Africans and Muslims:
>we were oppressed by colonizers who put us in this mess
>HAHA FUCKING NIGGER THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH COLONIALISM THEY GAVE ROADS N SHEIT THEY SHOWED YOU CIVILIZATION
Eastern Europeans:
>we were oppressed by soviets who put us in this mess
>you're right, those Russians destroyed your once great nations. Seriously, have those Russian fuckers ever improved anything? I feel bad for Eastern Europeans, it's not your fault at all.
Great post Trudeau.
I agree, we should stop with the Russophobia and admit Russia did great things for this world, civilizing millions of savage chinks. Thank you Russia for being so based.
>russia
>good
Fuck off Marxist fag
...
>Russia
>civilized
Pick one.
russia wasn't necessary for those countries to develop
in fact, they slowed everything down
now fuck off trudeau
>Implying he isn't right
thats not how you write ''ottoman empire''.
eastern europeans just love to blame their uselessness to their former overlords
They're one and the same.
reuters.com
East Europeans wary of Russia diplomatic thaw after Paris attacks
TALLINN/VILNIUS | By David Mardiste and Andrius Sytas
"There cannot be bargaining over compliance of the (ceasefire) conditions," Estonian Prime Minister Taavi Roivas said, insisting the deal must be fulfilled to the last letter. "Cooperation elsewhere does not mean for Europe concessions in its neighborhood," he told parliament on Tuesday.
"The Russian-made crisis in Ukraine cannot disappear from the agenda," Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkevicius said in an interview with BNS news agency, published on Monday after a meeting of EU foreign ministers in Brussels.
"Geopolitically, Russia has a great opportunity to play a geopolitics game and come out of isolation," said Laurynas Kasciunas, head of Eastern Europe Studies Centre in Vilnius. "A great challenge to European unity is ahead of us."
"The Ukrainian crisis is like a suitcase without a handle – neither Europe nor the United States can walk away from it," said Volodymyr Fesenko, an analyst at Kiev's Penta political research center.
foxnews.com
What happens if your army of hate-filled crazies gets upstaged by another army of hate-filled crazies? Apparently you go nuts—ideally in pubic. At least that’s what the racialists of Black Lives Matter movement did when ISIS terrorists in Paris went on a killing spree last Friday.
Rather than sympathize with those were actually oppressed in Paris by rampaging jihadists, Black Lives Matter aficionados took to Twitter with the hashtag, “#F***Paris.” Such was the degree of upset that an attack on a NATO ally might temporarily distract the stream of liberal politicians pandering to the cop-hating Black Lives Matter movement.
Ironically the Soviets developed Eastern Europe substantially more than Westerners developed Africa, excepting Bohemia and Hungary, which were pretty well-developed before the war and were never ravaged by the Nazis.
Postwar development of Eastern Europe would probably have still happened under capitalism, but the models of Japan, Korea, and obviously Russia show that central planning is much better for industrializing shitholes that nobody would invest in.
How many Poles move to Russia and ask for handouts because of suffering they never experienced because they weren't fucking alive when it happened?
How many Poles have killed Russians in the past decade because they believe Russia should bend the knee to the pope?
Is Poland still dependent on aid from Russia?
What about Africa and the Middle East? Where are their Poland-tier economic recoveries?
Poland is a shithole because of communism, Africa is a shithole because of Africans. Proof: Poland is steadily improving after having thrown off the shackles of communism. Africa is steadily declining after being handed independence on a fucking silver platter. Hell, in the French colonies they were given freedom through referendum. They could've chosen to stay part of France's empire, and they chose poorly. Now they're establishing their own empire in France and steadily making a once great country shit.
Yeah what about Estonia, Lativia, Serbia, Lithuania...fucking idiot. The Poland of the Middle-East? UAE is substantially better than Poland in every economic regard. Same with Qatar and Bahrain.
That's objectively false, africa is a shithole because of the base conditions it had for developpement :
A) The temperature
B)The jungles
C) The flora, mainly the flora
If you look at a map you'll see that every modern civilizations emerged from places with AT LEAST crops that were next to eatable and most of all, useable for the man back then, namely places with blé, orge, millet (i don't know the tl for those) such as egypt, china, iran, etc...
Second of all these crops must have be able to be stockpiled, even if a crop such as potatoes or manioc (which is what they cultivate in northern africa) is better at feeding a tribe if it cannot be stockpiled there cannot be any accumulation of wealth and thus no hierachy within the tribe and thus no class, no leading class, no coherent society.
And even with such a crop you'd still have to spent a good centhury before it became comparable to what we have today, without proper selecting tomatoes for example used to be poisonous and disgusting
Taking into accounts those factors you'll see the modern african is only a tiny factor in the lack of developpment of his surrounding. Would it help if he was smarter, less violent, maybe not muslim ? Yes, surely but that is not the CAUSE in itself, it may even be a consequence, since a society is also an environnement,like the jungle, and thus guides evolution.
Source: persee.fr
and some article i read while at the doctor.
>Yeah what about Estonia, Lativia, Serbia, Lithuania
Same story bruh.
>The Poland of the Middle-East? UAE is substantially better than Poland in every economic regard. Same with Qatar and Bahrain.
Yeah, just look at this diverse and dynamic economy of theirs! It's not like they're not-shit because they're literally sitting on top of black gold or anything.
Now look at yourself Pajeet. If your country wasn't shit, you wouldn't be living in Canada.
All of that correct... but how does this play a role in the modern world with its modern resources? Trade and technology have made previously uninhabitable parts of the world highly habitable. Your own homeland went from 2 million inhabitants to 40 million under French rule.
Perhaps those environmental factors influenced African evolution, making them intellectually inferior to Europeans whose survival was dependent on intelligence?
Russians came into perfectly fine countries and fucked them up. Its not even comparable you retard, there was nothing positive about communism, in fact many countries deal with the effects to this day
>Russians came into perfectly fine countries
archive.is
The dirtyish past of pure Estonians
Though a word for «toilet» was present in an Estonian dictionary as early as 1660, the studies by students into early Republic of Estonia farmhouses reveal the absence of such in many. Folks that had one not always used the opportunity.
«The pathway leading to the loo was often quite overgrown» – is what, in early 1920ies, a student discovered at a Lääne County farmstead.
According to Estonian Open Air Museum science chief Heiki Pärdi, Estonian farmers started building toilets in the 19th century, but the folks were slow to get the habit of using these daily. «During the German occupation in 1918, the military men were quite forceful in insisting that each farmhouse have a loo,» said he.
In case of failure to build a loo, a threat of court-martial loomed. That worked, and toilets abounded. «Still, often, there were rarely used,» admitted the scientist. Wide open spaces, and cow-houses and barns in winter, were used.
Free to pee
Even between the world wars, the toilet-going habit was not widespread in the countryside. As discovered by the students, village folks found building toilets a waste of time and effort, as whatever came out later seemed to disappear anyhow. Also: toilets tended to stink.
According to official data, the inter-war Estonian countryside had toilets up to 50 per cent, on average; Viljandi, Pärnu and Tartu Counties leading the pack. «In South-Estonia, it was more advanced, North and West were poor and fell behind,» explained Mr Pärdi.
Information of existing yet unused loos points to as late as 1930ies. Mr Pärdi points to a lady’s memoirs of her father, building a modern house (inside loo and all) in a suburb of Tallinn – never personally visiting the facility.
«First: to let the good stuff fall waste... Second: a man’s tender hears would not survive the smell,» remembered the lady.
As today, highways hedged with men with trousers down, 90 years back public peeing was nothing to be ashamed of. Ladies – possessing no underwear – did it standing, sheltered by wide skirts. Squatting was looked down upon.
The loo avoidance was not all. With soap and water, Estonians of old were not friends. «Faces are not washed daily. Mostly, this is for Sunday morns, or sauna days,» the students of the 1920ies tell us.
Feet were washed even more rarely. Mostly, however, it was just the sauna – once a week.
«In towns, the things with cleanliness were even more complicated, as public saunas were few and far between,» said Mr Pärdi.
In 1939, Estonian towns boasted 72 public saunas, total. In a third of the towns, there were none. Mere 4 per cent of townsfolk were regular sauna goers – these mostly being the common people, from the country. «The nobility thought nothing of the sauna, that was for the yokel,» said the man.
The city slicker preferred a bath tub. Even so, these only existed in every tenth dwelling of Tallinn. In Tartu, three per cent had bath tubs, other towns had even less.
«This means not the people never washed,» stressed Mr Pärdi. Still, he noted, washing came with great difficulty, as the water had to be fetched from outside wells, by hand.
What spread the slowest was the tooth washing habit. Up to 1030ies, this was rare – only performed by the intellectuals and older schoolchildren. Usually, mouths were just rinsed with water and picked with wooden picks.
«Well... the teeth were in very poor shape, in town and country,» said Mr Pärdi. Once in a while, a family would purchase a toothbrush. One for all.
Post-war breakthrough
Bad habits were broken by schoolteachers, who taught the children modern ways. From the kids, it slowly spread to grown-ups. Still, often, parents would resent being taught snobbish stuff by offspring.
Often Moms and Dads took offence by teachers’ remarks on the dirtiness of their children. «Who are they to come tell us how to live. We’ll feed our own fleas, don’t you schoolmasters worry,» a Lääne County family muttered, angrily, after their unwashen kids got scolded at school.
When then, did Estonians clean up their act? Answers Mr Pärdi: it happened after WW2. «Indeed, one may claim it was the Soviet rule that made us Europeans. All kids were ordered to wash. Mandatory. They checked the hands, the feet, the behind-the-ears,» said Mr Pärdi.
Still, he admits, the change would have come, whatever the powers. The times just changed. «People moved to the cities, away from the farms and the animals. Thus, cleanliness became easier,» the man is convinced.
Mr Pärdi also underlines that Estonians were no dirtier than the rest of the nations. In a 1951 poll by the French ladies journal Elle, the findings were shocking: 25 per cent of women had never brushed their teeth; 39 per cent only took a bath once a month.
Based on a lecture by Heiki Pärdi at Tallinn University on historical hygiene of Estonians and the dark side thereof.
Wew lad cool off
It is ironic because the Soviets actually did improve Eastern Europe while European colonizers in Africa/Middle East/Asia fucked things up substantially.
Poo in the loo!
>It is ironic because the Soviets actually did improve Eastern Europe while European colonizers in Africa/Middle East/Asia fucked things up substantially.
Europeans literally built nearly every sub-Saharan country, the fuckup consists of crappy borders leading to war and genocide.
Meanwhile, forcing communism on a already existing country is never a good thing
Well they're trying to become modern starting from almost nothing, that's the point i was making, that's why Africa is shit. You can't even compare them to China who have a 4000 years old and some of "uninterrupted" civilization or the Americas who had vast amounts of european immigration.
You can't just build something like that in less than 200 years.
Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar are all substantially wealthier than Poland lmao
And Islamic terror isn't revenge for colonialism a century ago, but just a right-wing reaction against the introduction of secularism and liberal values to the Mid East
India declined under British rule and Europeans ruined established African societies. They built a few fancy houses and introduced guns so they could profit off of the lands and then pretended they did anything good.
Soviet communists organized Eastern Europe and uplifted many out of poverty, and built actually useful infrastructure that is still in use today because it benefited Eastern European natives and it wasn't just for the Soviets to get rich.
>Africa is steadily declining
What the fuck are you talking about
Maybe brain drain
It depends on the country though. Ethiopia has suffered from brain drain, but Rwanda and Gabon have hand almost no brain drain.
Africa is improving despite brain drain
>Muslims complain about the decadent, capitalist west exploiting their homelands
>leave said exploited countries to live in the decadent west, not to destroy capitalism at it source, but to enjoy living in countries free of Jihadi nutjobs
AHAHAHAHHHHAHH
>Africa is steadily declining
Who's the fastest growing economy in the world?
It's fucking Ethiopia.
Nigeria is doing well too.
And now with China actually investing in Africa's manpower and not stealing their land as the west do, there's even bigger potential.
Muslims are capitalist as all hell
I can't think of any religion more reactionary than Islam
This desu
Tbh I don't think people like that Dutchie can ever accept the truth
They're blinded by delusion
Europe living in a bubble sadly.
I expect to see US and China as two major power while the rest are plebs including Europe.
this is typical of canadians, as the comparison is merely rhetorical and does not even attempt to ascertain which of the two is true
the reason for the difference, canuckguoren, is that one is true whereas the other is false. Cool how that works, eh buddy?
>From almost nothing
Mamadou please, the Europeans spent 200 years building that almost nothing in a highly functioning something. Niggers broke that highly functional something back down into nothing.
When you have nowhere to go but up, you tend to grow.
>Muh Nigeria
And yet their population is so fast they're on the brink of mass starvation.
>And now with China actually investing in Africa's manpower and not stealing their land as the west do
Why steal the land when you can just get the resources? Of course the Chinese actually love Africa and not the evil Europeans who built your roads, hospitals and still sink millions into giving you aid because you're too retarded to feed yourselves.