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The Beats by Dr. Dre Studio 2.0 Wireless is the best over-ear pair of headphones on the market right now.

Did I make a mistake buying this?

If yes, what else in the price range (under $15) could I had bought instead of this?

Can we talk about other stuff like speakers, power amps, receiver, vinyl, etc in hpg?

Also, anyone have these beasts?

Yes. Spend the extra money and buy Beats by Dr. Dre instead.

The best mid-fi headphones under $200

That's the Beats Solo 2.0.

get out you pathetic beats shill
go suck dr.dre's cock

What headset with a mic for gayming?
I would prefer wireless and compatibility with pc and consoles.

Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, user?

iPhone 7 Plus
Beats by Dr. Dre Studio 2.0 Wireless

Any comparisons on KZ ZS5 lads? I want to buy one. Was wondering how it compares to any Hi-Fi in-ears $100+ and over.

Corsair Void. If you're going for the wireless gaymen headset meme, get the cheapest one.

What is the second best headphone ever made behind the HD600?

Obviously the DT 880

Yes, it's allowed.

But beware this thread is 90% memes so if you want an actual discussion you might consider making your own thread.

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I'd say beats since Dr Dre invented headphones

Treble: The headphone.

>treble is bad
Hello, Jamal

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Master race. Etymotics suck.

Neat setup.
youtube.com/watch?v=4m8XBGLeo-Q

Looking to step up my audio set up somewhat, and am in the market for speakers + a headphone amp. Which of the following options do you reckon I should go with?:

Option A: a.co/3Bkvvjr (Yamaha receiver w/ headphone out) + a.co/62BqnW6 (Micca MB42x)

Total = ~$230

OR

Option B: a.co/eK4BWYU (Cheap lepy speaker amp) + a.co/62BqnW6 (Micca MB42x) +Schiit Magni

Total = ~$210

Already own HD 600s, and won't be listening too loudly as I live in a college dorm.

Thoughts?

>Master race. Etymotics suck.
Post measurements so we all can have a good laugh.

I listen to weeb shit but I admit I still don't get idol stuff...

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>amp that sounds the same as ODAC/Magni
>john mayer
I don't watch anime, so idk who that waifu is

>master race

please.

Been looking at the Sony MDR 1000X for a while now. Any /hpg/ anons own them? Curious what you guys think since everyone is so im love with then

I just refoamed these bad boys. Dipole alnico midrange and one of the best tweeters seas made. 3 separate crossover boards.

>amp that sounds the same as ODAC/Magni

Wish I have room for floorstanders... These will have to suffice meanwhile. As amazing as these sound a monitor's bass is severely limited.

Actually, it's worse. The stupid senn amp has high Z out.

Great vocals, bit of bass bleed, slightly veiled treble. NC is great. Make sure to listen with FLAC, user.

I´m looking for replacement ear pads for my Audio Technica m50. I´m located in Germany and not really willing to shell out 20€ for the original earpad replacements, what should I buy? I don´t want chinese noname shitpads filled with poison.

HM5

Hifimediy Sabre32 9018 optical spdif w/ class 2 5vdc regulated
Schiit Magni 2 Uber
HD800

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I've had tinnitus for two years and it's annoying, but it never really affected my headphone listening. Over the last month my left ear has ramped up x3 in terms of tinnitus whine and my my hearing in that ear has gone to shit. Testing out my usual 'left/right channel audio test' via google has been shocking. Incredibly muffled sounding in the left ear. I haven't bothered listening to music whilst my ear has been this way, it's pointless.

I booked an appointment with my doctor in order to see an ear specialist again (the first time I had to do this I was diagnosed with tinnitus) and now I'm going to cancel that appointment because of my pic related. I bought it for £5 from amazon, used it with warm water and I couldn't believe what happened. Nothing really came out of my ear, despite amazon reviews showing literal disgusting chunks of wax coming out. However my ear felt lighter and I knew something was different. I went back in my room, did my go to left/right channel test and my ear sounded 100% normal. I couldn't be fucking happier. I was expecting an ear specialist to tell me that 'this was it' and that I'd have to deal with it. I was close to selling all of my gear and forgetting about this hobby completely. Wew lads. Fucking wew.

Here's the link in case anyone else out there has a suspect ear or two.

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I'm curious about these too. I haven't bought a new chink iem in awhile and these look good. Anyone know if they're better than the piston 3?

600, magni, fulla 2.

Don't you fucking dare link me weeb music videos again. I wouldn't like that.

There, have some.
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Glad to be of help.

How durable is the Sennheisser HD558? I want to get the rebranded Best Buy ones since they're on sale, but the only replacement plan they're offering me is for $20 for 4 years (which is ridiculous, I remember it being $6 for 2 years before). If they're durable enough maybe I could just avoid buying a plan.

10 years easily by replacing earpads a couple times.
Over ear, unless shit tier, are usually pretty durable, unlike on ear.

They're durable enough if you treat them well. I don't think they'll just fall apart on you. I'm not sure a replacement plan for a discontinued headphone is such a good idea. If you needed to get it replaced for some reason, they might make you "upgrade" to an HD559, which is really a downgrade.

It isn't complete garbage but you could've got chink iems/earbuds that are much better for the price.

You've done it again, you absolute bastard.

I'd also recommend what my dad was told by his doctor for an ear infection he had, but helps with ringing ears: lay on your side and put a few drops of Hydrogen Peroxide (50% from the drugstore will do) and wait until it stops fizzing, usually half an hour. It will tickle/itch for awhile but it will pass. When it's done put a towel on your ear and lay on the opposite side for a few minutes to let it drain out.

I was having an occassional ringing in my left ear for awhile and this cleared it right up.

tee-hee.

Today we're going to be giving $19 (cost of 1 box of Spinfits included) headphones a balanced sound signature, as well as protecting them from breaking due to loosened solders. Here's our materials, minus the JB Weld. The tape is
Nexcare Absolute Waterproof Tape.

I've heard they're basically more V-Shaped Andromedas with less mid/more sub bass and soundstage/better imaging than ZST and overall improvement over ZS3's.
Nice 4K ravine
DT250 Pleather, MSR7 Pleather

Was looking to buy them as a present for a musician. Would these plus a portable DAC amp (FiiO A1 or FiiO E10K) be a good combo?

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Pic related is how I always protect my headphones that don't have detachable cables from breaking due to loosened solders: JB Weld stress relief. I haven't had a pair break on me since I started doing this.

So just how good is Axent Wear, really?

With the hd558 current price is it worth buying them while i wait for my hd6xx to arrive?

Here I've created a coupler using a calibrated USB measurement mic and the waterproof tape.

Do you not have any headphones to use in the meantime? At $70 it is a good buy.

had the kz-ate
they are good for the price but im no headphone sperglord

Here's how the HJE120 measure with the small Spinfits on. The ~10 dB bass boost is consistent with online measurements. This measurement is pretty useless above 1 kHz, but it's useful for below 1 kHz.

Had mine for 5-6 years now. No signs of cracking

schiit stack or jotunheim for hd800?

Jot if you want to try the balanced meme, or some other feature is attractive to you.
Else stack.

Online measurements suggest that I will only need two peak filters to remove two treble peaks, so that leaves me six more filters to work with since I'm going to be generating EQ settings for Rockbox, which allows for 8 peak filters. In Room EQ Wizard, I set my target level for the bottom of the valley in the above measurement at ~850 Hz, set up these settings and then clicked match response to target. This generated EQ settings which made 20 Hz to 850 Hz flat.

This: audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFN1128/NFB1128EN.htm

It's superior to the Schiit stack, and like that other user said, balanced is a meme.

I remeasured after applying the six filters generated by and this was the result. Success!

desu the biggest feature was mainly that it was in one box rather than 2 separate boxes and need the absurd looking cable to attach the two

For EQ'ing the treble response I identify the locations of the two treble peaks using Sinegen as described by wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones#SineGen
This online measurement suggests there will be treble peaks at ~5 kHz and ~8 kHz, and with the stock HJE120 eartips, there were peaks to my ears at these locations, but the Spinfits shifted the locations of these peaks while leaving the bass response pretty much untouched.

If you can afford it, I don't see why not desu.
Besides being one box and balanced, it also has plenty of power to boot.

Schiit stack. Or fulla 2 as the dac and magni as an amp. They sound the fucking same. Only difference is that the fulla 2 has multiple uses, and it's portable. It doesn't look as cool I know. Just stick the magni on your desk and put the fulla out of the way, on top of your pc case or something, that's what I do.

Which should I buy between HD558 and SHP9500?

HD558

After playing around with Sinegen for a while I was able to generate two peak filters which successfully remove the treble peaks and create a smooth treble response. My final EQ settings, after adjusting them to make them compatible with Rockbox, are as follows:
Filter Settings file

Room EQ V5.19
Dated: Jul 1, 2017 1:13:33 PM

Notes:

Equaliser: Generic
Jul 1 13:10:08
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain -8.6 dB Q 2.000
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 50 Hz Gain -7.8 dB Q 2.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 30 Hz Gain -7.2 dB Q 2.000
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 90 Hz Gain -7.0 dB Q 2.000
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 300 Hz Gain -3.9 dB Q 1.000
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 160 Hz Gain -5.9 dB Q 2.000
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 4,040 Hz Gain -9.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 8,400 Hz Gain -7.0 dB Q 5.400
The end result: the sound signature, subjectively, matches very closely the sound signature of my speakers which I just got done correcting with Equalizer APO's convolver. Pic related is my post-correction speaker measurement. I consider this experiment a massive success.
I usually have problems getting single flange tips to seal in my right ear but the Spinfits seal great in both of my ears, so I highly recommend them. If you have HJE120s and Spinfits, the first six filters here should flatten your bass perfectly. The locations (Hz values) of the last two filters, to your ears, may be different, and you'll need to play with Sinegen to find these exact locations, but the gain and Q values should be close enough for your ears, so you can probably just find the locations with Sinegen then enter my gain and Q values and you'll be good to go.

new headphones

I'm sorry no rudeness intended but why specifically?

Is there a ~100$ dac which will be significantly better than stock soundcard? I was thinking of fiio e10k or prodigy cube. Source will be laptop if it changes anything.

Pic related = Post-EQ distortion measurement at ~100 dB, which is quite loud. Odd order harmonic distortion never exceeds 0.73%. Total harmonic distortion never exceeds 0.698%. These are acceptable distortion levels, especially for ~100 dB, which is louder than most will listen at.

How is the Sony MDR-XB950AP/H? I notice there's a deal on Newegg for $60.

Pic related = Post-EQ waterfall response. No treble ringing. Acceptable.
Conclusion: Panasonic RP-HJE120 with Spinfits, at $19, represent an excellent candidate for equalization. The result of proper equalization is an extremely comfortable IEM with a balanced sound signature, acceptable distortion levels and an absence of treble ringing. If you were lucky enough to get a Clip+ before they were discontinued, with HJE120s and Spinfits properly equalized you can have a transparent, balanced sounding, comfortable on-the-go solution for ~$50.

Check out that FR. Not to mention it's more comfortable. The SHP9500 uses some kind of rough fabric on the earpads and headband, while the HD558 is velour.

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Will I notice the difference if I am not(sorry for lack of a better word) autistic about music? You could describe me as a casual user in this area.

i have the e10k and I don't really know if there's a difference between using it and just directly onto my PC (I have a Z97 mobo or something). I dunno if the E10K is worth it or I didn't even need a DAC/amp in the first place with my mobo to power my K702. I'll be getting the HD6XX eventually too.

dunno about laptop mobos though.

I'll probably get a Schiit stack eventually before my HD6XX comes in. Is there really even a difference or is it just placebo?

Not who you're talking to but the schiit amps/dacs are better than the e10k. The e10k is very close, but not quite as good. The 600/650 with the schiit stack, or the magi+fulla2 (more options) is the way to go. You're literally done at that point. It's time to explore and enjoy the music.

If you compared them side by side, sure. The 558 costs only a bit more, and it's worth it. They used to cost around $150. $70 is an excellent price for it.

Also the earpads can be easily replaced down the line. The ones on the SHP9500 are not designed to be replaceable.

I'm just gonna go with the SHP9500. The site you posted is very helpful, I looked up the headphones I used previously and these are better in every way so it will be fine for me. Thanks for the link.

They're so cheap I don't think I'll bother replacing ear pads and will just buy new headphones down the line. Thank you for the advice and the website link though.

I'm super happy to hear my advice to you helped if you're the guy I told to get a syringe like that.

Okay.

I think I might have to pick that up, there's been a ringing in my right ear for the last month or so.

Even gave up using headphones to see if it would stop.

It's the best, safest way to clean your ears. Use body temperature water so it doesn't make you dizzy. Just keep shooting it into your ears until wax no longer comes out.

>The e10k is very close, but not quite as good.
what improvement would I expect with the schiit stack? It sounds like there's not much difference between amps / dacs beyond the weird tube ones that actually distort/color the signal on purpose

>This measurement is pretty useless above 1 kHz, but it's useful for below 1 kHz.
care to explain why? I'm interested

It might help instilling drops of mineral oil into your ears every bedtime for a few days before syringing to soften the wax. That's what a lot of doctors seem to prescribe for residents at long-term care facilities. There's probably some leftover wax that isn't being flushed out.

those look nice, did you use the ones that came with your sr950?

It's not accurate enough of a reproduction of a human ear canal to accurately measure the resonances that an actual human ear canal would create. It creates a small peak at a bit over 2 kHz when, if it were an accurate reproduction of a human ear canal, it'd be creating a larger peak closer to 3 kHz as shown by The fact that my measurement and both show a ~10 dB bass boost, however, tells me that it's measuring the 20 to 1,000 Hz response pretty accurately, which is all I intended it to do.

Your'e right, imo the difference is small. In terms of the e10k vs the fulla or magni, I would say that the e10k sounds a slightly bit thinner. It's definitely not as full sounding as the schiit gear, though some here will try and tell you otherwise.

The magni is a clean power house, buy that and buy the fulla 2 as your dac. As a dac it's no worse than the modi, but you will ave a portable dac+amp with multiple outputs which is handy as fuck.

Thanks for that, i'll look into it. I'm just so giddy that my left ear isn't actually fucked. Ideally I'll use an oil and this syringe every so often and stop using q-tips altogether. Every doctor ever has told me that using them is a no no. I always wondered what they do? if anything at all.

Is the nfb-11 worth it or is it just overpriced chinkfi garbage?

A capful of 3% hydrogen peroxide left in your ear while lying on your other side for ~10 minutes will loosen any leftover wax in your ear just fine. Overnight mineral oil isn't necessary. I suffer from abnormally large amounts of earwax production so I know the deal very well.
The hydrogen peroxide bubbling in your ear will feel and sound very odd. It's a unique experience.

You're probably best off buying a schiit stack, or a magni and whatever cheap dac you want. nfb-11 seem a hassle to actually but, and they're fucking huge.

I should add, use the syringe again after doing the hydrogen peroxide soak. The hydrogen peroxide soak might temporarily cause your ear to be clogged but it'll come right out after the syringe use.

is it bad to shop for cheap speakers by going on CL and just seeing what JBL or infinity floor-standers are on sale? I will look up the models of course but I don't know enough about speakers to widdle down the huge amount on sale without refining by brand or line.