance work.

Affirmative action should not occur with federally funded grants, but I think it's fine for a private grant to do so. Similarly, public schools should not consider race when selecting applicants, but if private schools want to that should be allowed.

>So you think it should be easier for someone to get into college if they have a dark skin color?

The color of your skin should have no influence on your college admission.

Why is Race even added? Just only include the person's credentials and GPA, you don't even need to show their name or anything.

Anything else is simply racist, either in favor of blacks or against them(or any other group).

You don't apologize for the past, you learn from it.

Ohh what a shame
I mean in a way blacks already had reparations. Because if their ancestors weren't enslaved they would have lived much worse lives in Africa

But they already do
Its called welfare

''Better access to community colleges,'' umm yes you did
and now you say you think fewer should attend college . I don't think that would happen if people got better acces to college

Lmao the party that gives blacks reparation money will never win another election

Yeah and the reparations should be a one way ticket back to Africa. Act like an animal et treated like one.

Only the dixies
The north actually fought for the liberation of slaves, so i dont see how anybody could blame them for slavery.

Better access for people who otherwise can't afford it but not because they are black.

Community College and university education in the US are separate entities. It's not a contradiction to want more people in community college and less in the debt generating machine of Upper academia.

Being black should not give you a free ticket to college
Here in Denmark when we attend university we don't say anything about our race and the university couldn't care less whether we are black, yellow, white or blue. and the government pays for the education

What about the white people who are transniggers? They made the very brave step to become black and should also receive some reparations.

Only the former confederate states should pay reparations.

PS: pay reparations for viking damage asshole

why

lol

Agreed
Dane pigs should pay reperations to Iceland for centuries of oppression, slavery and for literally forcing my people into poverty
Pigfucks should pay reperations for their bullshit before turning around and demanding other people to do it.

No danes are forcing anyone to pay reparations?
Calm down your autism snownigger
btw there haven't been slavery on Iceland? what would the purpose be lol

Danish pigs were so cruel they even killed our old people and fucking toddlers.

You looted our monasteries, raped religious women and acted like total scum. Even current historical books and webpages refer to you as the scum from the north in several colorful terms.

Pay reparations you Danish piece of crap!

Actually we're already paying reparations. we pay for your danish lessons muahaha

no

hahahahaha

I'm serious. Do you think there is a limit on how far reparations go?

Epigenetics studies prove that today's Belgians have been severely damaged psychologically because of inherited memories from your filthy savage ancestors.

historytoday.com/tim-stanley/belgiums-heart-darkness
If your opinion is that random people should pay reparations to someone because of something someone else did, you can send your money to these people lol

>we pay for your danish lessons muahaha
Proofs?

>No danes are forcing anyone to pay reparations?
OP is Dane fuck demanding americucks whites pay jigaboos reperation money for slavery.
>btw there haven't been slavery on Iceland? what would the purpose be lol
Yes there was
>what would the purpose be lol
To syphon every fucking penny from my land you greedy fucks
You faggots embargoed my country for centuries, forcefully took all our ships so we were liteally unable to leave the country and made it so that literally the only people that could buy and sell shit were Danish pig merchants.

dude idc.
No dane alive today did anything of what you're talking about
the vikings lived like 1000 years ago, what they did was just the norm back then lol