I've finally fell for the Debian meme. Stable is nearly finished installing, what am I in for?

I've finally fell for the Debian meme. Stable is nearly finished installing, what am I in for?

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stable os with old packages. It just werks

No games

You should install the Wordpress package first.

Everyone hates you when you file bug reports.

>tfw I can't get my Wi-Fi to work on Debian Stable
Fuck me, Debian is easy mode and I can't do it. I fucking suck.

Install the non-free firmware you meatball.
wiki.debian.org/Firmware

your shit is more insecure than ubuntu because it has no default apparmor enabled

Debian doesn't have fucking bluetooth enabled by default.

>can't install grub to /target/

apparmor is actually important because you open infected pdfs and shit

Was that supposed to be a bad thing?

No wifi

Lel, this.

2012 packages
no drivers
no firmware
awful rendering for office documents cause shitlibre from 2014 version
shit ffmpeg (i think they actually ditched it for Libav like ubuntu tried in 14 lts?)
virtually no mpv(old version)

>implying it's hard to install the appropriate kernel module

enjoy gnome 3.14 and software released 10 years ago

>not using latex
>not compiling ffmpeg and mpv on all distros

Editing your sources.list to be testing or sid

>using gnome

Isn't testing more suited for desktop use? Stable is for server right?

Dist-upgrade to unstable. It is rolling release and honestly it has never broken on me. Testing is also a viable choice, but be aware of the tradeoffs. You can read how to do the upgrade on the Debian wiki.

Stable is only meant for servers because of stability.

What for? I'm happy with the stable plus backports.

I recommend testing, it allows you to get latest (free) drivers and most things like perfect dual screen support work out of the box. Using Jessie won't prevent you from enjoying the full range of features available from your hardware but it might require some more tinkering.

Set up sudoers so that you're not running everything as root and compromising your security. First open the terminal and type "su" and enter your root password. Then type "visudo" and near the bottom it'll say "root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL). Right under root, add your username with the same permissions. Then below that it'll say "%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL. So you should have " yourusername ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" copied below those two lines. Now you should have access to everything in your system through the sudo command.

Update to stretch. It's as easy as Googling the "Debian stretch sources", opening your terminal, and typing "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" Delete everything in there and add the three or four lines that you copied from Google. If you want to label them as new stretch sources, simply go to a new line and add # before the text to make it a comment.

You could use GUI apps to configure this stuff but it's not as efficient or straight forward.

I also recommend adding HTTPS Everywhere, uBlock Origin, and Self Destructing Cookies to Firefox. Set it to never remember history and change your search engine to Startpage.com. It's literally Google without the invasive JavaScript and ads.

Oh, and before messing with sources, be sure to run "sudo apt upgrade -y" to get all of your packages up to date. Then after adding the new sources you can run "sudo apt dist-upgrade -y" and the whole system will upgrade. If for any reason the kernel does not update, just do "sudo apt-cache search linux-image" and then "sudo apt install newest-image-available". Log out and log back in and you should be good to go.

EXACTLY how?

Not being able to compile things because the packages are ancient

It automatically sets up sudo for the first user if you leave the root account's credentials blank.

>google the sources
>copy the sources
>sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
>paste the sources
>sudo apt update
>sudo apt dist-upgrade

Any why would I leave the root account blank? That's retarded.

It won't even make the root account if it's blank. (can't sign in)

The current stable is about to become oldstable while testing becomes stable in two weeks. You picked a bad time

it disables root login

Exactly, why would I want to be cucked out of root access? I'd use Ubuntu if I wanted that.

>cucked

What's important about HTTPS Everywhere and self destructing cookies, stallman?

I have 2 gb of ram and im worried about losing more speed

>>>/the_donald/

>EEF

enjoy your botnet

self destructing cookies are pure autism but everything else is valid and at peak usage takes up like 1mb. uBlock should actually decrease cpu and ram usage a little by blocking ads and HTTPS Everywhere is a privacy oriented fix to run all websites through a secure network. No speed loss

sauce?

I hope you're installing it on a server, it's about as good for desktops as CentOS.

>everyone I don't like is from Sup Forums and reddit
Stormfront here.

Security. I use those extensions and I can barely reach 1GB of RAM usage with a bunch of Firefox tabs open.

>using cookies
Enjoy your botnet, tripfag.

>1 GB for webbrowsing
dropped

lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/05/msg00002.html

Why do people say Arch is hard mode and Debian or buntus are easy when you have to do shit like compile kernel to have working wifi?

broadcom? my child

>have to compile to have working wifi

What the fuck, why do people recommend arch

That's with my entire DE, not just the browser you tard.

I meant that in Debian (stable) you have to compile, not in Arch.

most of my steam library works fine on debian.

>what am I in for?
A beautiful, stable experience. You will never get random regressions and updates will never break your system. You can also rest assured that the system is secure thanks to the amazing community.

Unless you fap to version numbers, they're useless. Sure, you might be lacking a couple of new features, but are they really necessary if your system is up and running flawlessly? Plus, you can always install a backport, an appimage or a snap/flatpak if you want the latest version of something.

Oh, and Debian offers only Libre packages by default. That's amazing.

Protip:
>add the Mozilla Apt repository, install it's version of Firefox and then uninstall firefox-esr. Debian only has ESR on it's official repository, so you'll be stuck with Firefox 52 until next year
>the WINE team offers a repository with the latest WINE version for Debian. You might want to use it, but bear in mind that using random repositories is not recommended since it might introduce random breakages
>don't mix Backports and Experimental repositories. You will have a bad time
>for the most part, apt works great. Some users prefer aptitude. Just don't use apt-get, it's supposed to be used by scripts and not humans. Dist-upgrade is never safe
>Debian sometimes has stupid defaults (like Synaptics touchpads don't accept tap to click or LightDM doesn't show the list of users) go to the Debian wiki. It has explanations and tells you which config files to modify
>at any point in time you can move to Debian Unstable. Just modify the repository list with help from the wiki and you're set
>to add a user to sudoers, all you need to do is use 'su', and then the 'adduser username sudo' command

Happy hacking.

reinstalling windows

>he has to set all his shit up everytime he closes a tab
cookies are useful for things other than tracking you dumbfuck.

Because if you're using Linux on a dedicated server or virtual server, where it belongs, Debian is easy mode.

As for what's good on the desktop....who cares, honestly, GNU/Linux on the desktop is a trash fire no matter what distro you use. Six million ways to die, choose one.

Why is it still called Debian and not just Ian?

>using sudo
>using stretch which is still a testing branch
This post is a whole lot of know nothing.

Why would you have to compile your kernel when 4.9 is in the repos? Also arch (and also gentoo) isn't hard unless following a guide and comprehending what you read are too hard for you.

See: I agree Gentoo and Arch are really easy-mode.

>offended over the word cucked
Christ, you people really don't adapt to the culture here at all do you? Image boards are no "multicultural", learn or get out.

>party van comes
>they take your computers
>they open the browser
>instant access to all of your accounts
>t-t-thanks c-cookies!
All because you're too stupid to remember your own passwords.

Let me guess, you're the Gentoo fag that ran Firefox as root and got malware?

outdated packages. maintainers that WILL close your bug reports because such old versions are no longer supported.

No, you don't. The Debian installer automatically checks if your hardware is compatible with libre-Linux. If it needs a proprietary blob, it will display the name of the firmware and then you can download it from Debian's webpage and keep it updates using Debian's non-free repository.
This is the only reason why the FSF doesn't recommend Debian, because Debian recommends non-free blobs and hosts them in their servers.
If your hardware needs a driver not included in the Debian non-free repositories, then you would need to compile it in every single distro

You can choose to delete cookies after you close the tab, to delete them after you close the browser, to never delete cookies from a certain website and/or to disable third-party cookies.

I don't like typing in 26 character passwords every 5 minutes, I have work to do

You can simply add backports to your sources.list and install a newer kernel. Also stretch, which is going to be stable in two weeks, comes with 4.9 AFAIK.

>party van
Well I'm not a pedophile or terrorist you fucking mongoloid

sudo is overkill for a single user.

hot opinion

root is dangerous

Heaven

>sudo is overkill for a single user
look at this retard

It doesn't even come with sudo installed you fucking retard. You probably used Ubuntu and just assumed that Debian is the same way. Just shut your whore mouth up.

For you. Sudo is for cucks. xD

And then you update your shit and it becomes the new stable, doesn't it?

huh, neat
my country is too poor to have party vans, also
Convenience>Privacy, its why I use google services. I use libre/FOSS alternatives as long as they don't hold me back.

unix.stackexchange.com/questions/106529/why-is-sudo-not-installed-by-default-in-debian
>If you specify a root password during installation sudo is not installed by default. If you do not specify a root password, sudo is installed.

No drivers. Not memeing, that's literally what you're in for.

>what is the Debian w/proprietary firmware installer

Why would you use and install Debian for anything but for a server? Don't need special drivers when you use it for a server

>making a regular user an administrator by not setting a root password in the installer
Don't do this.

same as every other linux distro

>outdated packages
>non-functional software that stays in more than one version
>retarded maintainers

It's annoying for users that more than a working version of the top 10 famous applications and it gets worse if you ever develop software on it.

a dist-upgrade in 2 weeks because stretch will become stable and jessie oldstable

check out backports, if you need newer versions of some packages.

>debian
>not calling it divdead instead

>yourusername ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
you forgot to mention to set NOPASSWD
fuck, what kind of retard sets sudo to ALL instead of explicitly specifying which programs the user is allow to run with sudo ?
are you a ubuntu user or something ?

i seriously wonder what Sup Forums will say in 2 weeks when stretch becomes stable

on another thought, most people just keep repeating the bullshit they read on Sup Forums and has actually no idea what they are talking about, so i guess it will still be complain about ancient packages

Redshift won't work.

had to lookup what redshift is. but according to the debian wiki it works just fine ?

Sup Forums will one day realize the superiority of Debian

on that notice. How do I upgrade my stable to stretch (or then stable)? Never done that before

edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all occurrences of "jessie" with "stretch"
sed -i 's/jessie/stretch/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
(or just use the texteditor of your choice)

run
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade


just reinstalling it would probably be the better option though

as long as you don't mind being stuck in 2015, you'll probably have a good time.

>This is the only reason why the FSF doesn't recommend Debian
I thought they got butthurt that Debian had a non-free repository at all.

i seriously doubt that.
99% of Sup Forums literally just has a linux VM or partition to post in desktop threads.

>so i guess it will still be complain about ancient packages
When Stretch becomes stable, users will be locked into Stretch until the next major release. Jessie was released in 2015, so that's a long time without major updates.
If you're not running a server, I don't see why you wouldn't just upgrade to Sid when Stretch is released.

It doesn't work with Wayland's design.

>b-but this is how they used to do it in the versions from 4 years a-ago
And this is proof of?

> I don't see why you wouldn't just upgrade to Sid when Stretch is released.
i don't see why i should want to upgrade to Sid. i've been running Sid for years, but settled with stable ~2 years ago.
if i actually need a newer version of a package i'll just fetch it from backports.
everythings just stable, and there's no chance that some upstream package changes it's api, configuration options, etc (happened a few times to me on Sid, it's just annoying)

Debian is literally server OS

i thought stretch would still use Xorg as default display server ?

> installs a DE