Im getting back into gaming and I'm gonna build a cheapfag PC. The two options I've narrowed it down too are either getting a used Dell optiplex 790 with a i5 2400 and just putting a 1050 ti and 4 more gigs of RAM Or Just building a new PC with a Pentium g4400 and a 1050 ti
Both will cost about the same. So which would you choose? And if I did go with the optiplex is the TI's 40 dollar price increase worth it over the regular 1050? Or will the old i5 bottleneck the slightly more powerful ti anyway?
I'm trying to do it as cheap as possible and it's main purpose would be catch up on old games I missed and run newer stuff at like medium 60fps.
Isaiah Wilson
Can't your main PC do that?
Adam Turner
I haven't had a desktop in like 6 years. I've been a laptop fagget.
Liam Butler
>medium 60fps need 4 threads for that these days. Get a 4 core, maybe one with integrated graphics, so you can save up and buy graphics card later. Would save up for ryzen 5 in your place.
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Noah Martinez
I can afford a better setup but I don't feel like spending more than like 400.
IDK what the hell I am doing but this is what I came up with. How does this look?
Jason Jones
g4560 any mobomobo 8gb ram 970 scrapyard case and cx400 or some other cheap psu
get it all used and you should get it under 400 autism bucks
Lucas Nelson
Damn, why is ram soo freakin expensive? I rememmber buying 2GB DDR2/3 sticks for 20 dolla
Parker Reed
If I was going to spend that much I'd probably get an i7 instead. Thanks, but no thanks.
David Jenkins
so I dont get what youre saying, thank, but no thanks idk, how much should RAM be
William Mitchell
I looked into the 970 before the 1050 ti and couldn't find a used one for less than like 225.
Cameron Young
Keep looking.
Brayden Price
Sandy i5 systems go for like $110. There's really no greater bang for the buck since the processor alone is still ~$110 tier compared to new.
Aiden Barnes
i fucking give up. Its too hard choosing parts for a pc. I just cant do it. people always say im picking something wrong. I just want something similar to the pc my friend made last summer but not as pricey...
>idk, how much should RAM be Seems like the industry is ripping everyone off. Few ddr chips on a PCB should not cost more than an entire motherboard. Yes, im mad.
Nolan Hernandez
Ok. I have been out of the loop a few years but I thought that the new Pascal GPUs we're supposed to be a lot better than the old Maxwell ones. Too the point where the budget ones performed on par with older premium Maxwell GPUs. Is this wrong?
Michael Lewis
Get an rx 460, better value. How much money you want to spend?
Michael Clark
>even considering a 3.5GB video card
Blake Harris
Looks fine. I don't know about that mouse, keyboard, though.
Noah Nelson
Check for cpu mobo ram bundles on ebay
I got a i5 6400, asrock board, 16gb ram and cooler for 250eur
Samuel Carter
That was my thought in this. For 120 bucks I would get an 3.1 GHz i5, motherboard, 4 gigs of RAM and a case. I would only need a new power supply more ram and a cheap graphics card and be good to go.
Angel Brooks
This is pretty much every every nvidia generation for the past 6 years, they all get shuffled down the order when new cards come out
your options are 970 or 1060 with your price point. I would recommend an amd card but they are sold out pretty much everywhere.
Most popular gaymin card decent price/perf can pick em up used pretty cheap. no amd cards in stock
>b-b-b-but 3.5 Unless yo are paying shadow of modor in 4k it never becomes an issue
Ian Cruz
I considered the 1060 too but worried about spending more just to have the older CPU bottleneck it.
Levi Thomas
99% of your games are going to be gpu bottlenecked on a 1060
Liam Taylor
Get a cheap i7/8Gb tower off ebay for $150 or so.
+ new ssd + video card
easily doable for $400
Eli Howard
*and the 790 mini tower comes with a 265W PSU, so you shouldn't need to upgrade it for a 1050 or Ti.
Evan Morgan
RAM and NAND prices are high because supply has had hard time meeting demand. Most fabs are currently also testing new smaller process nodes (and thus higher capacities), which means at around Q4 2017- Q1 2018 you should see prices dropping soon and the trend of $ to GB ratio get better.
Isaiah Brown
What's wrong with it that you have it so rock bottom?
Julian Stewart
We have a lot of them.
Tyler Perez
Get a old H61 mobo for 10$ Get a SB or IB Xeon E3 1270 for 50$ 8gb of 1333mhz ram for 30$ 450w 80+ bronze PSU 25$ RX 560 or 1050 90$~ meme coins kind of fuck this atm Reuse HDD if you have one Free/cheap case
Anthony Clark
I built this for my parents, it should work for you too.
Just need to make sure the mobo BIOS is updated to accommodate Kaby Lake.
Elijah Gray
E3 1270's go for $100. I'm also not seeing any deals on E3-1230/1240's. Often Xeon systems go for less than the same i7 ones, but for Sandy it looks like the i7 2600 is less.
Xavier Johnson
I forgot I put a 1050ti in . You can go without a dedicated GPU if you want. Alternatively you can use a 1030 GT instead.
I bookmarked it. But I thought I would have to get a new psu anyway because the 790s pci doesn't put out enough for the 1050 ti anyway?
Evan Edwards
Hmm paid 70$ for mine 5 days ago
The only xeon that is bad is the 1220/1225 as its non hyper threaded
Chase Jones
Does the 1050 Ti require a 6 pin? If not it should be fine. You're only looking at ~115W for the system. A card that only draws from the PCI-E is 75W max, so you're a good 75W under the rated power.
Zachary Green
2400 is really weak but it would be a better start than a 2t 4400. You could always put a 3770 or xeon 1270v2 in it later for more cpu muscle.
might just want a console at that price range though
Cameron Williams
I have a PS4 I just want something to play a lot of the somewhat older games I missed and casual shit like bf1. I used to PC game as a young teen and just got back into gaming and I can't aim for shit with a controller.
Jose Wright
How much are you looking to spend and do you have any desktop parts like a case or HDD?
Brayden Green
Preferably 400 or less but I would go up to 600 if I could get some amazing deal.
Carter Martinez
This will run everything on 1080p @ high settings 45-60fps Medium settings will run great
Very similar to the build I had planned(I retardedly thought the g4400 was the newer one) I'll probably end up doing this as it won't preform a whole lot better than the i5 2400 for being 100+ bucks more but as the new i5s and i7s dip in price with ryzen and i9 coming out, I can pick one up cheap and slap it in.
Kayden Lewis
Did you miss where he could get an i5 2400 system for $90 that's perfectly capable of hosting a 1050 Ti?
Hudson Perry
Yea you want the 4560 over the 4400 unless you already bought it. 4560 had hyperthreading and this helps a TON in bf1. 2 threads in BF1 wont really work but 4 works fine. If so you can buy a cheaper H110/B150 board as you dont need a bios update to run it on the older boards. Kaby lake wont run on most b150 boards without updating the bios first hence the b250 in the build I placed.
Julian Allen
Its a decent option but that path has no upgrade options late on down the line. The more modern system will allow a CPU upgrade in a few years as well as a GPU upgrade with the 450w psu.
G4560 is about equal to a i5 2400 for gaming
Samuel Bailey
When upgrading it's usually better to sell the old system as a unit and buying a new one. The high end CPU of a socket is often worth a price premium since everyone wants to upgrade, and the CPU you're trying to get rid of is worth nothing. I'd take the savings and bank it against a future system rather than spend money to shackle yourself to a narrow upgrade window.
Benjamin Cox
The i9 is using the same socket, no? The i7s and i5s should definitely dip then. But I see your point. Im still really torn on which way to go.
