Raise your hand if you were one of the thousands of people who got pic related and actually like it? I got this one when the reviews said it was a good buy and I have to admit it has served me well since then.
While I do like the Archer C7, and used it as the OP image because pretty much everybody bought one since it's the WRT54G of AC routers, I think this will be my last consumer router.
Anybody else currently using a consumer router and want to migrate to using a business grade router when AC gets replaced by a new standard?
>>moving from Consumer to Business grade edition there is no such thing as business grade. it is just the same shitty consumer grade shit and at most does something retarded like support a few VLANs. the word you are looking for is enterprise class.
>Anybody else currently using a consumer router and want to migrate to using a business grade router when AC gets replaced by a new standard? Just about anything enterprise class isnt going to have integrated wifi you retard. There are a handful of devices like Cisco 860 or 1901 routers which have it but they're absolutely retarded. If you're going to get enterprise class wireless you need discrete access points and will need a controller appliance as well if you want to use stuff features CleanAir.
Tyler Morales
True, but there's more integrated stuff as time goes on.
Joseph Barnes
If you need router - buy router; if you need wireless ap - buy wireless ap, buying router with wireless ap is just getting worst of both worlds. That said unify + rb750 (or more powerful, if you _really_ need it) will do the job just fine.
John Harris
just get an old-ass computer and install pfsense if you want something that's "business grade"
Robert Stewart
Not anything enterprise class. Even cisco is killing off the integrated wireless controllers on their 3850 series switches. All that is left seems to be the ISR 800 series and all it supports is 10/100 and 802.11g/n
Anthony Moore
bought TP Link AC1200 (first gen) and when I flashed openwrt on it found out that it's the same hardware as AC1750 as TP-Link had hardware delivery problems at that time. Flashed AC1750 firmware with help of openwrt. Now have AC1750. Would buy again.
Sebastian Nguyen
Just use a switch and have a firewall on your computer
Daniel Jackson
>If you need router - buy router; if you need wireless ap - buy wireless ap, buying router with wireless ap is just getting worst of both worlds. What?
John Brooks
pic related is a real router, not a shitbox. they dont come with wifi because why the fuck would they. you can occassionally find switch cards in them, but no one uses them outside of tiny satelite offices. you use discrete devices.
Camden James
But why would you even need one of those at home?
It's not even a case of overkill, you would literally get zero benefit from it.
James Smith
My UTM manages my three AP's for uniform wireless coverage.
Robert Bennett
Is the TP-Link Archer C7 AC1750 still the way to go or is there something better in that price range now?
William Nguyen
A recent x86 box with vyos is better than 99% of the garbage out there. This includes "real" standalone routers as well
Angel Fisher
Wait for AC to be replaced and then buy. No point in buying a router now unless yours is broken. If it's broken, buy it.
Ethan Baker
>But why would you even need one of those at home? Because it isnt a shitbox which needs to be rebooted once a month? Because you want something with a real QoS system instead of the laughable ones you get in "business" grade shitboxes? Because you want to learn routing protocols?
Ian Russell
>Because it isnt a shitbox which needs to be rebooted once a month? And >inb4 you only have 21 days uptime I installed a software update which required a reboot. Even though this ASA is more than a decade old it still gets software updates.
James Lopez
>Because it isnt a shitbox which needs to be rebooted once a month? Just install OpenWRT. The only times I rebooted my router in the last 14 months were when I tripped the breaker by mistake and when I moved apartment. A grand total of three times.
>Because you want something with a real QoS system instead of the laughable ones you get in "business" grade shitboxes? Potentially.
>Because you want to learn routing protocols? A fucking waste of money. You can get emulator software for free if you want to do that or buy a shitbox Cisco router for cheap with all the same learning capability. If anything your image is a testament to that. That device has two Gigabit Ethernet ports but a firewall throughput of only 300Mbps.
Wonderful throttle you have on your network there.
Carter Lewis
Is real QoS even possible on regular consumer cable/dsl lines?
Jacob Reed
>Wonderful throttle you have on your network there. It is just a firewall. My internet connection is 50mbps down because my area sucks for ISP competition. Pic related is what does the actual routing for my internal network. My ESXi box has a pair of 10GbE trunks to it. Does you're consumer grade shitbox have 10GbE?
Daniel Price
No, but then I have no need for 10GbE.
Luis James
>be innathread about 802.11ac >but have no need for 10GbE You do realize that .ac exceeds 1Gb?
Brandon Russell
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Dylan Thomas
Power to you man but I had few pieces of cisco equipment like AP's and voip phones and if you're not already familiar with cisco environment it's not worth the pain and time to learn how to properly set everything up. It took me days of research to accomplish things I could finish in an hour with consumer grade equip.
Colton Perez
>it's not worth the pain and time to learn how to properly set everything up It does if you work in IT. And having a enterprise class homelab is a good answer to interview questions such as 'how do you keep your skills up to date'
Benjamin Long
>occult ritual to summon good ASUS customer support
Jace Sanchez
>You do realize that .ac exceeds 1Gb? Only in ideal situations.
Daniel Brown
Rate me, Sup Forums.
David Baker
I just have pfsense running as another VM on my hypervisor box and gave it some intel NICs with vfio-pci.
Works for me.
Ryan Scott
I've got the AC68 that I've yet to set-up. Both are good from what I've read.
Ayden Myers
It's serving me well.
I had a Netgear with 802.11g support only prior to that. It's kind of a wonder to see that I can actually get 80+ MBps over wireless (over short distances).
Also USB is actually nice, I used it to share files over LAN, and while it's not great for that purpose, it helps out a bit.
Julian Smith
Is this a meme or is it actually any good?
Cameron Bell
Pfsense in a HP proliant microserver i jewed off of my brother who wasn't using it anymore. Very happy with that setup. Not ever going back to premade consumer stuff
Adrian Wilson
*blocks your path*
Sebastian Flores
>tfw all I want to do is make a SPARC-based *BSD router
Why do old Sun machines have to be so expensive?
Josiah Campbell
>not enjoying setting up a network I wish I had the money for a nice lab setup at home.
Thomas Morris
I need a new router because mine can't handle more than about 100-150mbps through my VPN.
Which i'd like to at least see up at 300-500mbps. But currently this would require a $4,000+ router. Or a custom built PFsense box.
Angel Anderson
> VPN Which type? Ipsec, ovpn, something else?
Joseph Ramirez
That's quite some throughput. What kind of VPN are you using, IPsec or OpenVPN? You might want an x86 box that does hardware AES, an APU2 would probably suffice
Nolan Rogers
Single client, OpenVPN currently.
And yeah, x86 box with AES and PFsense was my first thought.
Jace Perez
Sounds like a viable option. I'm not knowledgeable to recommend any HW options though :/
Benjamin Scott
Yeah, it's more of a long term desire, i'm fine with 100-150mbps throughput for now, it wasn't an issue at all when I had 150mbps internet, but now that i have 1gbps, I want to be able to utilize more of my bandwidth.
Jeremiah Martinez
What's the best wireless ap/router which actually runs DDWrt or OpenWRT, they're quite limited when it comes to wireless device support.
James Cook
The WRT1900AC
Nolan Jenkins
Any chance of going on jewbay and buying some used equipment for it?
Benjamin Lewis
Or the WRT3200ACM
Sebastian Miller
That was my other idea, just to pick up a used dell server or some shit, throw an extra NIC or two in if needed, and throw PFsense on it.
Still would be expensive, but not nearly as expensive as a true blue Cisco router or similar setup, those fuckers are charging like $2,000+ for a router/firewall that can handle over 500mbps VPN throughput.
Dylan Barnes
Terrible line of routers
Jacob Martinez
Meh, they're not bad. They aren't my favorite for sure though.
That said I just bought a new house and I don't think I'll be able to put my edge gear in the garage like it is now, so it's going to have to go in the house. My pfsense box is a fanless atom board in a 1u case, but the power supply provides the airflow and is loud as hell.
Should I try to make it silent or switch to a ubiquiti security gateway?
Matthew Cox
What throughput are you getting with the Atom box?
With QOS the USG only manages like 200mbps throughput.
With L2TP/PPTP throughput is only 25mbps
Hudson James
It does around 750mbs. I have a 300mbs connection so it's good enough for that. I do not have qos enabled. I have openvpn server running on it, but I've never tested the throughput on a fast connection.
Chase Taylor
well the USG would be fairly similar performance most likely. Maybe a bit faster.
But keep in mind, it's CPU is like 3 years old now, so it's nothing great for faster connections.
300mbps isn't SUPER fast, but fast enough I could see it being a bottleneck for certain situations. It's going to depend what you do with your network however, it could be a perfectly viable option for you.
Jackson Cook
>50 Mbit Internet >using 10 GbE Why in gods name?
Josiah Peterson
Will only have 150mb at new house. Unfortunately I'm going from fiber from a private telco within no caps to Comcast with cap, more expensive, less bandwidth.
Nicholas Richardson
yeah with 150mbps then you should be fine unless you want full throughput during VPN.
Dominic Davis
Because he's a retard who read a comment saying routers with wireless ap built in are garbage and now he thinks he's an expert and wasted a bunch of money on stuff he didn't need.
Angel Reyes
I like my Ubiquiti setup. Edgerouter X, Unifi Switch 8, and an AP AC Lite. Nice middle ground between enterprise and consumer. I don't know why that other guy is advocating for Cisco in a home environment. The only time I'd ever have Cisco shit in a home setup is in a CCNP lab or something. Fucking licensing nightmare.
Logan Campbell
Got a FortiGate 60E with a FortiAP
Cooper Evans
Range is insane on these things. Maxing out my 100/100 broadband connection.
Nicholas Fisher
useless for me, i tried them and at most I could get 80-120mbps from more than a room or two away.
Garbage for anyone on an actual fiber connection.
You're far better off with Ubiquiti access points.
Zachary Gonzalez
Works for me. Like I said, maxing out my 100/100 broadband which is fiber optic.
>You're far better off with Ubiquiti access points. Why would I have several different access points. Are you stuck in 2007?
Jeremiah Martin
>Why would I have several different access points. Are you stuck in 2007?
What the fuck do you think the orbi is?
All these meme mesh wifi systems are garbage if you have any decent amount of bandwidth.
For now you're dropping $600+ on high quality access points, or you're running ethernet to every computer in the house and your wifi devices be dammed.
Josiah Carter
>Using Cisco ever Enjoy your government backdoors.
Jose Reed
>What the fuck do you think the orbi is? Mesh Wifi, so one access point split between multiple routers or satellites as Netgear calls them.
>All these meme mesh wifi systems are garbage if you have any decent amount of bandwidth. How so? You haven't explained why. Can you even explain why?
>For now you're dropping $600+ on high quality access points, or you're running ethernet to every computer in the house and your wifi devices be dammed. Or I spend $399 on a Netgear Orbi deal which includes an extra satellite, which I did, and get maximum speed from my ISP everywhere in my 2800sqft house. I only have one ethernet cable and that's for my NAS.
Juan Rodriguez
Is there any routers capable of running openvpn and shadowsocks at 90mbit?
Lucas Sullivan
>How so? You haven't explained why Because they're 2x2 radio setups, so even in the BEST case scenario, you'll get ~850mbps. And that would never happen in a house environment, realistically you're looking at 300-500mbps maximum throughput in real world scenarios.
The first mesh system that uses 4x4 setups for the base station as well as the satellites might get my money. But until then, NONE of the current mesh systems on the market will get more than half of my bandwidth to a client device.
I'm far better off getting a Ubiquiti 4x4 access point or two and setting them up in my house than using ANY current mesh system on the market.
Landon Nguyen
ITT: spergs sperging
Ethan Lee
Alright, fair enough. But our use cases are clearly different in that I move my devices all over my home and connecting to different access points is a thing of the past for me. Aside from my desktop of course which is in my office.
Parker Baker
>connecting to different access points is a thing of the past for me. Ehhh?
You know you can just set them to have the same SSID and then make sure they broadcast on different non-overlapping channels, your devices should switch seamlessly between access points without any user intervention.
Gavin Morgan
One of these I purchased in 2012 with tri 9dbi antennas.ddwrt installed. Serves as a AP.
Dominic Williams
i have this router, the lack of features is annoying
Luke Davis
i had a tplink archer c5 v2. thing would drop connection all the time. replaced it with a netgear r6400, no problems
my parents have a tplink archer c5 v2. drops connection all the time.
Charles Jenkins
>I move my devices all over my home and connecting to different access points is a thing of the past for me. lololol wait, so you bought a mesh wifi system because you're too retarded to properly configure your access points so they handoff connections seamlessly?
wew lad, what are you even doing on Sup Forums?
Oliver Ward
>not rocking one of these + AP AC Lite
plebs
Zachary Jones
>The Official Sup Forums Router >Posts some shit router made in China that comes with a backdoor from factory and some shitty OS.
Why is this place so shit now? Years ago the official Sup Forums router would have been some Open-source hardware system board running OpenBSD instead of consumer bullshit.
>Friends don't let friends use commercial routers
Carson Davis
Seconding this. Outscored Ubiquiti and all other consumer routers in raw throughput and range.
Ubiquiti edge router is Sup Forums and basically nothing else unless you're making your own using juniper or anything else Linux based
Brody Rivera
>Outscored Ubiquiti Correction, it out scored ubiquitis ONLY consumer product which is highly regarded as fairly low end.
Ubiquitis REAL access points would destry the orbi and others.
You'll just be spending $200+ per access point. But you'll get 3x the throughput.
Elijah Wood
my niggaz
William Barnes
install openwrt
Hudson Anderson
Yep. I have one of the $300 APs to send wifi to a property 5 miles away on a different mountain. Works well
Jonathan Gomez
Why is ap AC lite so good? The pro one costing 3 times more with 3 bands instead of 2 puts out a weaker signal lol
Carson Mitchell
how reliable is it? can't have my router crashing
Nolan Garcia
Im using one of these backdoored chinese botnets with pfSense.
Gabriel Hernandez
I have a fortigate on my edge running the full UTM suite.
Jaxon Davis
100%
really I assumed every tp-link meme posted here was flashed with openwrt, I guess not
Isaac Thomas
me too. we are Platinum partner and get decent small business models for free
what model and what AP are you using
Zachary Wilson
Just flash project lede on it faggot
Cooper Taylor
>router thread okay, i have the classic blue box for wifi and run ethernet for desktop and console and its been what i've been doing for years, at what point do i have to/should i buy into the mesh routing meme?
Jordan Nguyen
>classic blue box >wrt54g
Damn, I still have mine, too. I dont use it, but, I still have it.
Chase Bennett
I have a fortiwifi 60d, wifi disabled with a ubiqiti AP instead.
Nolan James
/ourguy/
I think I might've coined the phrase you used at the end.
Nathaniel Ross
Mikrotik RB2011UIAS-RM + hAP ac lite as wireless AP do the job for me just fine, zero issues and supports VLANs
Would buy Mikrotik again, RouterOS is pretty cool after you learn it
Tyler Barnes
I'm using an old pc with two gigabit ethernet cards using pfsense which is connected to two bt hhs via a switch which act as wireless aps.
Am I missing something or is this a good setup?
Jacob Ramirez
Meant to type "terrific," autocorrect bungled it.
Henry Gutierrez
You seem to be confusing access points and routers faggot. Why would you use the same low power cpu and ram for 3 functions faggot, you want Enterprise grade which a router for routing, and an access point for wifi. Cheapest Enterprise like system are ubiquiti for Soho
Justin Morales
>Why in gods name? you do realize that some people actually use a network for more than downloading hentai?