/mpv/ - please show me it can do better

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>madshi's fags on suicide watch
github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/d8a3b10f45eb10fb34ce9da3a9a76e3bd8644e3d

Yesterday i tried MPV after i saw MadVr takes over my second monitor too and i was unable to browse web while watching stuff. 5 Minutes of video play and i removed mpv shit instant and accepted my fate with madvr even though i can't browse web. Videos in mpv are muddy, why does it praised so much in Sup Forums? its literally shit

I don't care I watch my 4/3 anime on my CRT.

With yellow prosubs?

You probably used a too GPU intensive config, it's a common problem because people think its minimal look means it's a player with minimal features. Mpv is an advanced media player with tons of features, it's not just a windows/directshow renderer like madVR.

this is what i have
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vo=opengl
profile=opengl-hq
opengl-backend=angle

scale=ewa_lanczossharp
cscale=ewa_lanczossoft

interpolation
tscale=catmull_rom # $ mpv tscale=help for possible options
temporal-dither
video-sync=display-resample

target-prim=bt.709
target-trc=bt.1886
gamma-auto
icc-profile-auto

blend-subtitles

osd-font-size=14

osd-level=3

slang=enUS,en,eng,ptBR,pt
alang=jp,jpn,enUS,en,eng,ptBR,pt

quiet
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Post your madVR config or you GPU model a least.
MadVR has absolutely no tscale=catmull-rom equivalent feature!

this is my mpv config, i have r9 280x

Any dropped frames?
Did you try tscale=oversample?

>work has resumed on vo_vulkan
>haasn is back
Nice.

no dropped frames its just muddy

left one is madvr and rightone is mpv with the config i posted above. madvr videos look sharper.. i didn't try anything else because i found that config on some mpv forum.

vo_vulkan? where?

github.com/atomnuker/mpv

You can use adaptive-sharpen.glsl and/or SSimSuperRes.glsl shaders to increase sharpen, there are much better algorithms than what the current madVR release provides.

Adaptive-sharpen:
gist.github.com/igv/8a77e4eb8276753b54bb94c1c50c317e

SSimSuperRes:
gist.github.com/igv/2364ffa6e81540f29cb7ab4c9bc05b6b

Please read the shaders description and don't forget SSimSuperRes works only when upscaling.

I just use Kawaii Codec Pack.
Other than the name being web as fuck It's a pretty cool guy that doesn't (seem) to afraid of anything.

Oh thanks! Github search is really a terrible shit!

Why does no one show comparisons in motion? Filters always look great in still frame, but looks weird as fuck once in motion.

Sometimes yes, I literally hate extra sharpen/oilpainting algo in motion.

CHALLENGE: produce an equally sharp mpv upscale to this MadVR upscale with as little noise and artifacting as this upscale, and post repeatable mpv settings for the upscale. MadVR settings for this are NGU AA medium image upscaling, and adaptive sharpen 1.0 + crispen edges 1.0 + anti-ringing filter under upscaling refinement. This image utilizes AMD denoising but you can use mpv's dn3dHQ for an equivalent effect.
Note: your subjective opinion of how nice this looks is irrelevant to this challenge. This is a technological experiment to see if mpv can produce an upscale this sharp without noise or artifacting. Refusing to attempt the challenge because of ambiguous buzzwords will be interpreted as an admission of defeat.

>tscale=catmull-rom
What is tscale?

Source image attached.

If possible.
I usually watch from DVD or cassette, so I don't have much choice.

This is proof that madvr/windows poo in loos like oversharpening and artifacting. Jesus christ my fucking eyes are bleeding. I think I need to wash them with a bicubic filter just to fix things.

>there are much better algorithms than what the current madVR release provides
Such as?

>why does it praised so much in Sup Forums?
It's FOSS. That's the only reason. Sup Forums would openly recognize MadVR's superiority if MadVR were FOSS.

>This is proof that madvr/windows poo in loos like oversharpening and artifacting. Jesus christ my fucking eyes are bleeding. I think I need to wash them with a bicubic filter just to fix things.
Left is unscaled, retard. Chroma alone wont make such a difference.

*they -> adaptive-sharpen.glsl and SSimSuperRes.glsl

Igv improved them a lot!

>github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/4498#issuecomment-307331514
Good.

How do you know that madVR has outdated versions? Also no point in superres really anymore thanks to NGU. Adaptive sharpen sometimes useful but i doubt there will be much difference with the never version.

Why does Sup Forums care so much about the sharpness of still shots? You're either watching on a CRT (Inherently blurry) or something like LCD/OLED (slow pixel response), so you're not going to see the sharpness benefits anyway.

Even for your 0-12fps cartoons it really doesn't matter.

>Adaptive sharpen sometimes useful but i doubt there will be much difference with the never version.
If there was a big improvement mpvfags would be able to complete the challenge and prove it.

it's FOSS and multiplatform don't forget about multiplatform
also it's more streamlined and easier to configure even with the text config

I see the difference in motion. Maybe your eyes suck.

>wasting time in getting the best filtering
>not getting quality releases

No madVR is just too limited by design.
Windows only is THE limitation.

Igv's versions are different than ones provided by Shiandom or bacondither!

For over processed rendering, you should use vapoursynth.
I think mpv is the only one player that currently works well with it at realtime.

Why not both?

>easier to configure even with the text config
That's really a matter of opinion with mpv configuration you either have a steeper learning curve re: memorization of config lines or you need to use a reference for configuration. Also, cycling back and forth between MadVR profiles isn't exactly difficult or slow.

Maybe you should actually be paying attention to the content instead of the lines.

why would you (over)filter a high quality release?

Linux is poor for multimedia anyways, especially due to its audio limitations. Windows has a lot more audio processing options and audio is half the sensory experience of watching videos/anime.

what am i looking at? is this some shader for compressed vids

What do you mean by "filter"?

I see the difference in motion when not even looking for it. I think your eyes suck.

Let me guess,you only use pulseaudio,right?

Nah that's the opposite, linux audio is future proof.

If you knew anything about how signal processing works, you'd know it's not your eyes which cause things to look "better".

If you really cared about quality why are you downloading low quality releases in the first place?

Do you even think about things like this? My life is pretty disordered, but come on user.

That's why 99,99999% of multimedia devices are running a linux based system. Dude, are you still living in the 90s?

No; never used it. I use Equalizer APO system-wide in Windows and I use a VST headphone crossfeed in foobar and MPC-HC (via ffdshow's winamp plugin support and a VST loader for winamp) which I got off the old Changstar forums and which is the only crossfeed I know of which does not affect frequency response.
Neither a high quality system-wide parametric equalizer with a sufficient number of bands nor a high quality crossfeed (bs2b rolls off treble) exist for Linux.
These are only the examples which affect me, but Linux in general is much more limited regarding audio options.

Signal processing is bullshit.

Dude high quality releases also need to be upscaled and can be bettered. Also not everything have a high quality release. Stop with this filtering bullshit.

Is ngu sharp destructive though? I refuse to use any options that are destructive.

you just have to ask a faggot from Sup Forums and they will come with the best option they found with their weaponized autism

You cannot possibly be arguing that linux has more audio software processing options available to it than Windows. That's patently false. The way Linux's audio is structured in general is irrelevant to this if that's what you're getting at; I'm talking about how many different examples of audio processing software have been developed for the OSes.

>equalizer
>ffdshow
You are literally living in the 90s! That's just AWESOME! :D

Stop using shitty low PPI monitors and you wouldn't have this problem. 4k monitors aren't every expensive these days.

>MadVr takes over my second monitor too and i was unable to browse web while watching stuff

That's kind of weird. Definitely haven't had that problem.

Hope you find a media player that works out for you, though.

>watching low quality media that requires any sort of upscaling or filtering
>not having a 24p capable display

It's funny how superior you all think you are, when you're actually the biggest plebs on Sup Forums for needing to use media players like this in the first place. I bet you're all tpb-using pajeets that download everything in 720x300 xvid.

I've done a lot of testing with this and I've come to the conclusion that NGU AA with higher adaptive sharpening settings is better than NGU Sharp with lower adaptive sharpening settings with great sources and the difference only grows with poor sources.
I seek to optimize both what sources I download and the signal processing of said sources. As said upscaling high quality sources can still be improved with signal processing like sharpening and denoising.
>subjective improvement is bullshit because muh signal purity
Absolute illogical, superstitious hodgepodge. When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer. Superstition ain't the way.

You are describing what we call business. Software were developed for Windows because Microsoft was and is in some countries forcing manufacturers to sell Windows with their products.

What do you even mean?

Literally every pair of headphones ever made except maybe the ER4S and literally every pair of speakers ever made can benefit from equalization. LAV audio filters offer no discernible benefit to me over ffdshow audio processing, which contains far more features and can even provide virtual headphone surround sound with surround-encoded videos.

Upscaling isn't as noticeable on pixel dense displays.

ffdshow, lavfilters, mpv, ... this is just THE ffmpeg

>buying meme resolution displays before the 4k standard is finalized

Madshi's fags use $30k 8K projectors.

I'll say this since this is Sup Forums home of the weeb: patrician anime viewers will possess a 1080p display for anime viewing since there is still zero anime content above 1080p right now, and since the majority of new seasonal anime shows contain lineart scanned at resolutions above 720p according to anibin.

>mpvfags will ignore this post because it proves their software is deprecated until it can use NGU AA

4K has two finalized standards. What the fuck are you even talking about?

Upscaling on high PPI still looks better simply because there are more pixels to work with.

People like scaling their shits and and hear their GPU roaring.
Please be tolerant and kind.

NGU-AA is really similar to NNEDI3 and a lot of people don't like them.
Madshi wasted 8 months of his life for that shit.
Please don't compare active people with doom9 retarded winfags.

>lot of people don't like them
These people are known as technophobes. They are more concerned with "muh signal purity" than which fucking image looks less goddamn blurry.

>Upscaling on high PPI still looks better simply because there are more pixels to work with.
Upscaling to a higher resolution does not magically create image detail out of nowhere. Upscaling, period, does not magically create image detail out of nowhere. Enjoy your placebo.

Nagoo+linux

Dumbass, it better represents the source image because it has more pixels to represent it. When you have a "normal" PPI monitor there aren't enough pixels, so non-integer scaling has more obvious distortion (blurring).

Are you retarded?

I use MPV because it seems bretty decent and I'm actually watching that post, eagerly awaiting replies to make my anime look slightly better
>tfw always download 1280x720 but monitor is 1440x900

rtings.com/tv/learn/4k-ultra-hd-uhd-vs-1080p-full-hd-tvs-and-upscaling-compared
>If you're only watching 1080p or even smaller resolution content, it won't give you a boost in quality.

Um.
what the fuck mang

Are you really so retarded that you don't know the difference between "boost in quality" and a "better represent the source"? Why are you even on Sup Forums?
Jesus Christ.

see

I've already posted it twice and a bunch of people tried and failed. I wouldn't hold your breath. NGU AA's primary advantage to me as an anime viewer who often upscales 720p to 1080p is that it handles high sharpening settings very well without producing much noise (the little noise that sharpening produces is eliminated by video card denoising or dn3dhq, which ffdshow supports) or any objectively definable artifacts like ringing or aliasing. I can't say the same about any other image upscaling algorithm that MPC or mpv use, at least in my testing. I'm actually hoping someone can complete the challenge successfully, though, because mpv's subtitle renderer is really great and fast.

>Are you really so retarded that you don't know the difference between "boost in quality" and a "better represent the source"? Why are you even on Sup Forums?
So, tl;dr: you're sperging out over a technicality which has no impact on actual perceived quality. Got it.

Just stop.

OK. I won the argument, so sure, I'll stop.

Sure. Typical Sup Forums.

My "what the fuck" was referring to displaying 1080p content on a 4K monitor rather than a 1080p monitor

>Technically Top Tier: 4K anime on 4K monitor
>Ascended Tier: 4K anime on 1080p monitor
>Very Suitable Tier: 1080p anime on 1080p monitor
>Placebo 2.0: Fucking Kill Yourself Tier: 1080p anime on 4K monitor

>pt-BR

Yeesh

That's what nearest neighbor scaling is for user. Not all anime is 1080p either. LoGH being a great example.

This is hypothetically accurate except >1080p anime doesn't exist. There's usually one series per season at best with full 1080p lineart (KyoAni series have always had full 1080p lineart as far back as Hyouka) and that's the limit.

(That's why I put the qualifier "technically" in there)

Most anime is 1080p at best, which looks better on a 1080p monitor than a 4K monitor,

I *believe* that Native Physical Pixels is a better upscaler than nearest-neighbor-2x, though that would need some testing to confirm

Jinc still the best.

You don't even need 1080p for anime in the first place, 720p is more than enough. Especially given how anime doesn't even have decent artwork anymore. If it was hand drawn anime, I can see an argument being made for 1080p, but the modern shit just had no need for anything above 720p.

...at being blurry.

I've had enough

:^)

anibin.blogspot.ca
The majority of new series contain >720p lineart. You are incorrect. KyoAni and JC Staff in particular consistently release anime that's well worth the 1080p downloads.

Yeah cause I totally want to admire the lineart of the latest Kyoanus moeshit.

Yeah but anime in general looks pretty horrible these days.

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MPV pros... I need good settings for anime watching. Usually 720p source enlarged to 4K screen.

Which settings are the best?

yes, kyoanyfags are usually fags