Almost every startup in Silicon Valley is 100% Macs. Even on that TV show, it's Macs.
Why is Mac #1 computer for startups?
Why is Google like 95% Macs?
Why is Facebook 99% Macs?
Why are screenshots for all the top projects on Github from macOS?
What is going on????
Pic related: average SV startup.
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it's unix (sharing many tools with linux, the usual deploy target) with a good UI (unlike linux)
2 rupees have been deposited in your designated shitting street Ranjeet.
Macs are for the picture or when they do presentations.
They do the real work on Linux or Windows based workstations
>unix
a certified unix made almost from scratch. It doesn't share code with the old-school unices.
>sharing many tools with linux
They're outdated tools (from before the GPLv3 transition). Most people end installing macports or homebrew for real development
>good UI
granted
and everyone here gives 0 shits
why do you poojeets keep using /g as a place to advertise your shitty products?
>from scratch
Literally hackjob on top of hackjob on top of hackjob on top of hackjob on top of hackjob on top of hackjob on top of hackjob.
Because they're nice laptops running a comfy OS. Non-aspie developers are able to recognize this.
Sup Forumsentoofags love parroting the same shit other anons do, even without valid reasoning, nothing other than to fit in (with the other degenerates). Most people here I'd wager are borderline mentally ill and/or pretty poor (moreso than average, at the very least) ... And you wonder why they hate on an expensive laptop thats commonly used by socially adept and successful people? The whole picture is blatantly obvious.
It's like famous people always wearing beats when they obviously aren't the best headphone.
fatty numales and gay asians
>every OS ever
>2006-2015
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel admitted it's shit and went back to solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>shit tier 1mm travel chiclet kb
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats constantly from abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz due to chronic overheating problems
>retina meme for "pros" have have gloss mirror coating impossible to use with overhead lighting
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
>shitbook air even worse with glossy 1366x768 TN eye cancer
>systemic battery explosion problems for over a decade
>2016+
9to5mac.com
youtube.com
>can't use any existing TB3 devices
>can't use USB and wifi at the same time
>ultra shit tier zero travel kb
>keyboard louder than WWII cricket
>memetouch emojibar
>no USB-A
>no escape
>soldered ram
>soldered SSD
>tamper tape on battery screws
>applel falls for their own thin meme and uses 54WH battery
>2 hour battery life
howtogeek.com
>it's 2017 and moving folders around in finder will STILL cause massive data loss
>macshit is good
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
Because they're elegant and just werk
why would they use a $80 dollar thinkpad found at a local thrift store?
Because all those companies make software for Windows, macOS and Linux and no other machine can easily run all 3. They use it because macOS support is locked to a single platform.
Apple products are marketed to be 'exclusive'. It's why apple users tend to be rich (Yes, also the price tag), uptight and what not.
So being in a company like fb or google must reflect on their gear so they get macs and shit. I mean its provided by the company anyway.
Same shit in other companies that hold themselves in high standard. It's gotta be a mac cause we rich .
Dude no one gives a shit. Do you really think Facebook and Google, that have more money than several countries, need to use a fucking laptop brand to prove their wealth? They could fucking buy people.
They use them because they make software for all major platforms and there's no macOS/iOS support outside of macs.
Because Silion Valley stopped being a tech hub and became a hipster mecca years ago.
... yet they make everything you use daily.
Cause it just werks. Developers can focus on their tasks and don't waste his time to fuck with Linux based OS.
Win < Lin < Mac
They make almost nothing I use. None of my PC parts are dseigned by a Silicon Valley company, nor built their, my OS isn't made in Silicon Valley. None of my daily work software is made there, my phone isn't made there, it's not designed there.
But Linux works fine.
LMAO
> uptight
You think rich people are inherently uptight. Haha, you're the uptight one if you think this
Not an argument.
>implying it doesn't
Even more obscure distros like Qubes work just fine.
Because "Startups" are usually wasting time, money, and employees on pointless shit to begin with.
Take a look at what the Executive Branch of the United States Government is using while monitoring the Bin Laden raid in the situation room.
THIS is what getting shit done looks like.
I almost want to believe that summerfagging is real but I keep forgetting I'm not on Sup Forums.
>2011
lmao
All those people are browsing or writing documents. Who gives a shit what they use, even FreeBSD would suit their work.
Monitoring and communicating with one of the most important Navy raids in American history requires more software than just the ability to write a PDF, I assure you.
>using documents as coasters
Thank God that plebian negro is gone.
>Linux is a hackjob
Maybe your distro is a hackjob, but mine sure as hell isn't.
even they ditched garbage PCs and chinkbooks!
Poorfags BTFO!
Governments make mistakes all the time.
Also
>Implying these aren't custom made non-botnet supermacs that don't actually get sold to anyone
Does it? Like what? An encrypted messaging channel? Yeah, totally obscure tech unavailable outside of macOS.
SSH from the unix terminal and social points. That is it. I fucking hate typing on a mac. Though most of the newer laptops from everyone have become shittier.
apple marketing
You can get macshit cheap or even free if you advertise it like that
if you're famous you might even get paid
it's product placement to sell apple shit
>using the table as a coaster
Thank God we have a real president now
>Normie tier
They are fucking stupid
Leading multiple meetings
Windows user here/company laptop
Other person tries to present screen
Takes 20+ minutes can't present with apple
Nobody knows how to make it work
The apple guys in the room "dont know"
scrap it and load presentation on windows..
Day goes by, another person needs to present
Apple doesn't work
Have to do the same shit again bridge multiple computers since the apple can't connect to a tv or even the projector..
I tried remapping the left Cmd to Caps Lock and vice versa, something that took a few seconds in Fedora. Can't be done, you end up with both left and right Cmds as Caps Lock. I'm sure there's some obscure way to do it through the terminal that would probably fuck up after every update though.
I work in a investment bank and it's all Windows, there's literally a handful of UX people who use Macs. I think the main reason start ups use Macs is because it's the only way to build iOS applications and you can also build apps that run on Windows. Plus running Windows on a Mac is easy I don't think you can run MacOS on a Windows machine without doing something that is legally grey area and certainly not supported by Apple.
Exactly. They use macs because they make software for iOS and macOS, and there's no other way to do it.
>only way to develop for all major OS's
>best hardware in every market they are
>dirt cheap maintenance compared to the rest
>great integration with other Applel products
>shit just works
>good combination out of privacy, security, stability and usability
>>best hardware
That's a strange way to spell worst.
>dirt cheap maintenance compared to the rest
Wrong.
>shit just works
Wrong.
>good combination out of privacy, security, stability and usability
2 rupees have been deposited in your loo.
Oh fuck off, Sup Forumsirgin.
>dirt cheap maintenance
Well no since I can't repair a MBP I own myself, which is something I'd need after the warranty was over. And it's not the best either, they have no on-site support like the one Dell offers.
>best hardware
Yeah, no. The XPS 15 with comparable hardware is cheaper. And I can definitely build/buy a better workstation than the mac pro.
They're good computers. They're excellent at a lot of things. They're not the best.
>but IBM said
Again, no on-site support. No one cares what IBM thinks.
>meanwhile EVERY other business on the planet that also heavily factor cost of operations that knows better runs all PCs
>one article about one company
>mactard eats it up and preaches it as gospel
Mactoddlerism
cause most startups are started by trust fund babies
>since I can't repair a MBP I own myself
For one you can, most of them at least. More or less.
Other than that, what fucking company does that? If something isn't working, you get a replacement ASAP.
>And it's not the best either, they have no on-site support like the one Dell offers.
Never said Apple Care is the best, their products are. For businesses Dell definitely has better support.
>XPS 15 with comparable hardware is cheaper
And got a much higher failure rate and support costs due Winshit. For Loonix it's even worse.
>And I can definitely build/buy a better workstation than the mac pro.
Everyone can, but it's not as much as workstation as a stop gap solution before a real Mac Pro refresh. It's a very powerful all in one, with all the downsides and advantages of on. Can't really compare it to normal desktops or workstations.
>meanwhile EVERY other business on the planet that also heavily factor cost of operations that knows better runs all PCs
Did you skip the OP?
>nice laptops
>throttles after 5 minutes at full load
Sure thing faggot
>comfy
post discarded
>fit and healthy (sans aids)
>not autistic enough to disregard their appearance
>decent room
>social
>experience affection from someone beyond their parents
No wonder neckbeards are triggered.
>For one you can, most of them at least. More or less.
You mean the generations they don't even manufacture anymore?
>Other than that, what fucking company does that? If something isn't working, you get a replacement ASAP.
Every single laptop manufacturer does that. It's called a warranty.
>Never said Apple Care is the best, their products are.
They're not, that's an opinion. Objectively, I can show the opposite according to several metrics.
>And got a much higher failure rate and support costs due Winshit. For Loonix it's even worse.
This post was about best hardware for a market, not your ficticious OS problems. My XPS 13 runs Linux just fine, but go ahead and tell me how a laptop you never used has issues with an OS you never used.
>Everyone can, but it's not as much as workstation as a stop gap solution before a real Mac Pro refresh.
Since you're being anal about misquotes, here are your exact words:
>best hardware in every market they are
They don't have the best hardware in workstations. Or in laptops (very good, but the XPS is better). In fact, name a market where they have the best hardware. Phones, I guess?
>not autistic enough to disregard their appearance
Actually autists have huge regard for stuff others find trivial. This insult is so overused nowadays, it doesn't have any meaning anymore.
A for effort
>HP laptop
comeon man...
>You mean the generations they don't even manufacture anymore?
If it's THAT old, it's more likely than not pointless to repair either way.
>Every single laptop manufacturer does that. It's called a warranty.
Warranty or not, no company wastes time on repairs unless it's ridiculously small.
>Objectively, I can show the opposite according to several metrics.
If you pick certain things like DPI, sure but it's about the entire package. Most Windows laptops are fucking 16:9 which is cancer for work. The few that are 3:2, got tons of other weaknesses and that's before we even get to the OS.
>This post was about best hardware for a market, not your ficticious OS problems.
Which is always about the entire picture for a business. I never had any issues with Linux either, even on a business scale but on the average the support is still more expensive and problematic. All of the IBMs reasons against Windows can be used against Linux, and that's assuming you're willing to deal with open sores alternatives for basic stuff like Office in the first place.
>best hardware in workstations.
Well ... yeah. Alright. That's true.
>very good, but the XPS is better
Nah. Not even close. As mentioned above, the aspect ratio alone is a huge downside. 3:2 or 16:10 are objectively superior for work. Pretty sure the battery life is lower too unless it's the vintage version with 1080p. It gets more messy and subjective when talking about modern vs legacy ports though and then there is the whole OS question. If you don't like mac OS, it all doesn't matter and Macbooks would be definitely inferior. Then again, if you want to develop for all systems, all the preferences become irrelevant since there is literally only Applel.
>Normie tier
>Can't even figure out how to put up a presentation on any laptop, twice
Wow, your company must be top tier fortune 500
>If it's THAT old, it's more likely than not pointless to repair either way.
So wait, the new generations can't be repaired, and the old ones aren't worth it? How is this good?
>Warranty or not, no company wastes time on repairs unless it's ridiculously small.
I don't see what this has to do with my post, or with being cheap, which was your point.
>Most Windows laptops are fucking 16:9 which is cancer for work. The few that are 3:2, got tons of other weaknesses and that's before we even get to the OS.
Ok so you pick the one feature only Macs have (16:10) and all of a sudden that's all that matters, but I can't say shit about DPI.
>As mentioned above, the aspect ratio alone is a huge downside.
According to you. I mean it's worse than 16:9, sure, but I can also cherry pick something like the turboshit keyboard and say it's a huge downside (and to me it is) compared to the XPS, or I can say bezels are super important.
>Pretty sure the battery life is lower too unless it's the vintage version with 1080p.
Can't be arsed to find the comparison, but it isn't.
>If you don't like mac OS, it all doesn't matter and Macbooks would be definitely inferior.
Meh I'd buy a mac if Linux support wasn't shit. I mean, the webcam alone has proprietary drivers that need to be extracted from macOS.
I don't want to get into a lemme-quote-and-reply-to-every-line war. My point is: they're good computers. They're not the best. A couple of the points you brought up I didn't agree with (the hardware one especially).
Have a good night.
There's a tech bubble (likely to burst very soon) where boat loads of companies are just handed shit tonnes of capital for shitty ideas which will never be profitable - these "firms" then use this money to buy macbooks for all employees and pay for their exorbitant office rent.
It won't last as I alluded to earlier. All bubbles burst and this one will be no different, then you'll be seeing much less of the type of picture shown in the OP.
>shitty stale daily shill thread
>62 replies
:)
One of the biggest companies in the US
We had to call the IT guy to help us out
I'm in engineering it isn't really my job to setup a presentation
Although I'm also not a mac fag so no idea why macs are so complicated and can't use a fucking hdmi interface.......................
Holy fuck
You mean only for apple right?
I'm working on some large networks right now and the thought doesn't make sense how everything can just die or an industry go dead
But who knows, will we be doing this in 20 years?
It's already bursting, the VC and Angel investors are already taking much stricter conditions towards startups regarding capital investments. In the "golden" times, you got just invent any piece of crap tech, sell it to other startups to generate revenue while raking it large amounts of capita from investors. These times are over (thank god)
>Bragging about knowing how to use a projector
Aw how cute, the level 1 help desk ticket jockey thinks he's important!
>n the "golden" times, you got just invent any piece of crap tech, sell it to
I'm actually working on this right now
i'm investigating a new solution from a new company we are looking at investing/doing business with
Such an eye opening experience though when you're dealing with other companies trying to come up and "Sell" you their pitch
>I'm in engineering it isn't really my job to setup a presentation
Great attitude mate. What do you think you have to do when presenting on these weekly progress meetups? Handing over paper hand-outs?
One second in google: support.apple.com
And yes, i'm an engineer at a large (Europe based) international company as well.
you win
>Handing over paper hand-outs?
I like handing papers so there is something to take away from the meeting
So many people don't take notes and think they will remember everything discussed
You give them a paper or even send out an email after the meeting to discuss on record everything discussed..
This
The only people who use macs to any extent are useless sales people.
>the new generations can't be repaired
But they can, depending on the model of course, and sometimes to a very limited degree. Which all doesn't matter for a business, since they don't bother with repairs and get a replacement.
>or with being cheap, which was your point
The cheap comes from the time in generally takes before any repairs are needed. Macbooks are pretty unique at holding their price for a reason.
>but I can't say shit about DPI
Well, you can but do you seriously want to argue that the different between high and very high DPI is as noticeable as aspect ratio? (Let's just ignore that the chance to run in software that has problems with hidpi is higher on XPS) I am sure we can find tons of little things the other would see as a big deal. Take the speakers and camera position on Macbooks, while you prefer the bezels or keyboard. Hence the focus when comparing should be objective stuff, and the entire picture. At least for the topic.
>if Linux support wasn't shit.
Yeah, it sure is crappy. If you'd want Linux as your main driver, tons of reasons pop up against macs for sure and will overshine the pros. Hell, their battery life turns from great to mediocre outside of mac os.
Have a good night yourself, user. It's always refreshing when disagreements are handled in a civil way.
If any tech sector is going to burst, its going to be startups. Which would require a shortage in good, profitable ideas for VCs to make money off of. If that money dries up for whatever reason, there could be an issue. But I wouldn't be concerned
They could get another job though, I'm constantly being hit up for engineering jobs and once I have an offer on the table for 135k+I'm out..,,
>send out an email after the meeting to discuss on record everything discussed
people will worship you if you do this
Its important to do so
The problem with most start ups the only things they focus on with 100% effort is the "brand" and image. All of the engineers and techs will have no problem finding jobs. There will be a surplus of sales and marketing people jobless when the pop hits.
Isn't that standard protocol ...
>shitty stale daily shill thread
>79 replies
Macs rarely break and the cost of maintenance is MUCH LOWER than that of PCs. Plus Apple has god-tier warranty when shit goes wrong.
THat's why startups (and large companies) prefer them.
>Isn't that standard protocol ...
It indeed is.
sure is summer in here
Imagine if you had all the glory of unix utilities and linux toolchains, except on a somewhat polished system with a good, consistent UI and stability. That's OSX.
Learn the difference between shilling and baiting you fucking tool
>Silicon Valley
There's your answer right there.
Mac's exist in a region between pure Unix and Windows. They are better supported than Unix/Linux, but don't inherit the huge attack surface of Windows computers.
Also, Apple has done a great job at cultivating an image that if you buy a Mac, you're unique, just like everybody else who buys them too.
>god-tier warranty
>have 4x $3000 dual CPU MacPros at small studio
>one day come into work
>halfway through work day
>doing a batch of photos
>screen dies suddenly
>hear an extremely loud bang
>this was with a recent shooting still fresh in people's minds
>everyone else panics and ducks under tables
>they realize soon it wasn't a gunshot
>i'm staring at my Mac Pro tower which has now begun to emit smoke from the edges of the case
>pop it open
>chemical smoke fills the entire room
>everyone evacuates while i open all the windows to get the smell out
>call up applel
>apparently they want to check it out themselves and will void our warranty if we take it to anywhere other than an authorized applel repair place or apple store
>closest applel store is 80 miles away
>drive 2 hours to closest one
>oh sorry we're kinda backed up today, we have to push your appointment into tomorrow
>FUCK THIS SHIT
>forced to crash at a hotel for the night
>get to the Gay Bar first thing in the morning (the "Genius" there helping me was the literal textbook definition of a homosexual SJW freakshow)
>sorry this isn't covered by the warranty, this will cost $1500 to replace the board because we dont do repairs
>this fucking mac is only worth maybe $1500 now
>call boss
>tells me to just trash it
It just burns. ™
>dat butthurt
kek'd. you got triggered, Mr Pajeet.
You mean Silicon Valley? The MC, who uses a Macbook, straight up shit on Jobs in the first episode.
Developers use Macs because they're Unix machines and don't have to tinker around to get shit working like Ubuntu on a Dell. If something goes wrong they take it to the Apple store and get it replaced because time is money
It's why Microsoft is taking the same approach with their products too and are trying to bring Ubuntu into Windows
>straight up shit on Jobs in the first episode
I know it's shocking but not all Apple users are cult members, who are afraid to speak out against the leader.
wew summer is in full effect
Because the tech industry is a bunch of trendy SJW faggots.
Nah, it's the "culture" and what macs signify. Remember, in the Silicon Valley, Steve Jobs is considered a hero, basically a modern da Vinci. Those guys are, you know, in their own world.
For them, macs are associated with this heroic and cool image that Apple has in the world of computing. Which is obviously fake and the result of marketing. But what can you expect from a bunch of engineers working in fairyland.
>If something goes wrong they take it to the Apple store and get it replaced because time is money
If something goes wrong on the Dell with Ubuntu, a Dell support guy shows up at your desk to solve it. Dell has top-tier support. I never understood how macfags gloat so much over having to drive to a store to fix a problem like this is some groundbreaking shit no other company can do.
NeXT/OpenSTEP were already BSD. Rhapsody was a fork of OpenStep.
In otherwords, MacOSX is just the MACOS9 interface ported to *STEP's Cocca API.
You could recreate Aqua fairly easily with GNUStep if there was interest. In fact, the interface modules are already cross-compatible. Mac's Textedit is FOSS and compiles with GNUStep and it runs great on Linux but without AquaWM, it defaults to the clunky *STEP interface.
You think a Dell guy is gonna show up to some "tech dude's" home? They're too busy working with actual businesses that pay more
1) company pays for it, who cares
2) windows sucks dick for developing anything on
3) photoshop and friends run on osx
4) see 2
Because macbooks are light, and they are POSIX - it will feel like proprietary Linux when you use it - because everything will work.
No more fucking with drivers, and years of updates. Macbooks from 2012 are still valid today in many cases.
If you have good IT who knows their way through Windows, you can get the same juice of of Windows in an enterprise. In a startup, no one has time to fuck around with that; we need Docker ready to rock without dicking with the feature panels.
They show up if you buy the support. And yeah, they go to your home. I've read reports where a guy went there and did hardware fixing inside the guy's home.
But it's not Apple Care™
(you)