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Fuck off to
>use OpenBSD for two days
>get used to it
>switch back to my main PC (Linux)
>do something
>doesn't work
>ok no worries, let's fix it
>manpages suck
>documentation sucks
>source code of non-working utility is bloated to hell
>no mailing list for this topic
I think it's time to go full-openbsd
Do it. I made the switch about a year ago. Don't think I'll ever look back to Linux land.
man pages on openbsd are really something
How the heck do you make a bootable usb to install this openbsd?
Use dd to write install61.fs to your flash drive.
I'll first try to install OpenBSD on a Raspberry Pi board as my MPD media center. Is it ok?
no it's wrong
but yes mpd works fine on openbsd
Tell me why I should switch to OpenBSD over Fedora Linux which is already prettty damn secure but with the Linux software availability.
>Fedora Linux
>which is already prettty damn secure
???
Look at the total number of CVEs for the Linux kernel, OpenSSL, or any GNU software. Fedora includes all three. That new Vixie Cron privesc exploit? Fedora affected, OpenBSD not. Just one example among many.
"Secure" is a very broad term that means very little unless you define specifics. Most people on Sup Forums will just have knee-jerk reactions to it without actually knowing what they're talking about.
If you are actually interested, read over some of the relevant presentations on openbsd.org/papers
What the fuck even is OpenBSD.
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Probably not something for you, friend.
This was taken from the old "trollaxor" satire blog, but I suppose showing that domain name would give it away, huh.
>ignore obvious bait
Can I see what it looks like? Is it pleasant to the eye? Easier to read?
>satire blog
>calling "bait"to everything it hurts your feelings
kys
Any good resources to read or watch for people that use linux but want to migrate to BSD?
Something like, BSD for linux users?
How do you get each NIC to act as a VLAN span? Without custom kernel neutering.
Exactly. For the very narrow definition of security, OpenBSD is perfect. Too bad it's a very narrow and useless definition the moment you consider third party software that you can't restrict in any way whatsoever (and no, chroot and pledge don't do shit)
What the fuck even is Google?
You may be right.
Try installing one (or more) BSD and see if it meets your needs. There are plenty of conference talk recordings if you're interested, but each project has pretty good documentation, OpenBSD's FAQ is wonderful, FreeBSD's handbook is good. The best way to learn is to try!
I did install one, but I was never able to use it. Now that I'm comfy using tty mode, I might try it again.
Does it have tmux or screen? (Can you instal XFCE on it?)
>the moment you consider third party software that you can't restrict in any way whatsoever
A growing number of ports have been pledged. A large number with server components (voice chat servers, IRC daemons, webservers, etc.) run in chroots as unprivileged users by default. Firefox has W^X, Chromium is pledged. These are all steps in the right direction, and OpenBSD's built-in mitigations will also help protect against certain classes of attacks that would otherwise work on Linux or FreeBSD. Even just OpenBSD's strict malloc catches many bugs that would otherwise go unnoticed. It's an ecosystem built to be hostile (to software that acts badly). The whole "once you install anything from ports, the security is gone!" meme is a funny one with little truth to it. BTW, saying mitigations "don't do shit" doesn't make it true either.
tmux comes with OpenBSD. It's an OpenBSD project.
screen can be installed. XFCE can be installed. Most of what you'd use on Linux can be installed.
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What about HardenedBSD?