/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Post your component list; rate other anons'; ask questions in general.

>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons & compatibility filter.
pcpartpicker.com/

THEN state the PURPOSE of your PC & BUDGET. State COUNTRY if not USA.
List GAMES/SOFTWARE you use often. List resolution & hz if gaming.
Seeking build improvements? Clarify goal: lower price or improved specs?
ctrl+f to see if your question was answered already

>How to assemble a PC, select components & more. (somewhat outdated)
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

CPUs:
>G4560 - budget builds (R5 1500x - generally all you need for 60fps with power to spare. No i5
>R5 1600 - best value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 1600x if you too lazy to OC
>i7-7700k - bad value but good for higher FPS; may have heat issues
>R7/Xeon/Threadripper/i9 - compute/Multitask/mixed use

Graphics:
>G4560 iGPU is fine for desktop stuff and very light game
>1050Ti for low budget. Drop settings if not Freesync/Gsync on newer games; RX560 if discounted RX570 4GB - 1080p@60+hz, running most maxed; older games at 144+hz
>RX580 8GB - 1440p@60+hz, inject SMAA & drop settings
>1060 - Generally outperformed by the RX 580 and GSync costs more; consider if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA/miners buying all RX570s)
>1070 - if on heavy sale-ish
>1080 - 1080p@100-144+hz maxed; 1440p at lower hz.
>1080Ti - 1440p@90-144+hz; 4k@60hz in SOME games, more at lower settings

General:
>READ PRODUCT REVIEWS to see if that cheap SSD/PSU or whatever is reliable
>Consider larger SSD-only for what you budget SSD+HDD combined. Add HDD later once needed
>NVMe aren't for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity/scratch disk/VMs
>Stop confusing any M.2 drive with NVMe. M.2 is a form factor
>mATX board + case is often cheaper
>1 SR DIMM is slower than 2 DIMMs

Other urls found in this thread:

pcpartpicker.com/list/swnYCy
en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Why_a_GPU_mines_faster_than_a_CPU
cryptocompare.com/mining/guides/how-to-mine-ethereum/
youtube.com/watch?v=r8Y26Uq07Kw
pcpartpicker.com/list/qPwRXH
au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HNQtYr
144hzmonitors.com/reviews/lg-25um58-p-review/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

First for Kikes ruining 580

nail polish is gross and so is nail art

Can someone explain what the fuck happened to all the 570s, 80s and 60s? Why are they all 400+ on ebay all of a sudden.

I was only under a rock for a week while I moved for work.

580 in stock at newegg right this second.

pcpartpicker.com/list/swnYCy

been tweaking this for a while as I try to save up. Already cut about $300 off. no idea what the actual price for the mobo is or where to get it but that's what the msrp is apparently. I'll figure it out more when I'm able to buy. I wanted a 570 but the mining nonsense makes that tough.

First post already explained it senpai
Its the kikes

>mfw I bought 10 580
>Gonna resell all of them
I am the KIKE

really doesn't explain shit. Mining? CUDA?... the fuck did I miss?

Mining

Looks like a fine build, although that CPU seems like a bit of overkill for the graphics card.

>Mining

Explain. Is it cryptocurrency mining or something else?

Runescape mining.

What other mining do you think Jews will get up to? Of course it is cryptomining.

I'm doing the same thing. Is ebay going to be over saturated though?

>> I'm level 99 in woodcutting

Come at me bro.

We will see.

Yeah... but why GPUs? I thought that was all processor based and you could put together a shitty graphicswise rig with a decent cpu and mine away.

No one has mined with processors in ages senpai.

educate me like I'm five then because I am clearly behind the times.

en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Why_a_GPU_mines_faster_than_a_CPU

Read the buttcoin wiki

how'd i do

Bought an RX 580 in my third world shithole, is there a guide for mining?

Thanks for the info, I will read it on my leisure over this weekend and then contemplate on whether I should jump in on this or not.

what country? I'm also a 3rd world scrub but 580 is not on stock everywhere I look.

Argentina, since 2 weeks ago I have checking daily on a website and there has been stock moving, at the start they had the Nitro+ LE, Gigabyte Aorus, etc
Now they only have the 2 bestbuy RX 580s 8GB models from XFX and Nitro+ 4GB

You want to mine Eth. Not bitcoin. Or you can mine Eth and be paid out in Bitcoin. Hit out /biz/ for more info. /biz/ is the go to board for cryptomining.

nanopool.org/help

I just checked /biz/ but it's full of faggots shilling different cryptos, I already knew about Eth but I was looking for a complete updated guide, specially for RX 580s

Page not found

cryptocompare.com/mining/guides/how-to-mine-ethereum/

Question from a first timer, how do you choose what company to go with for GPUs? Like ASUS, XFX, Gigabyte, msi?

>page not found
figure it out

Check benchmarks and reviews
Which card in particular are you interested in?
Also remember that even with factory OCs most GPUs perform the same no mather the manufacturer, at least without extra overclocking

I already screwed up back in november with a MSI RX 480 8gb, Thinking of a Nvidia GTX 1080Ti this november or sale but don't know what brand. I like ASUS but I mostly see EVGA getting the good reviews.

So I'm planning on upgrading soon, my plan so far is:

R5 1600 CPU
Supernova 650W
16GB DDR4
And some cryorig cooler, maybe H5?

I've been looking at the 580s but you jews have depleted that supply in minutes, so I'm planning on bumming a holdover card from a friend's old build and waiting for Vega.

I'd like any good recommendations on:

Case - Just going to do air cooling for now
RAM - Brand and speed for a ryzen 1600 (I heard g.skill was the best and high speed, a la 3200)
Mobo - Brand/type. Not sure which version to go with - I will be overclocking as well.
Monitor - 144Hz, pref. with Freesync for the Radeon cards. Something along lines of 24", 1080p. I'll jump to 4k when prices of those go down.

Thank you. Also fuck 580 hoarders and miners.

saving up for a ryzen gaming pc (gpu preferably 570/580, but will most likely be gtx 1060 6GB). What's a good value monitor, Sup Forums? I've read that you shouldn't scrimp on a monitor, since it'll last much much longer than the pc.

TN 144Hz or IPS 60Hz?
4K or not?

Personally I think that 24" 60FPS is plenty. But will gaming be more enjoyable on a >27" >60FPS?
Thanks

I will sell one to you for 400 bucks. No need to salty.

EVGA is good because of customer service, even if your card fails you quickly get a new one.
1060 can't do 4K so no
Get an IPS 60hz unless you play a lot of esports games, then buy a TN, tho those are the only games you will be able to play with very high framerates.

IPS > TN unless you play a lot of twitch shooters and need that high response rate.

Higher Hz looks better but requires a better graphics card. 4K looks great but for 60fps you need something along the lines of a 1080.

A very safe bet is to get a 144Hz 24" for now with freesync or gsync and upgrade to a 4k when prices come down for both those monitors AND capable video cards, at which point you convert your 24" into a second screen for random tasks outside of gaming like managing your voice comms or looking at porn.

Not a chance in Hell will I be jewed up THAT much. GL on Ebay.

Any good monitors out there for under $150?

>or looking at porn
If you have a 4k screen, you watch 4k porn. It is a game changer.
But I agree, 5 years down the road, a good quality IPS will still have resale value unlike the rest of your build.

Someone posted a decent acer 24" acer IPS yesterday. IIRC they are under 150 and pretty good.

youtube.com/watch?v=r8Y26Uq07Kw

A good video on TN vs IPS.
Watch and decide which you prefer or need.

Get one of these, pussy

Also 650W is overkill for your plans. You really only need 400. 550 will give you more than you need in case you think you may need more later.
M12II, 550RM, and 650RM were both on sale the past few days. Maybe they still are.

Someday friend I will reach the heavens of 4k porn but today is not this day.

But I'm just talking hypothetically if he's using it as a 2nd monitor for gaming. Prices for all that 4k stuff are quite high right now.

Well who would be best performance wise?

I have a 27" monitor and I think it is already atrociously large. I am not able to screen pan in some games because of it. I doubt I will ever use 4k in my PC. TV yes. PC? Nah. 1440p is as large as I will go.

thanks m9!
144Hz 24", so a TN? I've looked around and there's no IPS panel with that spec. There are 27" 144Hz though. (> $600)

Also:
- Will it be ok to use your 144Hz monitor to run 60fps games yearlong (or whatev years until you upgrade your gpu)?
- Will you get neck pain programming on a 27" monitors or above? (I guess you can sit further back, but isn't that the same thing as getting a smaller monitor?)

kill yourself

diediediedieidie

>Will it be ok to use your 144Hz monitor to run 60fps games yearlong
Yes. To my knowledge all monitors let you see the frequency limit. Most 144 monitors have an option to limit it to 60, 120, 144. And some even let you overclock it to 165.

>- Will you get neck pain programming on a 27" monitors or above?
I can't help you here. This is personal preference and style.

IPS vs TN is a big ol' debate that boils down to what you want the monitor for. For stuff like video/photo editing where the color richness matters, IPS is the go to. For stuff where the fps matters, you want the higher Hz of a TN so you can get the godly 144Hz. It makes a difference and once you go up to 144 you won't want to go back especially if you add on freesync/gsync.

But an IPS due to the innate picture quality will last you a long time IF you switch to a newer monitor and use the IPS as a secondary - you won't need that high Hz anymore and will care more about picture quality.

Nobody with a brain is going to buy a used GPU after a mining boom. We know it's been tortured 24/7 for god knows how long.

I'd also like to add TN panels are generally cheaper being older tech.

Some of the high end IPS monitors have sub 5ms response time as well which makes them usable for FPS and gaming which limits TN to if you are playing twitch shooters. So take that into account when choosing an IPS monitor if you decide to get one.

pcpartpicker.com/list/qPwRXH
How does this look for 1080p gaymen?

It is brand new and out of the box moron.
I am scalping them.

Looks good.

You're selling it on ebay

nobody believes you

your product is tainted

ty

ty, appreciate it. I guess I'll go 24" IPS 60Hz first and then wait until gpu upgrade or until prices for the 144Hz are down. Got any favorite brand?

>Implying
You are just jealous you didn't get a 580.
Fyi. I have already sold one to someone before my shipment even shipped.

Having trouble getting my H81 Pro BTC set up. I can only get video out from the VGA slot when no GPUs are connected. As soon as I connect the GPUs no signal goes to monitor. Have tried HDMI ports on GPUs (Radeon Rx 570s) but no luck. Have googled and watched vids but am stuck. Help?

Go read monitor reviews. Every brand has good and bad monitors. Get the one that best suits your needs.

I'm going for the same build. I think it's a really good build value-wise. Trying to lurk around for a RX 580 first.

Is the RX 580 even worth using for gaming right now? 1060 is cheaper and better and Vega is right around the corner. Aside from mining, who would even think about purchasing these cards for games?

Make sure your 570 is properly inserted and powered.
On your monitor itself, change the input signal from VGA to HDMI. Some of the older monitors require manual input and don't automatically detect signals.
Report back.

People who hate Nvidia

I bought a used 290 2 years ago and it's fine. Miners run cards at stock voltage, stock speed.

ooc, how much did you manage for it?

I'm considering picking ones out from canada and shipping them to the states at this rate.

Not really, pick up a 580, hawk it and buy a bigger card. Repeat ad nauseum.

Are you selling on Ebay? It sucks they take a 10% cut. On a $400+ sale that really eats into your profit margins

Around 100 dollar profit.

No. Craiglists. Local reseller forums. I will try sell locally first (i live in a big city) to save on shipping and middlemen taking a cut. I can afford to sell cheaper than Ebay and still make a profit in this manner.

i can get a 980ti for 250ish bucks, should I go for it? currently have a 480 im looking to sell, with the cryptomining I can easily get 200 for it as of now

Had power button installed wrong. Not sure if that was an issue.

Managed to put HDMI cable on GPU plugged into the 16 x 1 slot and got it working.

Thanks for help user.

Ok I might try that. Thanks

No.

power button polarity doesn't matter, since it's just a momentary switch.

Is it worth to swap a 1080 for a 1080ti?

With Volta in 2018?
Nope.

why not?

Has it been viciously overclocked?
Is it warranty still valid?
Is there any issue with the GPU that is intermittent?

>overclocked
no
>warranty valid
yes
>issue with gpu
no

Yeah go ahead and buy it then.

>Is the RX 580 even worth using for gaming right now? 1060 is cheaper and better
what? RX580 beats the 1060 6GB 9Gbps on average. Especially in newer games and 1440p.

Some miners are retarded and overclock even though it tends to be much less profitable. But yes, most run at lower than stock voltage.

If warranty is transferable then go for it.

How can I make this cheaper?

Should I go for 1080 with these prices?

if monitor is 1080p, 1070
if monitor is 1440p, 1080

au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HNQtYr
How does this look for budget 1080p gaming? Plan on finding a used gtx 970

Currently looking to buy this cheap IPS:
LG 25" LED 25UM58-P IPS, for gaming. It has 75Hz refresh rate, which is good considering the price ($160-170ish). It doesn't have Freesync/G-Sync though. What do you think?
GPU will probably be GTX1060 6GB.

looks bad
2 cores isn't going to cut it

Core is a bust unless all you play is LoL and Hearthstone.

Read reviews. A monitor can look good on paper but suffer from backlight bleed or other issues (shaky stand, washed out colors due to panels). You will only get this info from first hand usage which is where reviews come in.

ty, what's your go-to review site?

144hzmonitors.com/reviews/lg-25um58-p-review/ SeemsGood

Will the no-Freesync/Gsync be a major issue for gaming?

From all the research I've been doing it seems to run most modern games on high settings at 60fps~ with a decent gpu.

Freesync and kikesync is the mechanical keyboard of monitors. You don't need it, it is not necessary but once you get it, it is really hard to go back to not having it.

Because those benchmarks are only running those games. They aren't running chrome in the background. Or discord. Or whatever background software you have. That is the problem.

That is a good site. Also check youtube for video reviews so you can see if there are any physical issues you might not like.

benchmarks mean jack shit unless it's you running the benchmark

thanks, that's some good explanation.