Where did AMD get the technology to finally BTFO Intel?

Where did AMD get the technology to finally BTFO Intel?

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they actually R&D'ed. Unlike intel which still uses Pentium 3s.

Jim Keller happened to be visiting our region of the universe and had no plans that afternoon .

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didn't happen

Give it 3 quarters and Intel will sink AMD again

ayylmaos

When a company's back is against the wall, there are generally only two outcomes:
1. Bankruptcy/liquidation
2. Get your shit together, restructure, and offer a highly focused and competitive product.

AMD got out because they trimmed off all their fat and focused on a core product that they could scale to any market segment.

>JUST WAIT

AMD has a wealth of IP from everything they've developed over the past decade, and they have plenty of theory to build off of outside of whats already been implemented in various form. You can see the DNA of AMD's prior designs in Zen. All their power saving IP, all their fabric, having a design team that knows exactly what it takes to create a high throughput engine, and giving them the resources to execute it instead of patching a broken design.

The problem is usually centralizing all that technology instead of having it being dispersed over SoCs, APUs, CPUs, and other products. Ultimately, it took them over 5 years and dumping all hey had down the drain, holding by with refresh products to get to this point. Not the best business strategy but they had no other choice.

Intel also has those things AMD has and already owns the low voltage market and the High end server market and the cherry on top is unlimited money

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Thank you based shit wrecker.

Uh, they designed and built it?

Intel also has something which AMD had: Complacent management riding out past successes with no real goals for the future.
Intel came up with a solid basis for a core architecture, and they incrementally evolved it into Kaby Lake today.
Having money doesn't matter if its not well used.

>AMD puts all its energy and resources into a CPU that barely competes with Intel's microscopic increments

Just wait and see. Intel will really beat the shit out AMD again and AMD will have run out of ideas

>Just wait

No, not with current cuckold CEO.

>intel's 10nm process in shambles
>cannonlake xeons removed from roadmap
>new platform is a train wreck about to happen
>7nm facility still under construction
>realistically won't be online and in volume production until 2020 or later
>after Kaby comes Icy and Tiger Lake
>still more refreshes and incremental nothing upgrades
>years to come of absolutely nothing new
>"Just wait"

Okay.

Jim Keller, Shit Wrecker

Lisa Su, Poo in Loo

They hired The Certified Shit Wrecker, that's what happened.

But he's already left didn't he

They hired Papa Keller, Clark pulled out his head from his ass, and they had enough time to design extremely efficient core and fabric which scales like crazy.

JIY

I wonder how much improvements will be in Zen+. I'm guessing higher IPC/clocks and possibly lower TDP.

Intel is falling behind. Each update for motherboards, OS, games and whatever other drivers puts the Ryzens on par of ahead for much less. Plus way more threads.

He left back in 2015, when they finalised Zen and K12.

Yes, for a while. He was the head of the whole division for arch development. He oversaw the teams who developed high level arch for K12 and Zen both. When he left work on Zen+ was already under way.

>The only competent engineer has left.

Can you try to guess which company is in trouble

But where's K12? I wonder what AMD can do with custom ARM cores.

Zen was designed by Mike Clark, you mouthbreathing retard.

shelved indefinitely

Intel doesn't have a new architecture until 2021.
Their 10nm process also performs worse than their current 14nm process.

K12 is likely shelved due to lack of demand, or too much competition in an uncertain market. ARM, POWER, SPARC64, MIPS, and everything else only take up 20% of the enterprise/HPC market. X86 is 80% of sales and support anually for the whole industry. Expending a ton of resources and taking a gamble on a potential loss over such small potential gains isn't a wise decision. A lot of companies thought ARM in the datacenter would pan out, but it hasn't really. ARM is developing high SIMD throughput core designs to try and directly tackle Xeon+Phi setups, but I have a feeling that K12 might have been aimed here as well. AMD would be just another vendor offering a comparable part if this were the case.

The other possibility, which is likely part of the case no matter what, is that the Zen core scales so well in low TDP envelopes that a comparable ARM based part has no real appeal over X86 Zen. The Raven Ridge APUs scale down to 4w. Trying to compete with that is no small task.

I'm pretty sure that idiot ceo still wants to use Pentium 3s.

What the fuck are you talking about

No, JUSTnich (since Freiser unJUSTed himself, Krzanich is now the official JUST guy) ordered a BRAND NEW uarch. And they already announced it'll break bc.

We have to yet see how Ryzen does well in the actaul market. It doesn't matter if their new architecture is better if it doesn't sell well on the market. Remember Intel has dominance in the mobile over AMD.

core architecture is based on Pentium 3s. they are still using 17 year old arch.
how did that happen? a threadripper hit him in the head?

Nice.

>he doesn't know about RR

You got proof on this buddy?

>Remember Intel has dominance in the mobile over AMD
ryzen mobile is too strong. if apple uses it, intel is finished.

>I am to retarded to trace the origins of Core uarch
Okay.

Rysen APU with Vega GPU when

Q3 2017 in some laptops/2-in-memes probably.

wccftech.com/intel-developing-new-x86-uarch-succeed-core-generation/

Have you fucking seen the power effeciency of zen? The current desktop chips are massively over-volted to reach the clocks they do and they still murder Intel's offerings. Once you start scaling zen back (ala pic related) its power effeciency is amazing.

JIM KELLER
>swap 2nd letters of his name
JEM KILLER
>flip the M
JEW KILLER

It's as simple as that.

Oh wow that stupid edit I made of keller's face on duke now turns up as a top hit? Nice.

>>he doesn't know about RR
RR isn't on the market and won't be for quite some time.

Try buying a laptop, any laptop, and see what's available: Intel CPU + NVidia GPU across the board. That's it. My laptop has a shitty 1080p TN panel so I'd like to buy a new one but as a GNU/Linux user a NVidia GPU means I'm limited to the specific distributions and Xorg versions they support with their binary blob driver - which is why I probably won't buying a new laptop for quite a while.

Face it, there are no RR products and we won't realistically see any before Q1 2018. Yes, Intel does own the mobile space, AMD isn't even in that market right now.

>there are no RR products on the market
Of fucking course, it's not even out yet you moron. RR is Q3 2017 for SP5 BGA.

Do you think Intel and Nvidia will still be in business after AMD unveils the unified-core APU?

What do you mean by
>unified core APU
?

Intel won't be but the market for dedicated gpus is growing and growing fast.

You mean shrinking? dGPU market is dying.

It's so fucking hilarious to see NVIDIA's desperate attemps to leave extremely volatile gaymen dGPU market.

>it's another AMD shill pretends AMD is actually good thread

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterogeneous_System_Architecture

>Just you wait for AMD!
>Just you wait for the next Intel!
I'm not due to switch from my skylake in 2-3 years.

That's HSA and it's mostly for meme learning and datacenters.

youtube.com/watch?v=idRLZTy9Pio

they'll ressurect pentium 4 just like they did pentium 3.

Are they going to give massive rebates to OEMs that promise to not stock AMD products again? It worked for them last time and only cost them a 1.2 billion settlement for years of market dominance.

NO. THE EVIL SHOULD NOT RETURN.
Not gonna work.

>3 quarters
>while the only chance intel has now is their new architecture which will be released in 2021

you don't need a shit wrecker to tweak shit.
amd will let the pajeet tweak this shit over 10 years and milk it.
shit wrecker will return again then.

does he know what we call him?

>Pajeet
Mike Clark sounds pretty fucking american for me.

still haven't paid.

>amd r&d is just one person.

Clark is Zen's lead architect.

They literally stole the technology from Intel for sure

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then why intel was rehashing the pentium 3 if they had this?

fucking idiot

Funny that it was supposed to go:
Haswell (22) > Broadwell (14) > sky (14) > cannon (10) > sky (10) > tiger(7)

But instead, here we are

Consumer space =/= all places gpus are used.

Consumer space gives novideo 80% of its revenue, GPGPU is forever irrelevant for 90% of datacenter space and prosumer market is small.

IBM

The same company that was ditched by Apple and replaced by intel.

>IBM
Zen is nothing like POWER.

Actually, POWER9 is the closest thing to Zen that exists.

>even IBM diched le ebin single gigantic pool of L3 design
Simply ebin. I mean core-wise though.

Pentium Pro's,

Pentium 3 was a modernisation of the Pentium pro

AMD "Fast Sync" (Direct X) where?

aliums

They clearly got it from newly discovered Nazi research.

Don't be an anti-Semite Sup Forums, buy Intel.

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Supports or requires?

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it's not required if you're fine with load temps in the upper 80's lower 90's

CERTIFIED

honestly, I think the Russians are helping them because they want to undo intel's ME espionage.

I don't think you can call 80-90 optimal thermal performance.
So it's basically requires it.

SHIT

WRECKER

lol. Their new arch isn't out until 2020/2021. And it's just x86 with parts chopped off. Their current arch can't go anywhere, it's been milked to death. Intel has nowhere to go.

The FTC is watching them. I doubt they'd get away with it for long.

Thank you based wrecker of shit

So is apple going to start using them?

It is a possibility but as with anything Apple it is convulted as Apple write their OS to the hardware so who knows what sort of changes they would have to make should then jump aboard the AMD train.