>brought ryzen
>threadripper announced a few days later
>x299 confirmed to be a fucking shambles
Did I fire too quickly? I was buying on the user market so consider for time for parts to hit used with a lower price than retail
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>>x299 confirmed to be a fucking shambles
First I've heard of this
well youre most likley not going to benefit a whole lot from a threadripper compared to ryzen under normal work loads
No, because 8 cores is adequate for your purposes. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be asking that stupid question.
There's like 4 threads up about it dood youtube.com
8 cores is still plenty, for video encoding I'd love to have an 8 core, but still stuck on 4 core crap. Soon(tm).
Which one did you buy?
Ryzen is completely fine for high end workstation-gaming setups
Intel with it's stupid arbitrary limits to PCI-E lanes depending on CPU and gatekeeping RAID under a price tag. its like the worst fucking way to handle a HEDT platform.
AMD is straight forward, you get 64 PCIE lanes period no matter what CPU so you shouldn't have to fiddle and figure out what works and what doesn't on your motherboard
I brought 7/1700.
Threadripper isn't going to be of use to most people.
You might have benefited from the price drop on the 1700X, but other than that, unless you want a fuckton of PCIe lanes (need quad channel memory for your special workload), it's not really any better than Ryzen.
You fucked up, you could get a 10 cores 20 threads threadripper for a little bit of money.
You dungoofed son
The idea was for if it was only a few hundred more (NZD$400 --> NZD$600), ryzen was the bag choice. I'd like to spend as little money as possible for the longest high end performance possible.
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Threadripper is going to cost more than the 1800X + X370.
If you're saving money by going for the 1700, it's not worth it.
Do you really need that much power?
that's the weakest R7.
Quit your bullshit, Threadripper will be on a higher tier than the R7 1800X and you aren't affected in any way.
... anyway enjoy the R7 1700, it's great
>weakest R7
They all perform the same at the same clock speeds, and the 1700 is the most power efficient, and the cheapest.
>not waiting for deals
The only thing I'm disappointed to 7/1700 by is that the 3.7GHz boost clock is a bit misleading. That's a single core. When I try to hit all cores and threads I get 3.15GHz max.
On the flip side, I never break 60 Celsius. Awesome.
>only 3.1ghz
Should've waited for threadripper
Overclock it if you want. 2 cores will hit something like 3.5ghz and you can set all the states as you wish.
>hurr I fucked myself
>durr did I just fuck myself guies?
Boost clock has always worked like that even on Intel. When I got my 4690k I just OC'd it to 4ghz on all cores same as the boost clock. Doing this actually made it perform slightly better than a stock i5 6600k.
You can most likely OC your 1700 to 3.7ghz on all cores and be fine with stability
You're forgetting that x399 mainboards are gonna be more expensive, also extra for the cooling and maybe even a beefier PSU
That and motherboards are the hardest component to get at a deep discount.
is amd going to launch those apoo (ryzen + vega) but for desktops anytime soon?
Actually, the PCI-E lane limit isn't arbitrary at all. You're giving Intel too much credit.
They literally grafted consumer Kaby Lake chips onto LGA2066 sockets. Then they lasered off the iGPU (which kills all of the benefits Kaby Lake had over Skylake, because they were all encoding and DRM "features" through the iGPU). They overclocked them by 0.1GHz and called it Kaby Lake X.
All so they could release a $250 4C/4T i5 on the X299 platform. A processor which will cost less than the fucking motherboards.
Arbitrarily cutting off PCI-E lanes for market segmentation would be down right reasonable compared to what actually happened.
Same thing for Intel's boost on their high core CPU's
>even Shillus is shitting on Intel
>deals on HEDT chips
The 990X it's still above 600 dollars, and the FX-62 never dipped more than 300 dollars
The only way to get a deal on this it's if you find some old lady selling his dead neet son possessions for pennies in 10 years
>pci-e lanes
intel has plenty for most users
>raid
please, software raid is retarded, zfs or btrfs
gonna get me a thread ripper probably though, intel wont come close on pricing
are u runnig stock bro
Yes. I have not touched overclocking.
Software raid hasn't been bad for a few years, broski. You need to crawl out of that rock you're hiding under.
When is threadraper coming out, anyway?
Software RAID is crap compared to ZFS
No, it is you fucking retard, listen here. Why the fuck would you allocate your CPU to do a shitty job at raid. If you want plain fucking raid you use a raid controller, but even in today's world that's shit. RAID doesn't properly check data as it's written or read, proper systems like zfs or btrfs perform better and actually protect against data corruption though proper checksumming. RAID is nice and all until it fucks up, which it will. RAID doesn't protect against disk corruption, just when a disk fails. So you could have your data being lost without you ever knowing and usually without the ability to do proper checking let alone live scans and healing.
>Did I fire too quickly?
Based on your purchase, No. If you had zero limits on your budget, maybe.
Zen is good. Threadripper will be good, but not everyone is an 'enthusiast'.
1. 28 PCIe lanes on the only cpu's a 'gamer' might want killing its crossfire/sli performance also GL if you want a good nvme SSD
2. using cheap TIM over solder on 165w chips
3. pusing skylake-x up then delaying it
4. kaby lake X....... why?
if you paid more then $300 maybe because thats what they are selling for no on newegg and amazon other then that NO
299x will be trash
ZFS doesn't require hardware RAID. Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
How the hell did you get to that conclusion?
All I said was, ZFS is a better solution to the problem that software RAID solves.
I've been closely following PC building threads for a long time and recently built a Ryzen-based system. Take it from me - THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING BETTER RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
The best solutions you have are either
1) Only ever wait for the better thing coming out (you'll never actually build a rig this way)
2) Make the best system that suits your needs based only on what's currently available
You'll be happiest if you choose the 2-nd option. Since desktops are completely modular, you can always upgrade some parts (CPU, RAM, HDD, GPU) later when something better comes around.
Just return what you have and order threadripper?
seeIt's the most practical CPU from the Ryzen 7 series.
Sell it and buy 16C.
It's a good purchace. Why?
LinusShillTips has ripped Intel a new asshole regarding their 300 USD software unlockable RAID 1 and 5 bullshit
But it took firestrike ultra on an AIO with a LN2 1070.
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I bet Linus is going to get a visit from "the boys" at Intel over that.
Holy fuck. When even that faggot calls Intel out on their bullshit, you know something's gone terribly wrong.
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>getting a 1800x build
Same here OP, but at least i have the excuse that I won't spend hundreds of dollars on a fucking mobo
You did good OP.