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Call me when the kernel can be compiled without gcc, true freedom would be able to use even the plan 9 compiler to compile the linux kernel.
Benjamin Parker
arch user talking about bloat are like audiophiles talking about sound quality.
Zachary Parker
A friendly reminder that all phones (even Android) are non-free garbage
Lucas Lewis
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.
Robert Harris
musl can compile the kernel. Sabotage is such an distro in which musl is used to build the kernel
Luke Brown
>implying Linux isn't an operating system
Noah Scott
not related to gnu/linux but tell me what you think about Vultr
Oliver Bennett
What distro does she use, /fglt/?
Nicholas Perry
I can ssh into my loonix htpc from windows with putty, but how can i connect to the htpc with full gui? like remote desktop for windows
Hunter Wright
clang can't compile the kernel
Owen Price
slackware
Cameron Murphy
>install Arch with GNOME >everything smooth as butter outside of some annoying GNOME bugs >for some reason video playback lags on every player even though I have current GPU drivers this is so disappointing
Sadly, a kernel by itself gets you nowhere. To get a working system you need a shell, compilers, a library etc. These are separate parts and may be under a stricter (or even looser) copyright. Most of the tools used with linux are GNU software and are under the GNU copyleft. These tools aren't in the distribution - ask me (or GNU) for more info.
Lucas Williams
I replied to you in the last thread.
Caleb Barnes
I had a vm there, I wasn't going to use for a while so I stopped it. a few weeks later I received an email that my balance was negative. turns out they charge you anyway even is the vm is stopped, unlike aws.
Noah Long
Nice meme
Asher King
video driver?
Justin Murphy
oh that's not cool. how was the quality of service when you were using it? up to what they claimed?
Noah Mitchell
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation. Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ. One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you? (An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever.
Dominic Johnson
I have whatever the latest nvidia one is
Luke Sanchez
2nd for manjaro
Zachary Roberts
Wow, nice sexism, you piece of shit!
There's literally nothing embarrassing or wrong about being cucked. Take your "machismo" out of here!
Luke Lopez
Maybe not the right thread, but does anyone know if the x220 is still being worked on for Libreboot support? There was some news about it a while back and minifree.org was even taking pre-orders for pre-flashed x220s which they assumed they might be able to ship out by the end of the year, but they've since removed the page and I haven't been able to find out anything else about it recently.
Ayden Lee
In 1998 when a United Airlines plane was waiting in the queue at Washington Dulles International Airport for take-off to New Orleans (where a Usenix conference was taking place), one man stood up from his seat, demanded that they stop waiting in the queue and be permitted to deplane. Even after orders from the crew and a pilot from the cockpit he refused to sit down. The plane exited the queue and returned to the airport gangway. Security personnel ran onto the plane and removed this man, Richard Stallman, from the plane. After Richard was removed from the plane, everyone else stayed onboard and continued their journey to New Orleans. A few OpenBSD developers were on that same plane, seated very closeby, so we have an accurate story of the events.
This is the man who presumes that he should preach to us about morality, freedom, and what is best for us. He believes it is his God-given role to tell us what is best for us, when he has shown that he takes actions which are not best for everyone. He prefers actions which he thinks are best for him -- and him alone -- and then lies to the public. Richard Stallman is no Spock.
We release our software in ways that are maximally free. We remove all restrictions on use and distribution, but leave a requirement to be known as the authors. We follow a pattern of free source code distribution that started in the mid-1980's in Berkeley, from before Richard Stallman had any powerful influence which he could use so falsely.
Colton Baker
I didn't do much, so I don't have an opinion.
Christian Price
big if true.
Leo Powell
This is the only option. Switch to Fedora, stop tinkering with low-level problems every time I try to make sure newbies know what you whiny fucks wanted? Is utorrent 2.2.1/2.0.4 ever going to be known as the 600s but why would you not recommend those?
Nathaniel King
Disregard him. He doesn't actually use those things together. He just read somewhere that they exist and he thinks they're cool and edgy, so he keep roleplaying on here that he's using them and "special".
Benjamin Anderson
alright well thanks anyway
Zachary Morales
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Jason Lewis
Holy shit I just ssh"ed into my router for the first time. What can i do? Can it play gaymes???
Levi Butler
Both phones can be had for the same price tag but for sure not un-playable tier. This may finally prompt me to buy something more specialist.
Nathaniel Watson
>clang Why not GCC?
Xavier Long
This is beyond stupity. Holy crap.
Jason Robinson
I don't watch cartoons, sorry.
Oliver Gutierrez
probably doom, maybe skyrim
Austin Gray
I use sabotage,alpine and devuan on my machines. I dont need gnu for anything
Josiah Fisher
It's called "propaganda", son.
Aaron Barnes
DELET THIS
Logan Morris
>devuan lmao, what a retard
Gavin Cooper
>devuan
Isaiah Hill
This. Don't say Linux when you mean to say GNU/Linux, and there won't be any issues when you say Linux and mean the kernel.
Zachary Jones
systemd faggot. No one needs that nonsense >noone on the dev team uses that feature,of our our project,so we need a patch GREAT DEVELOPER
Evan White
I laughed because you have no clue about what you're copy pasting.
James Myers
screenfetch or neofetch and why?
John Watson
people who hate gnu software should just use bsd.
Isaiah Torres
bsd is shit
Justin Hall
Why should one hate GNU software?
Jason Ortiz
>mfw BSD doesn't have as many drivers as Linux
Aiden James
because its directly related to autistic stallman.And i dont want to feed his fuel that he owns the Linux environment because he has 2% of the programs installed on it
Thomas Ross
Actually the only people who hate GNU are BSD people (which should actually be thankful to RMS that they aren't still proprietary).
Gavin White
Thoughts on systemd?
Camden Davis
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Anthony Stewart
Don't take the bait.
Jordan Rodriguez
Stallman doesn't develop any software anymore. you seem to care more about politics than the software itself, just like the SJW people.
Parker Hughes
I'm just trying to derail the "Free software is shit" ride.
Jack Edwards
I despise stallman and the bullshit he pulls. Its not gnushit/Linux. Its Linux. I use a Linux environment. He was popular in the 80's for making gnu and emacs.He has NOTHING ELSE TO HIS FUCKING NAME since the 80's.Yet he parades around with his "oughts" and imposes himself on everyone else. He is a washed up hasbeen that deserves nothing
pic related.Its him sperging out at a conference last year in south america
Owen Perry
Im currently installing gentoo with systemd
Lincoln Richardson
I want to run a headless torrent box at home. What is a good way for sharing/transfering files in a GNU/Linux environment? Something like folder sharing in Windows, but I don't want to use Samba because I have no Windows machines.
Henry Sanchez
nfs ftp sftp
Mason Lee
why gentoo? why systemd?
Aaron Wood
>I despise stallman and the bullshit he pulls. Then you are not welcome in this board. Kindly fuck off.
Ethan Perry
rsync
Lucas Thompson
Learn proper grammar faggot gnu/Linux Thread gnu OR Linux thread
It's a crappy old 32 bit laptop that doesn't even have a working optical drive. I want to squeeze out whatever performance I can, so i went for gentoo. I use systemd because I'm already used to it and currently there's no competitive alternative to it.
William Cox
openrc
Dylan Bell
Enjoy the 0,04% performance boost in certain aspects and the 10000% increase of package installation time.
Jeremiah Campbell
Nice meme
Thomas Watson
It's not a meme, its fact
Connor Foster
user, do you install 4000 packages every day? do you reinstall you OS weekly?
Anthony Jackson
>If I repeat the lie as often as possible, people will start to take it as fact
Xavier Rivera
You are going to gain abysmal "performance" gain.No matter what USE flags or C flags you use, its minor "performance" gain.Even on bigger packages like browsers its minimal at best.
Brayden Parker
No, but I update 20 packages weekly. There's a high probability that one of the bigger ones will be amongst them. Compiling GTK3 for example takes almost 30 minutes on my CPU and my CPU is significantly better than his.
Josiah Russell
Sometimes default packages has features that the user didn't want or didn't enable features that they wanted, that's the convenience of compiling your packages.
Austin Parker
openrc isn't at a point where it could beat systemd.
i'm installing gentoo. i don't care about package installation time.
Jacob Phillips
how the fuck do i type @ on linux? a + 64 is not working, nor is ctrl + alt + v... super annoying
Cooper Moore
that depends on your keyboard layout
Matthew Morgan
Im not arguing compiling them your self.But you arent going to be modifying every package. The performance "gain" is a meme. Sure enable or disable shit but dont act like your shit is going to perform 100000X faster
openrc is way better then systemd shit, and its a proper sysinit system and not a parasite binary blob inducing clusterfuck that is systemd
I want my init system to be an init system.Not an entire binary blob ecosystem with bloat
Zachary Taylor
I've seen more false flags go on about muh performance increase than actual gentoo users.
Jonathan Morales
Systemd people are not trying to make a init. the are making an OS, systemd/linux that's good or bad, but it's just a matter of time before there is a systemd-libc, systemd-shell, etc.
Landon Jackson
They were an init system before pottering got a red hat contract and started fucking everything up
Adrian Evans
>binary blob >binary binary large object
How to spot someone who's only parrotting memes he saw on here or elsewhere. You know nothing about the topic you're taking a stance about. You're pathetic and embarrassing. Kill yourself you idiot.
Cameron Young
you're arguing on a philosophical level. i fully know that it's proper unix philosophy. systemd is not, but also with purpose. they want to keep these features together to make it faster and less shit. right now it's working better than the 'proper' modular alternatives. having systemd around is good because it forces other developers to make their stuff better.
also, if my system will be just a little bit less slow, i'm satisfied.
Jaxon Baker
sure, it's 2017, complaining that systemd is bloated is missing the point. systemd people want an integrated OS, like the bsd's and windows, like it or not that's what they are doing and they have been pretty clear about that.
Ian Powell
Logs are binary and are constant corrupted despite proper system management. Having a 5gb binary log thats corrupted despite telling journald to only allocate 5m for TEXT LOGS.
weew lad
William Carter
If i want to give access to a hdd to two users, do i just mount the hdd twice into both of their home dirs?
Angel Perez
there is a strong correlation between people that talk about bloat like is some kind of abstract art and retards.
Connor Phillips
>changing the topic
Not that it helps, you're still an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. What do you know about files? I don't know much, but I know that everything is binary, just that you have more tools which happen to know how to make sense out of those UTF-8 encoded text files. You obviously don't. You think "binary" is some magic bad word because other people told you so. You don't even know about the advantages "binary" logs have. You most likely don't even read logs. Also it's not one big file, idiot, there's something called file rotation.
Holy shit, I don't know much, but I know enough to realize how stupid you are with your parroted claims. Maybe it's time for you to go on a blog now and copy paste more opinions you find cool? No?
Samuel Reyes
Binary logs need an external tool to be read,as they are binary data and not plain text.
With other init systems and other logging systems i can use my text editor of choice and look at the files.With systemd i am restricted to using journald as it has the proper way to read the binary logs.
I know you're really trying her to nit pick certain things instead of responding to the entirety of the post, but its simply not going to work,and you look foolish
Ian Thomas
Please be civil. I know having to read parroted opinions daily is tiresome and rage inducing, but this is supposed to be a friendly thread. Be the better person by replying in a civil manner and informing the other about their mistakes and uncritical assumptions.
Cooper Gutierrez
the proper way is to have the users in the same group (remember users can be in multiple groups) and gave group permission to the hd, and mount it wherever you want.
Lucas Thompson
Í see, thanks. Also where is that file into which i can put my mount command so it gets mounted automatically at boot so i don't have to type mount every time?
