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@39min. Vega is DOA
To everyone in this thread FE Vega is NOT RX Vega. RX Vega which will come out a month from now will utterly btfo everything Novydia currently has at a cheaper price point.
>Source: My dad works at Nintendo
In OpenCL performance or gaming performance?
I'll stick with my shitty cuda with 20 GTX 1070s for now.
Sadly it wont
FE is the same chip with more ram...
Expect a 5-10% gain in gaming over what you see here
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>nvidiotperspective podcast
yeah, right, you should trust those people after all the blunders and fud they spread
>FE is the same chip with more ram...
technically with less RAM, because HBM ECC is buffered to hell
>gaming mode doesn't work on current drivers
it's same as running quadro and compare it to 1080 because it's same chip, result will be even worse
gaming mode only changes ui
End July announce release day if begins on September or November...
Shit in game
Shit in workstation
Shit in mining
what the point of this card
>Shit in workstation
it's not.
It is if compare to Quadro
it's faster than q4000, and slightly slower than twice the price q5000
it's perfect small studio workhorse
AMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT
I'm Rajeet, AMD marketing president. Delet this image right now or suffer the consequences.
So they just took Fiji and shit on everything instead of fixing it
Is anyone who bought vega FE actually going to run any useful benchmarks? So far they have managed to avoid Doom and Ashes of the singularity, the only games making decent use of new APIs. Then there's not a single openCL benchmark and not a single raytracing benchmark. People seem oblivious what many "pros" use video cards for.
I think pros aren't retarded to make purchase decision on gaming benchmark results.
what kind of benchmarks would you like to see? My card arrives on monday
furmark
The reason its not doing tiled rasterization is it has not been "turned on" yet. Vega is using the fallback rendering method instead of tiled.
When it was first discovered that Maxwell used tiled based rendering there was talk about a lot of software that needed to be written or rewritten in order to utilize it correctly and Nvidia implemented that in their drivers.
Vega is using a predominantly Fiji driver and this feature has not been "turned on" actually all but one of the new features in Vega is not functional right now the exception being the pixel engine being connected to the L2 cache as that is hardwired. I tore apart the new drivers in IDA today and the code paths between Fiji and Vega are very close and only differ slightly.
This arch is a massive change from anything they have released with GCN. They built in fallbacks in the hardware because of the massive changes. Its a protection against poorly written games and helps AMD have a starting point for driver development. Hell even architecturally Vega is essentially Fiji at its most basic thats why it is performing exactly like it because none of its new features are enabled or have a driver published for them yet. It is performing like a Fury X at 1400 MHz because that is exactly how every computer is treating it.
so we just have to wait for fine wine to kick in. i really love waiting for amd to get their shit together.
siggraph hype?
>what kind of benchmarks would you like to see? My card arrives on monday
Blender cycles in openCL mode, luxrender. ashes of the singularity & doom if you have it. Check the openCL benchmarks on anandtech GPU reviews they usually have a list of scenes and software to use.
Only if they manage to at least partially finish gaymen drivers.
CS:GO
Forgive me father for I have sinned
Don't worry, you will buy Navi anyway.
>buying ANUS
you sure have
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A month until release of the consumer line and the drivers still can't do tiled rasterization. What the fuck are they even doing over at RTG?
Sucking a lot of cock and being much smaller than nVidia's driver team.
D O A
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Hello mr. Huang. How's yields on 815mm^2 die?
Hello mr. Huang. How's yields on GV100?
Hi Huang. How's yields on V100?
How's yields in GV100?
AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH
its going to the same fucking chip clocked slightly higher with slightly tweaked drivers. RX will not be substaintially different from FE, AMD can only afford 1 chip design at a time, unlike Intel and Nvidia.
Face it, Vega is a hot, power hungry mess with subpar performance. Vega is no Ryzen, and this was clear from AMD's near radio silence on Vega since January this year. If Vega was any good they would have been showing it at every chance they could like they did with Ryzen. Instead they've barely demo'd it, barely talked about it and the launch is DOA.
Anyone holding out now should get a 1080 or better GPU and be done with it. Really poor show here from AMD. I don't expect Navi to be any different at this rate.
Read the thread.
Just like furyX completely btfo 980Ti?
At best it will match 1080Ti
Read the thread.
>AMD can only afford 1 chip design at a time, unlike Intel and Nvidia.
their hardware is legit but they seem to only be able to afford 1 software engineer at a time also
what said about it basically acting dumb like an overclocked fury sounds likely -
through lack of resources or just sandbagging (or both?)
evil option: sandbag hard and let the hype train derail itself so stocks take a hit and everyone in the know can buy the dip before a few oem announcements jack the stock price back up
gaymurs weren't going to buy their shit anyway
Unless the chips are defective this makes no sense, this would have been scrapped over 15 months ago and they'd shrink Fiji or glue two Polaris 10 together.
Both would do better than this.
Read the damn thread.
All semicon stocks are taking a nosedive right now.
Read the thread.
>it's faster than q4000
DOA, this shit draw 300w
It draws less power that q4000
>q4000
You know than the Quadro P4000 have less cuda core than even the GTX 1070...
POOR VEGA
>vega frontier draw less power than p4000
>it's same as running quadro and compare it to 1080 because it's same chip, result will be even worse
But the Quadro matches or beats the 1080 in games
WAIT FOR NAVI
All those more pipeline joke on intel, amd doing it. you could have stop this
There's a difference between making bibeline some 2 stages longer to achieve higher clocks and going from 20 to 31 stages for no fucking reason.
>THEY WAITED FOR THIS TURD
No one waited for Vega FE? Most kids want gaymen cards.
I really hope there's some drivers problems with this because at the moment pic related seems to be more accurate
you know that 1070 is utterly useless as workstation card?
>mfw Vega
I can only hope Nvidia won't go full jew like Intel did.
they already did twice over intel
Where the fuck are my drivers Raja, you said there would be drivers.
>They trusted a poo
I can understand that you trusted the chink, she knew what she was doing.
But a poo? Shame on you fools.
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>The reason its not doing tiled rasterization is it has not been "turned on" yet. Vega is using the fallback rendering method instead of tiled.
>When it was first discovered that Maxwell used tiled based rendering there was talk about a lot of software that needed to be written or rewritten in order to utilize it correctly and Nvidia implemented that in their drivers.
>Vega is using a predominantly Fiji driver and this feature has not been "turned on" actually all but one of the new features in Vega is not functional right now the exception being the pixel engine being connected to the L2 cache as that is hardwired. I tore apart the new drivers in IDA today and the code paths between Fiji and Vega are very close and only differ slightly.
>This arch is a massive change from anything they have released with GCN. They built in fallbacks in the hardware because of the massive changes. Its a protection against poorly written games and helps AMD have a starting point for driver development. Hell even architecturally Vega is essentially Fiji at its most basic thats why it is performing exactly like it because none of its new features are enabled or have a driver published for them yet. It is performing like a Fury X at 1400 MHz because that is exactly how every computer is treating it.
This is new Intel graphic processor unit, yes?
I'd trust a poo than a leather jacket man of 1.7% yields and many woodscrews.
Raja explicitly said there wont be drivers and wait for RX
yes
it's Intel's and AMD's partnership
Intel provides CPU housefires
AMD provides GPU housefires
perfect housefire combo
>AMD can only afford 1 chip design at a time, unlike Intel and Nvidia.
They managed to do Polaris 10 and 11 simultaneously, while working on Zen.
>suddenly no crying wojaks shitting the board
Confirmed that amdtards are the biggest cancer on this board and all of them are back to r/amd after vega turned out to be a turd.
Seems like they used the "old" drivers for FE Vega because it's more stable. Which is more important for a workstation/prosumer card.
They probably have the gaming drivers but aren't ready to release them because of bugs. RX Vega should have them, but who knows what kind of state they'll be in.
The mods deleted crying wojak threads earlier today. The shitposters aren't on AMD's side.
I can't wait to laugh at you later
o rly?
Something just doesn't add up.
It's fucking worse than my crossfire RX480@ 1266Mhz.
And it draws about the same power.
>implying those are shitposts
>tfw your uncle worked for Nintendo (advertising) and nobody ever believes you. fpbfamalamadingdongaroni
>AMD releases Vega just as the last of the 1080s fly off the shelf in the hands of miners.
SHADILAY
the drivers are not there.
see
It's using old drivers because the new ones aren't stable enough yet. And since it's a workstation card, stability is more important. tl;dr wait for RX Vega.
So fucking report them, numbnuts.
janny sirs pls delete. you pajeets are the worst possible people for marketing and it shows through your tactics. similar to how indians act in real life. boisterous, obnoxious and over confident when you actually live in third world country.
>wait for vega XD ;)
>vega will btfo nvidiots
actually turns out to be a turd similar to what you guys look and smell like
GCN cards never did tile based deferred rasterization you fucking retarded mong.
>gaming vs non-gaming drivers don't change anything including performance
>pars 1080ti in FO4 and gets flattened in GTA/Metro by even the 1080
>buffered ECC RAM
>worse clock for clock than Fiji with a wider rasterizer end w/ primitive discard, longer piperline, interconnect cache
>releasing 4 weeks early to RX Vega as a content creation/prosumer card
>new ROCm released RIGHT after FE was dropped
If this doesn't make it glaringly obvious that Vega isn't ready I don't know what does. It doesn't mean it's going to be a 1080ti killer, it just means that it's not ready for "gaymen" yet. In fact, I would wager it's not even ready for workstation tasks yet, seeing that it gets only 35MH/s. RTG's software team is probably on hell month this entire month scrambling to get it ready for SIGGRAPH and RX Vega, where Huang will show off their own housefire GPU. Indeed, this is the curse of having R&D (total of which is half of nVidia's which in itself is like a 6th of Intel's) fractured among CPU, SoC, GPU, and fucking even SSDs and memory. There's probably like 3 of them sitting in a room being whipped by Lisa Su as we speak.
short version: it's basically operating like Fiji and all the new architecture features are still disabled in the driver.
So they copied things that requires even more driver optimization to work. AMD's gpus are already underutilized thanks to drivers and these retards somehow thought adding more driver work was a good idea.
All of RTG needs to be gassed
Yeah, AMD needs to grow to the level they can support all this shit, or just consolidate, because putting out half a dozen incomplete products isn't helping.
>People using the Vega FE for games
>Basing their opinions on the card and Vega as a whole on gaming benchmarks
I'm a tech illiterate mouthbreather, and even I know this is wrong
>Be AMD wait fag
>Wait for mid-range GPU
>Wait for it to be released in retail.
>Wait for it to immediately sell out.
>Wait for them to come back in stock
>Wait for crypto buy bots to snap them up.
>Wait for crypto bubble to burst, so you beat the buy bots.
>Wait several product lines to get a 2nd market one.
Should have gone Nvidia.
Quadros game just fine although they're expensive.
FE is indicative of RX performance, it's the same silicon. This b-but it's a pro card is just amd marketing excuse while trying to squeeze some performance in the next month.
FE uses modified Fiji drivers.
>wait some more for drivers 50% increase goy
yeah wait for it
Quadros are workstation card with workstation drivers and they run games...
Vega is DOA
FE Vega will get actual gayman drivers .. maybe after RX Vega launches.
Workstation performance is on par with a Quadro twice it's price. And this may improve with better drivers as well.
This Vega has no software profiles. It's incorrect to compare it to Quadro. And since nVidia killed Titan, it has no competitors.