Previous thread: Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.
*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***
Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.
If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following: 0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine. 1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything. 2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS. 3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.
Resources: Your friendly neighborhood search engine.
$ man %command% $ info %command% $ help %command% $ %command% -h $ %command% --help
Don't know what to look for? $ apropos %something%
So I stopped using my arch linux partition for about a month, then Syu'd it and it fucking broke.
Carson Wilson
that's normal.
Brayden Carter
...
Aiden Lopez
Why do Catfish, calculator and other programs not obey the window manager theme like Firefox and the terminal (XFCE)?
Aiden Moore
are those gtk3 apps?
Robert Gomez
>no cemu on gnu+linux why live?
Justin Perez
> proprietary emulator > proprietary > emulator
Austin Nelson
I don't like GNOME. Its logo is a foot and I hate feet, and having the taskbar at the top of the screen instead of the bottom is completely insane. I looked into KDE, and its terminal is called Konsole instead of Terminal, which is also stupid. Is there a way for me to get everything I want without anything I don't want?
Xavier Foster
Fucking yes, it's called a minimal install. And use i3
Grayson Stewart
what do you want? something that is basically windows 7? your best bet is to customize kde or xfce. but you can also just use a window manager like openbox or i3 plus a panel.
Julian Russell
>use i3 Overrated WM. There are so many others and everyone just gets i3 because others got i3.
Noah Jenkins
No need for openbox, just get the i3suite.
i3,i3status,i3bar,i3lock.
Jaxon Sullivan
I use i3 because it works™ and is a dynamic wm, I don't ask much from a wm.
Bentley Young
I tried dwm but it's too minimal.
Jaxson Garcia
Linux noob here, when I do uptime it lists
load average: 0.12, 0.15, 0.11
but what exactly does that mean? I know the numbers are the average for 1, 5, 15 minutes, but what do the numbers represent?
Blake Reed
>window manager nope not with wayland
Carson Ortiz
if you are using wayland in 2017 you better have a good reason or you are mentally deficient.
I thought this thread was supposed to be friendly :(
Evan Gomez
a display protocol?
Hunter Cox
>the system load averages for the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes. that wasn't very helpful given that he already knew that part lmao
Matthew Foster
o shit i forgot,sorry :/
Lucas Martin
>The load average I understood so far, but what do the load average numbers mean? Like what does 0.12 mean 0.1% cpu utilization?
Ayden Sanchez
and it's the default on gnome, with stupid bugs like this bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745032 and right now everything on everything works better on xorg. so I repeat, if you are using wayland in 2017 you better have a good reason or you are mentally deficient.
Brayden Taylor
if you have a 4 core cpu and the load average is 4 it means that in that period of time all 4 cores were on 100%
Camden Anderson
have fun clinging to the past
Elijah Bailey
but dear, wayland is the future not the present. right now is not good enough.
Cooper Garcia
oh, I see however I'm struggling to understand the usefulness 4 cores at 25% would show up the same as 1 core at 100%, no?
Samuel Rivera
you realize that chromeOS dropped xorg a long time ago?
James Hall
do you realize that chromeOS is basically just chrome?
Lucas Perry
ok?
Luke Ross
Should I install it again or what other distro should I try?
Aaron Cruz
this >Freon is a very limited graphics stack to replace Chrome OS usage of X11/X.Org by having the Chrome browser communicate directly with the Linux kernel's KMS/DRM API and OpenGL ES interfaces for drawing > Chrome browser communicate directly with the Linux kernel WEW
Hunter Nguyen
>disgusting feet Not as bad as disgusting vermin. Looking at you, xfeces.
Brayden Smith
if you like arch just reinstall, or try to fix it. that distro breaks a lot if you dont constantly update.
Juan Murphy
>it works™ retard
Robert Clark
I don't know. I love how dynamic and lightweight it is. You are able to do whatever you want. But sometimes I can't give it enough attention. Is Manjaro really as flexible as Arch?
Camden Nelson
>4 cores at 25% would show up the same as 1 core at 100%, no? exactly
Ayden Foster
>dynamic and lightweight arch is much but not lightweight; even ubuntu packages are more lightweight
Brayden Walker
What's wrong with i3?
Henry Ward
Hmmm, I was under the impression it was. Then, what distro is more down my alley?
Elijah Miller
I have limited data so dont want to download something close to a GB. Are distros like Puppy, damn small linux and tiny core eniugh to give me linux experience? Can i install packages on them later on to nake them full fledged OSes?
Ethan Turner
just go with debian netinstal
Nathan Morris
thank debian netinstal
Isaiah Smith
The "lightweight" in "A simple and lightweight Linux distribution" refers to not being bloated with preinstalled crap.
Jason Cruz
looking for a distro as light as possible while still "friendly" "out-of-the-box". I want to install it on my x200, would switch between i3wm for work/study/""""productivty"""" general, and xfce for whatever other reasons.
I am between >ubuntu minimall install with xfce and then install i3wm >fedora xfce spin and then install i3wm >manjaro xfce spin and then install i3wm
do you have any other recommendation? are there any other 'friendly' distro that have a minimal installation iso? also, is there a way to know how many default packages a distro comes with? thanks
Jason Walker
>>manjaro xfce spin and then install i3wm this, that said, manjaro has a i3 community spin
Ethan Jackson
basically this, yeah
Luke Foster
Needs more jpeg.
Gabriel Young
needs more gif
Samuel Diaz
I am aware of that, but as I said, I also want to use xfce sometimes, and I think installing i3wm into xfce is easier than the other way around.
Nolan Campbell
Is it possible to format /dev/sdX directly without creating a partition table?
Connor Diaz
that's a weird way to spell jpeg
Ryan Garcia
needs more animation
Gabriel Reed
needs more glitch
Nathan Long
what broke? it's probably an easy fix, like having to delete a certificate file and run pacman - Suu
Bentley Diaz
or maybe it's because i3 is really fucking comfy
Ethan Nelson
>tfw 4chin doesn't support apng whyyyy hiroshimoot
and my error is this Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ranger", line 39, in sys.exit(ranger.main()) File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/ranger/core/main.py", line 17, in main from ranger.core.fm import FM File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/ranger/core/fm.py", line 23, in from ranger.ext.img_display import * File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/ranger/ext/img_display.py", line 406 * os.environ.get("MPV", "mpv").split(), ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax
I don't know why that * is there, try deleting that.
Dominic Gonzalez
If desktop environments are interchangeable, then what are the differences between Linux distributions?
James Perry
package management and ethics
Liam Hernandez
I did but it didn't do anything. Though, I did get a different error message
Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ranger", line 39, in sys.exit(ranger.main()) File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/ranger/core/main.py", line 17, in main from ranger.core.fm import FM File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/ranger/core/fm.py", line 23, in from ranger.ext.img_display import * File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/ranger/ext/img_display.py", line 29, in from pathlib import Path ImportError: No module named pathlib
Josiah Price
i wanna protect that smile
Thomas Scott
package managers, init, rolling release or schedeuled ones
Christian Wilson
:(){:|:&};:
Christian Reed
Install pahtlib.
Joshua Stewart
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Matthew Flores
this plus package versions
James Diaz
...
Oliver Wilson
That woun't run, newfag.
Austin Price
r8 my fonts renders Beautifully
Jonathan Reed
how did you installed ranger? was it working before?
Camden Nguyen
user if you have to hide your hostname you are doing it wrong.
Lincoln Adams
Oh shit nice.
It works again, but damn, it doesn't preview with mpv hmm. I'll mess around with the config and see what's up I guess.
I installed it via a package manager, yeah.
David Cooper
ed
Charles Cox
Sup Forums hacker detected
Oliver Gomez
i tried that command before but it just prints "?" all the time
Nathaniel Reyes
>tfw "username@laptop" "username@desktop"
Gabriel Adams
what happened to not giving away private information on the internet? I just don't to show my name
Adam Roberts
How can I test this online? All the online terminals I tried, none of them are good enough to run basic commands.
Ethan Nguyen
also I have an autistic naming scheme for the hostnames