It is good thing PowerPC is dead. But why ARM still exists, when x86 is good enough for embedded? What stops everyone from using x86 for everything, including smartphones?
It is good thing PowerPC is dead. But why ARM still exists, when x86 is good enough for embedded...
Tyler Reyes
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Daniel Young
All benchmarks prove that ARM is pure garbage.
Tyler Rodriguez
I want to play gta 5 on a smartphone. I know a phone like Samsung galaxy s8 can handle it because similar PC hardware can.
Jeremiah Wilson
how about power usage?
Kayden Williams
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Luis Miller
Modern Intel Atoms are low power. I think there is just conspiracy against Intel among smartphone producers.
Jackson Miller
>x86 is good enough for embedded
Except it's not.
x86 is still nowhere near ARM in performance/watt.
Leo Lopez
>he's really comparing arm to x86
user... I...
Jason Torres
Intel tried x86 with tablets and similarly priced arm processors outperformed them in both power consumption and performance
Gabriel Jackson
Jack Johnson
Amd should make a low power apu for the mobile market, intel jew can fuck off
Josiah Miller
Modern x86 is essentially RISC with bloated instruction decoder (well, not exactly, but that's the TL;DR version), which gives "true" RISC inherent advantage. Some intel CPUs are even bottlenecked by the decoder.
Carter Campbell
youtu.be
This thing has around 200 gflops and can run gta 5. S8 has 567 gflops.
Jace Brooks
It's cheap, easy, and efficient. "Benchmarks" on fucking mobile toys are irrelevant.
Isaac Bell
>Intel is bad jew. Benchmarks are irrelevant.
Typical alt-right logic.
Leo Watson
>tfw you're morning the death of PowerPC for consumer devices.
Feels bad man :(
Jason Nelson
No there isn't. One of the main reasons the Atom SoCs were not frequently used was app compatibility... Many developers implement native code into apps. Intel phones present themselves to the play store as x86, albeit they can run native ARM code by on the fly translation. When the developer doesn't choose to compile the native part of the app for ARM and x86 in the ADK it plainly won't show in the play store for these devices. In theory there never was a reason why a developer would do this... guess some didn't know better. Also intel couldn't just pretend to be a pure ARM phone as the emulation was (obviously) not as efficient... And now imagine the normal user trying to figure out all this shit while his beloved friends are playing pokemon go and he can't. even though the app did run when sideloaded...
Jacob Smith
angry birds and desperate validation gaining attempts on facebook dont necessitate processor power, ARM cpu's do 500mW while the lowest intel can do is 2.5W, that's 5 times the power loss
Aaron Scott
>when x86 is good enough for embedded?
I too, also enjoy, 10 minute battery life.
Joseph James
Price, x86 just costs too damn much for phone manufacturers.
In fact the only way we got x86 on phones was by intel selling their Atoms at a loss. And it was great because it gave us the $300 4GB RAM zenfone with similar specs, performance of a samshit note 3, yet better battery life.
And x86 has only gotten more energy efficient especially with the zen architecture from AMD
Also there's the problem that people associate x86 with actual computers so they'll expect the desktop variant of windows running on the device.
Aiden Richardson
>people associate x86 with actual computers so they'll expect the desktop variant
the average consumer has no idea which architecture their phone has
>x86 has only gotten more energy efficient especially with the zen architecture
it has, but the super low power application cases are way beyond the sweet spot of x86
Daniel Cook
Because ARM socs are not made by only 1 manufacturer
And because the x86 instruction set and legacy shit is ridiculous when compared to ARM
Landon Johnson
>Some intel CPUs are even bottlenecked by the decoder.
Is there a sauce on this?
Asher Flores
x86 has a lot of instructions that aren't that usefull such as the SIMDs and the others, a lot of legacy stuff and more importantly embedded x86 is mostly done by intel who will will their customers as dry as the can.
ARM has none of these issues since it can just focus on the basics.
Juan Nguyen
>such as the SIMDs
ever heard of ARMs neon?
>a lot of legacy stuff
if you are refering to things like the A20-gate: stuff like this doesn't exist in the smartphone SoCs as the OS is adapted and doesnt expect it
Hudson Watson
>It is good thing PowerPC is dead
No.
Alexander Phillips
Mourning
Brody Carter
Is that supposed to be satire or are you too stupid to realize how old and irrelevant that graph is? Things change in technology. ARM is much better now. Apple ARM CPUs spank Intel these days
Charles Brooks
>measuring GPU performance with flops
Angel Miller
>VIA > intel
What?
Henry Sanders
What is that pic meant to show?
That running x86 code is faster on x86 hardware? Cause android emulators are slow as shit at emulating arm.