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cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4300U
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youtu.be/ycKzTDnTYTQ
ebay.com/usr/orshke2015
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I like the pic you chose.

thinkpad without OS when?

At least the German student offers at campuspoint.de/ are partially being sold without OS.

I have a very old VAIO laptop (pic related, came with vista about 11 years ago i think) and after several years using it i think it's time to upgrade to something better, it can barely handle 3d rendering anymore

i do not have much money to invest on a new laptop and i am considering a refurbished thinkpad

which model would you suggest with these specs:

- cpu faster than 2.26GHz
- at least 8gb, ideally 16gb but would that even be possible?
- 13"
- less than 500$

would this even be possible?
from what i understand by reading the wikis, the x200 model would be the only sub-15" option, is that correct? pity it's fucking expensive

t. clueless and poor

What's your use-case? Btw CPU clock speeds don't really matter anymore since about 2008 or something.

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RB5MB2867

I have a W700 with 3 GB ram on a 64bit duocore system (ubuntu gnome), how much more ram can i install on it? I also heard ram is really expensive right now, should I wait? Thanks in advance!

That's a 14" laptop.

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA95Z5NS1697

Yeah 1" doesn't really make that much of a difference, it's still better than the piece of shit you posted.

X230

Better in not meeting the requirements? Or better in worse trackpad and keyboard?

I normally use my laptop to sustain myself, freelancing in these fields:
- programming, usually scripted frontend faggotry (using vim or sublime text)
- running a lamp server for testing
- working with vector and bitmap images for print (using photoshop, illustrator, indesign)
- editing videos (aftereffects and premiere)
- making music (fl studio)
- 3d rendering (usually blender, other programs are way too heavy)
- live vjing (resolume)

It's very clear to me that such tasks, especially 3d, should be done on a well perfoming desktop; but I travel often on foot or bike and stealth camp around 3/4 of the yea, so i need something portable; 13" would be ideal compromise between retardedly small and too big to fit in my backpack / bike bags (14" hardly fit during colder months because of all the extra bullshit i have to carry with me)

It's also very clear to me that it would be better to switch to FOSS software and hardware, and where I can i stick to software that interjects for a moment.

> Btw CPU clock speeds don't really matter anymore
ah thanks!

thank you very much, i assume that the 1.9GHz CPU is faster than the 2.26GHz i have is that correct?

>any reason why an X260 is not a good idea?
>I can get a new one for like US$630, while the X220, X230, all of them used, are around US$330

My question stands

Better in every conceivable way minus the non important 1" difference in screen size. I personally offended you would even suggest someone buy a *40 series thinking.

Retro when

Ok sure *50 and newer have the better touchpad keys again, but apart from that Thinkpad keyboards are still better than any Dell imo.

>Thinkpad keyboards are still better than any Dell imo.
You're probably right. I just had such a bad experience with the *40 series touchpads that they should never be recommended.

I wanted something portable with good battery life and almost got an X260 myself from the lenovo outlet. I found cheap t440s with a 1080p screen / swapped trackpad and got that instead.

If price isn't a concern, I think the main advantage of the x230 is that it can be corebooted. Libreboot will be available by next year too, supposedly.

Never ever

>thank you very much, i assume that the 1.9GHz CPU is faster than the 2.26GHz i have is that correct?

cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4300U

all of the other specs are kind of important too

if the X260 has a 1080p screen, 16gb RAM, and a 500gb SSD then yeah that would be a much better deal than an X230 with 4gb ram missing the hard drive

and vise versa...

My opinion: if you're actually using your mobile computer as a mobile mobile computer at uni, work or elsewhere absolutely get the newer models. The battery life is just so worth it.

>cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4300U
most helpful and great site, will come in useful when comparing shit

have a hot Sup Forums retrobabe

Hey, wich eGPU should i get for a t420? I don't want to spend too much, and i think the newer ones would be bottlenecked aniway.

X220 and X230 can get up to 12 hours with the extended battery

Is terraria playable on x220?

>is terraria playable on intel hd 3000

google it

im using gtx 1070 amp

I downloaded it yesterday, but still didn't ran it.
Warframe runs at 30-50 fps here though, i know terraria can be a bit demanding on large maps, but i don't see how it wouldn't run it.

Just to be sure, the egpu will only work in an external monitor, right?

Could you explain to me your setup? Including power adaptors and everything.

I could see myself getting a gtx1050 maybe, but not an 1070.

If it says no optical drive does that mean it was taken out and there is now just empty space. Or did it not have it in the first place.
m.newegg.com/products/9SIA5HA45Z6592

That model doesn't have an optical drive.
They probably put it in the name because at the time that model was released, the concept of an ultrabook with no optical drive was still new.

It wouldn't have been out of the question for someone to buy a laptop having mistakenly assumed that any computer would obviously have an optical drive.

Thinkpad t520 vs t530

Neither, 15" is too old fashioned and heavy.

not an issue the issue is price

are the spec differences worth the price to you? it's subjective

well its 30 dollar difference but I get A qaud core i7 and usb 3

i got this T60 running both pfsense and freenas on VMs , pfsense have his own dedicated 2 lan to usb adapters and soon getting a usb 3 express card in order to add an external hard drive to the freenas vm
any other experimental stuff i can do with it?
>inb4 potato quality

youtu.be/ycKzTDnTYTQ

I found an x230 for 192 dollars
Has i5 3rd gen 2600mhz
4gb ram expandable up to 16
320 gb hdd
In great condition
Is this a good price

Honestly if you're doing it for i7 and usb 3, I wouldn't. Some low percentage improvement in some benchmark is not worth it... and for usb, I can't remember the last time I transferred data via usb, so that's the only usecase usb 3 matters right? I don't charge my phone via laptop.

battery? condition of the battery?

seems like a good price yeah

but you'll NEED to get an SSD, also depending on your uses might want to upgrade to 8gb RAM

and if the battery is shite and you want battery life then it's another $60-70

don't nickel and dime yourself

that's a decent price yes

>quad-core ivy bridge i7
>small low percentage benchmark improve over dual-core sandy bridge i5

Original battery doesn't say condition. Just says tested to hold a charge. They are a Microsoft certified refurbished if that counts for anything

The I7 is ehhh but the usb 3 The only reason is the external I I use for backups is usb3

How big of a difference is grade a to grade b

depends on the reseller, usually they define what their 'grades' mean

(it's pretty irrelevant)

depends on the person selling it.
Generally though, Grade A is going to appear to be brand new, while Grade B means there might be subtle signs that it was used (tiny scratches, etc) but no significant wear n tear.

hey guys i found a x230 for 320$ and has:
an i5 3380M
8gb ram
128gb ssd
it has the battery and the notebook cover
and it comes with a dock station and the original charger

Where can you get a new X260 for $630?

Is the wifi switch on x201 actually a hardware switch?

yes, that is kind of the point

I should probably get a T440p for $170, right? Being able to drop in a FHD panel feels kinda nice since I won't be doing that in my X220 any time soon..

My shitty HP spectre laptop recently broke. Started looking for Thinkpads, found a T440p for 170$, worth it?

in Chile

Yes I know, but plenty of laptops have software switches nowadays. Thanks anyway, just making sure.

>spectre
aren't those the new hip and cool that cost over 1 grand and it already broke?

I have a Latitude E6410 but I can't find any working WiFi drivers. The network card is foxconn
Anyone know where I can get Dru era for it? It seems to be an aftermarket lan card

Get out of here CPUBoss shill. CPUBoss is total cancer.

>mfw waiting for my P51 in the mail
It says it's coming tomorrow!

So then it probably won't be worth spending an extra 20 dollars to get an a condition one

How safe is it to handle a thinkpad like a tablet?
Assuming the HDD have been replaced with SSD or booting from USB flash drive.

how to remove this shit?

think it was done by one of those paint pens

would a mr clean magic eraser work?

soap and water is kind of out of the question

The T430 only has 2 usb 3.0 connections, but intels data on the chipset says it supports up to 4 and something like 10 usb 2.0 ports.

Intels schematics also mention that the usb lines do not need any resistors, it seems to be a straight trace to the port.

It'd be neat to add some usb 3.0 ports, but I doubt those traces are exposed ;(

I've always manhandled them by the battery, never had any issues

probably best to paint over it

I've been thinking about picking up a can of rubberized paint for various uses, and I've thought about painting my power brick with it

Havet hade it for 1,5 years.
The display broke after a few months and the charger after a year. Have used a non brand charger since then now it won't charge at all. Well at least I can salvage the m.2 ssd and AC WiFi card

I'm from Costa Rica and if I found a new x260 for that price I'd buy it immediately

rough side of a sponge

Google PCI vendor database

Isopropyl alcohol, failing that, windex.

I was thinking of getting x220 or x220t, and have it as "beat up" laptop to use it when traveling and since I mostly likely will be lending it to other people to use.
I know the SSD will get rid of HDD mechanical failure because of movement.

But what about CPU fan?
Should it be fine as long as the vents are not blocked?

cpu fans are fine, screen hinges are fine

although the X220 and X230 are prone to cracking the corners of the palmrest

and the tablets have these little rubber screen holder things on the sides of the keyboard bezel that are also prone to snapping off, doesn't really affect functionality though

>not wanting people to think your a tech specialist
Wew lad

magic eraser couldn't hurt
try rubbing alcohol first
where did you find an ex-BHS laptop?

what does tpg think of the t530 keyboard?

It's fine unless you've gotten used to the older style..

Does the T420 uses the same RAM sticks as the X220?
Or is there limit to the clock speed?

My T41p is having some GPU issues so until the heat gun arrives, I put a coin inbetween the heatsink and the keyboard to give it a little push.

came with thinkpad bought from this seller

ebay.com/usr/orshke2015

he's got a few cheap T430's for sale right now

Check thinkwiki

yes the chipsets are the same

It says DDR3.
I thought you need SODIMM for the T420?

You do, would be pretty stupid to fit full size sticks in there, don't you think?

they are 204-pin SODIMM DDR3 modules

ah BHS was a British department store so i thought you got it from the UK

What if I found DDR2 SODIMM RAM chips?

Will not fit, you need DDR3

you'll have a hard time fitting it in the ram slot

And if I use sticks of different clock speed it would run as the slowest one?

X220 or X220t?
I found both for the same price with the same specs.

4GB per slot. I don't think DDR3 is going to get any cheaper in the foreseeable future since DDR4 has replaced it, but 4GB modules shouldn't be too expensive yet. Certainly nowhere near as bad as 4GB DDR2 modules.

Ohh hell yeah the guy thats selling the t530 I got him to go down 30 dollars

do you use cooling pads on your Thinkpads and does it help with temps?

Why did RAM get so expensive?

I have both and I only ever use my X220, I did put an IPS panel in it though which you won't have to do on the tablet version.

I use another Thinkpad underneath my W520. It works.

As I said, DDR4 replaced DDR3, so DDR3 is out of production and will only go up in price from here on out.