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THEN state the PURPOSE of your PC & BUDGET. State COUNTRY if not USA. List GAMES/SOFTWARE you use often. List resolution & hz if gaming. Seeking build improvements? Clarify goal: lower price or improved specs? ctrl+f to see if your question was answered already
CPUs: >G4560 - budget builds (R5 1500x - generally all you need for 60fps with power to spare. No i5 >R5 1600 - best value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 1600x if you too lazy to OC >i7-7700k - bad value but good for higher FPS; may have heat issues >R7/Xeon/Threadripper/i9 - compute/Multitask/mixed use
Graphics: >G4560 iGPU is fine for desktop stuff and very light game >1050Ti for low budget. Drop settings if not Freesync/Gsync on newer games; RX560 if discounted RX570 4GB - 1080p@60+hz, running most maxed; older games at 144+hz >RX580 8GB - 1440p@60+hz, inject SMAA & drop settings >1060 - Generally outperformed by the RX 580 and GSync costs more; consider if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA/miners buying all RX570s) >1080 - 1080p@100-144+hz maxed; 1440p at lower hz. >1080Ti - 1440p@90-144+hz; 4k@60hz in SOME games, more at lower settings >Freesync2 & Vega soon
General: >READ PRODUCT REVIEWS to see if that cheap SSD/PSU or whatever is reliable >Consider larger SSD-only for what you budget SSD+HDD combined. Add HDD later once needed >NVMe aren't for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity/scratch disk/VMs >Stop confusing any M.2 drive with NVMe. M.2 is a form factor >mATX board + case is often cheaper >1 SR DIMM is slower than 2 DIMMs
you forgot to add the GTX 1070 line you doofus delete and remake while you have the time
Carter Cooper
Ryzen 1600x Asus Crosshair Hero 6 Flare X 3200 8gb+8gb RX580 Saphire Nitro+ 8gb Acer XF270HU 1440p Freesync monitor
I already have SSD and Hardrive, is this a good 1440p gaymen PC? Is Freesync worth it?
Luke Torres
Freesync is pretty good indeed as it ensures no tearing & smoothness even if you go below 60FPS for a short amount of time Without Freesync it'd be either getting tearing when without v-sync, or stutter with it
Ian James
Why do people go with the most expensive board? Isn't the Taichi the best AM4 board overall?
Hello everyone what's your opinion on my build? Should I go for it? Any recommendations?
Nathaniel Price
Freesync is a meme. Get a high quality IPS panel for the same price as these shitty 144hz TN freesync monitors. That gpu will barely be able to hit over 60 fps maxed out in 9/10 modern games anyway at 1440p.
Cameron Nelson
Wait™ for Vega :^)
Julian Cook
this cooler won't do much The 1600x is already near it's max clocks (4.1GHz), and you can do a 4GHz overclock on all 6 cores with a much cheaper $60 cooler or such because it doesn't heat that much can save money on SSD is good otherwise
Carson Torres
>combining LEDs Not funny, my sister died that way
Is it worth hunting down the latest version of Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB for a new computer?
Connor Wright
No, get a big sized fan instead(biggest your case can have) and 2 prefereably(at the front) and get a normal sized for the exhaust at the back. Depending on your case you mgiht experiment a bit. Why?: 1. Bigger fans barely make noise 2. Do crazy cooling thanks to more air going through case
Water coolers are shitty, overpriced and nobody uses them besides people that are gullible to """pc gaming""" marketing strats
CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($62.49 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper T2 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.89 @ OutletPC) Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($49.88 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC) Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Video Card ($89.98 @ Newegg) Case: Azza - SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon) Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC) Sound Card: Asus - Xonar DSX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($52.88 @ OutletPC) Wired Network Adapter: TP-Link - TG-3468 PCI-Express x1 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter ($11.95 @ Amazon) Total: $487.36 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-04 20:55 EDT-0400
Carson Evans
Well my evo 212 is about 5 or so years old hoow long do heatpipes last?
Chase Brown
>580 Good luck finding one in stock
Adrian Jackson
Nah, just use your current license if its a windows 7, 8 or 8.1 Otherwise pirate one of those windows versions. Microsoft is doing a full 360 on the LTSB version, dont even bother with, microsoft is dead. Just use their older versions till newer games dont work on them anymore then just go back to linux. Microsoft is a joke and will become obsolete in 20years.
Im going with g4600 because I want to do gpu passthrough in the future. Or is the igpu in 4560 good enough?
Gavin Reed
That's pretty good for the price but why are you getting a soundcard & CPU cooler?
Evan Martin
Don't really know but if it still works and your temps are stable I don't see a reason why you should upgrade, its kind of waste of money if that cooler can go hard for atleast another 5 years. Like buying a new mouse because your old one was 5 yrs old.
Unless you're rich, then go ahead and get somthing new so you can have that 5degrees C lower temps even though your cpu will function the same.
Isaac Foster
>he doesnt use a cooler on his soundcard
Eli Fisher
Anyone know how to get a phanteks cpu cooler AM4 mounting braket?
Wyatt Wright
Upgrading from my FX-6300/M5A78L-M/960 2gb build. The PSU and storage are being carried over, didn't bother including the latter though. Wanted to get the 580 but that ain't happening anytime soon it seems.
Anyways, would I be seeing a worthwhile overrall performance upgrade from my current build? Not just with gaming but with multatasking and encoding/rendering.
Daniel Murphy
contacting their support
Robert Lopez
Thoughts on this build would be greatly appreciated:
I wish people would take the time to learn how to delete things on this site. It's two damn clicks.
David Johnson
You'd see a decent performance increase but it'd be a bad choice because both the R5 1500x & 1600 would be much better at rendering, encoding, multitasking & gaming than these overpriced 4 core 4 threads CPUs going by the name of i5 Ditch the i5 & mobo, go R5 1500x & b350 mobo. A320 is fine if you don't intend to OC, and upping to an R5 1600 is much better because of two extra cores & 4 extra threads.
Jaxon Cook
Ryzen is better Get dual channel RAM unless you are plan on upgrading.
Leo Powell
>DDR4-2400 >micro-ATX >1060 instead of 580 >80+ bronze psu Have fun with your overpriced set and longterm high electricity bills
Eli Cruz
580 uses more power than 1060 80+ bronze is perfectly fine
Evan Edwards
Higher rated PSUs is just to have them run cooler, so that they're quiter.
bronze/silver/gold/platinum has nothing to do with how good the power supply is, it's just telling you the efficiency,
Kevin Hughes
If you must get Windows 10, get it from Kinguin where it is 25 dollars per key. Or if you prefer even dodgier sites, allkeyshop sells Window 10 keys for 5 bucks.
Andrew Gomez
Looking to purchase a new mobo/psu.
whats boppin on the market right now?
currently working with an i5-3700k and a gtx 950.
thanks boys.
Liam Martin
Repost since the last thread died
Justin Collins
Nothing that'll fit an i5.
Michael Hall
I already have everything on this list, looking for upgrades
Elijah Sanchez
PIC NOT RELATED, FOR ATTENTION
So, I know my bearings but i'm still pretty new to PC's building.
I drew up a pc on PCpartpicker however my friend told me the Architecture is bad.
What does this mean and how do i go about fixing it?
Why a R5 with an X370 board? Are you supposed to be budget or overclocking garbage?
David Edwards
Is there an A320 build you'd recommend for a 1500x? I was looking at doing a Ryzen 5 1500x build but I heard there were issues with some mobos not running well with them. There are also few reviews of any a320 mobos anyway.
Robert Hughes
Everything looks great. Looks like a pretty new build as well. What are you looking to upgrade? I mean your monitors could use some upgrading since they are still 1080p60hz. You can afford to get 1080p144hz monitors or a 1440p60 one.
Cooper Howard
Trying to aim for budget, but mid tier budget.
Assume that the R5 is more important than the mobo and that choosing MOBOS is a pain in the ass
Parker Stewart
He probably meant the CPU. Get Ryzen.
Jackson Myers
Architecture refers to the CPU/motherboard socket
Yours is ancient and to upgrade will be to replace nearly every part you're getting here.
If you want Intel, look for a Z170/Z270 or H110 board
If you want AMD, go for a B350 or X370
Matthew Bell
what a bummer. is the ryzen worth buying into? looking to do some vidya with a bit of video editing.
Justin Cook
You want either the Pentium listed in the OP, or an R5 1500X budget depending.
Kayden White
Where can i get a goddamn list of EVERY GPU of the most current lineup being compared. I want to see how shit or not shit a blower gtx1080 is without running into a fucking Text to Speech youtube video from Russia.
Camden Cox
just get a prime b350 plus or msi b350 pc mate and up to a 1600 with the money saved
Carson Butler
X370s are enthusiasts boards. B350 are budget. NVMe is bad for boot times, if that's what you want it for. Use the extra cash exchanging the mobos for two sticks of 2933 or 3000Mhz RAM
Joshua Gutierrez
>H110 board At least get a H270 board man
Josiah Butler
He meant that the CPU architecture is shit which is right, this 7850k could be clocked at 5GHz with ten cores i'd still be pretty shit Get a pentium g4560 instead with a cheap b270 mobo or cheaper
Benjamin Roberts
Just look at any benchmarking site?
Aiden Lopez
You're right, I'm stuck in the past.
Juan Scott
Yes, especially the video editing. Ryzen does everything very well. 1600 build will get you what you want without breaking budget. Really everone prettymuch walks out of here with a 1600. Even builds that typically require a Xeon.
Ian Cox
An R5 1600 (6 cores 12 threads) would be a worthwhile upgrade. Anything cheaper wouldn't be worth it, a 7600k wouldn't be worth it, and you'd get worse performances with an i7 in video encoding / editing until the $400+ ones R7 1700 is not worth it for you because you're just doing a bit of video editing instead of a lot
William Watson
Alright so iv\e gone for the the
Hudson Rivera
At this point he might as well save money on the CPU, go for a G4560 and get an RX 470/570 instead Also, getting a PWM fan case doesn't make much sense, pretty much any mobo allow for custom fan curves anyway
Nathaniel Stewart
What is your budget? christ dude
Alexander Rivera
Is there a good place to buy used components other than ebay? Because I'd rather not have to deal with ebay. or paypal.
If I have to deal with ebay can I just sign up and go buy something or are people going to refuse to deal with a new account with no feedback?
Jacob Cruz
Depends, paycheck coming through at the ed of the month, so like max 800, heres a build i was thinking of, changed to the 570
Well that's annoying, anybody know of a cooler that's small and doesn't require extra brackets?
Daniel Martinez
>noctua on a sub $600 build NO! 1500 only if you overclock. But the stock cooler with it is a little underpowered. So that makes the 1500X kinda mandatory unless you have a cooler that you can get a free AM4 mounting kit.
Blake Hughes
1400* only if you overclock
Nolan Lopez
Is the gtx 1060 still a viable option for playing new game releases on high settings for the next few years?
Owen Long
>that's small Define small, is 165mm small?
>doesn't require extra brackets? Nope
Just pick up a 1600 and use the wraith cooler or spend two weeks mailing a support person your receipt in hopes of brackets.
Not OP, but it's been hard to come to a consensus on what to put for the 1070. It's ~$400 yet only ~25% better than the $215-$230 GTX 1060. The GTX 1080, on the other hand, is what like 37% better than the 1070 for only ~30%-35% more money?
1070 is bad price/performance and a niche card. I think the issue is a lot of people severely underrate the performance of the RX570/1060 6GB/RX580 and should be getting one of them. Nvidia marketing has it in people's head that $170-$260 is somehow a low end GPU price when they do 1080p at 60-144fps fine depending on the game and most people use 1080p. And really, they higher end ones of those models are pretty damn good for 1440p so there's no point in spending so much more for the slightly better 1070 there either.
If someone is sure they need more performance than those 3 mainstream cards, they should be looking at the GTX 1080 instead of the 1070 in almost all cases. The vast majority of people who have been putting a 1070 in their builds have not known what they were doing so it stands to reason that it maybe shouldn't be in the OP when it requires so many qualifiers to explain when it's a good or bad buy.
Dylan Fisher
thanks magic eight ball man. should I get the gtx 1060 instead of the 1070 then if I plan to use some piece of shit non-144hz monitor in this build?
pcpartpicker.com/list/zWD2M8 Any tips to either make this build cheaper without sacrificing performance, or improve it without substantially increasing the price?
up to R5 1500x or down to g4560, but 1400 is a very meh CPU and performs pretty much the same as a g4560 even though it costs twice the price
Nolan Gonzalez
Does it???? dont know much mind you im new to all this, but surely a 50 pound cpu can preform on the same level as a new release 150 pound?
Justin Perry
hey guys, im new to the pc building world. i tried to learn as much as i could in one day but i realized that money is a hude deal when you want something nice. i have a low budget and ive come up with this. pcpartpicker.com/list/ChHKVY
any suggestions? if i could save money or if i just dont know what im doing (most likely) please let me know
John Jones
g4560 is more around $75 and the 1400 can indeed outperform it decently in some workloads, but games isn't among them.
Eli Morris
i forgot to mention, my plan is to build a low budget gaming pc
The GTX 1050ti is pretty low end, doesn't make much sense to pair a 1600 with it. Up to a 570 and downgrade to a 1500x / downgrade the RAM if you're lacking money.
Brody Gutierrez
Alright. I do have suggestions. Drop the WD Black drive. It's fairly loud. Replace it with a Seagate 2TB HDD for near the same price. If you don't want 2 TB of storage, get a cheaper WD Blue for under $50
The next thing is Ryzen NEEDS a Graphics card. Ryzen has no integrated GPU, nor dodes the motherboard, so you need a graphics card. I recommend an RX460/560 4GB or a 1050Ti as a stopgap until you can afford something better.
