AMD vega went into production with a fatal hardware flaw in which the only fix was to hardcode a part of the bios to not use that part of the chip. The resulting card was an emergency "pro" model card that performs well in certain tasks but has very poor geometry performance.
AMD RX vega had the die changed to eliminate the flaw and this is why the cards have been delayed as long as they have.
-Insider source at RTG
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>Source: My Ass
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And the source is your ass?
this hasn't happened with other hardware
can't believe how incompetent AMD is
its bullshit but i believe it
I actually wouldn't rule out hardware bugs for Vega's terrible performance, but
>source: my ass
Considering it manages 0.68 throughput per clock compared to GCN 3.0(fury) its very clear something broken on the FE model of the card
>Phenom TLB bug 2.0 housefire boogaloo
>programmable
Means you need to program it, which means drivers and FE has no drivers.
Who the fuck thought Vega FE was a good idea?
A new silicon spin was talked about earlier than day 1
Are you saying that it's actually WORSE than GCN?
Yes! Vega is a total failure on every level!
And you know what you need to do.
Wait™ for Vega 2.0.
Pic related in who to fire.
>tfw poo in gpu backfires
Or the drivers aren't ready because TBR isn't enabled and obviously the new geometry engine isn't as well(did anyone even do benchmarks? techreport?)
I only remember someone doing TBR testing and it was not working.
Vega FE rasterized the same way Fiji does it.
I know, I'm talking about the geometry pipeline.
If that's not working either, obviously the chip will perform like Fiji.
Yes, primitive shaders are not doing their job. In all honesty we know nothing about Vega as uarch.
I just wait for RX benchmarks. Speculation is useless.
Yes
A 1250mhz clocked fury which has the same core count as vega(4096) gets a better firestrike GPU score vs the 1600mhz vega
Here is a 1400mhz fury scoring nearly 2,000 points higher than the vega card
>Speculation is useless.
But it's funny. And since we know fuckall about Vega, it makes it even funnier.
We know a lot about vegas architecture
The flaw is in the new geometry pipeline its currently operating at one third rate as the other two lines are disabled
#TeamRed
#JustWait
We have full reviews on vega at this point with benchmarks and teardowns
What do you mean we know full all about vega?
gamersnexus.net
>We know a lot about vegas architecture
Only some high-level details and absolutely nothing about they way RTG implements them.
>This Fury retard again
You can stop posting fake benches at any time now. You're not on list in validated scores and the highest Graphics score with your setup is like 3000 points lower so please fuck off.
is the vega FE validated?
If you are using a non standard bios the score becomes invalid
>amdtards lying on the internet
shocking
I'm going with the theory that shit won't be ready until late August, feature wise and optimization wise
>until late August
which year
This decade.
this century
It'll be called an app later on in the century, not a GPU
this millennium
lets be real amd ROYALY fucked up, vega will be between 1070 and 1080 shit dosent have enough power to beat the 1080 ti im betting on amd goes with the "budget" gamer thing selling as good performance with 2 cards instead for 1 powerfull card -AMD Shill
>mfw gaymer rx vega actually BTFOd the 1080ti
>Sup Forums eternally BTFO
this billennium
>amd goes with the "budget" gamer thing selling as good performance with 2 cards
It was possible with polaris which is cheap to produce. Vega production costs more than 1080Ti based on die size and HBMeme.
I honestly think that rx vega will beat 1080ti when they activate everything in the drivers.
still wont even beat the 1080
>amd drivers are cancer user
Will without a doubt beat 1080
I have no issues with amd drivers senpai. Its just a stupid meme
trillennium
Kek
user we all want the rx vega to beat the 1080 but deep down we know that isnt happening
If the price is right like it was for the 470/480, I'm not complaining
We already know it beats the 1080 tho
Everyone's calling bullshit on this and rightly so, but can someone explain why it's wrong? Or just unverifiable?
I'm going more driver in fallback mode till the consumer version comes out.
regardless of price
300w for 1070 ti performance is terrible on 14nm
Card has a flawed design or bottleneck somewhere and I bet that is why it has been delayed so long
Nice slide thread, goldstein
>Card has a flawed design or bottleneck somewhere and I bet that is why it has been delayed so long
but amdfriends were telling me how much of a revolutonally new design would be for months completely leaving nvidia in the dust with async and HBM2
I don't see how those are mutually exclusive
>AMD has brilliant design
>Keeps fucking it up
You can have a good design but still have hardware bugs.
delete now you dirty goyim
Op is a faggot
I wish I never fell for the Freesync meme.
You're not funny.
we meet again mr shekelstein
Funny is subjective, jewish turbonigger
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>goyim
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>ayymdpoojets trying to derail the thread
shilled
I believe it.
AMD delayed the 6970 because they had to spend time sanding the corners off otherwise the heatsink wouldn't fit.
>ayymd literally cutting corners
Makes sense. The entire existence of Vega FE is kind of a mystery so I actually buy it especially amid claims that Vega FE has been unable to perform tile based rendering at all. It would also explain the crazy delays in getting RX Vega out.
I think they just wanted to get some version of Vega out H1 2017. Part of me wonders if certain higher ups get huge incentive bonuses for meeting release deadlines in regardless of the performance on release. Can't believe that everyone at RTG is happy with the state of Vega right now.
Tbh Vega FE is a good buy if literally the only thing you do is 16 bit floating point math
ye not like the exact same post you just made was on the amd reddit like yesterday made from a amd fanboy...
try again
>knowing what happens on plebbit
go back
I can't find any compute benchmarks for Vega.
I don't give a shit for gay men.
PCPer review and Gamersnexus review have them.
for mining?
Its bad like 10% above a 580
>bios to not use that part of the chips
And still draw 375 watts, just fired that pajeet
...
>I have no issues with amd drivers senpai. Its just a stupid meme
This is the actual meme.
Why it's available for cheaper than gsync, and the latencies are pretty close. I have my gripes about amd, but freesync isn't one of them.
Look at how rushed Ryzen was. It's no surprise that RTG had a lot of pressure to release quickly as well. AMD has been hemorrhaging money for quite some time now and it makes perfect sense that there was a ton of pressure to make every deadline. That type of thing is one of the advantages of being a relatively small company, so AMD MUST take advantage of it. The downside is that if you make mistakes, it can be catastrophic. I fully believe this "leak" since it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that a card that, based on clocks alone, should be at least 50% faster than Fury is this bad at gaming.
I'm calling it. By RX release day, they release new drivers, for the FE too.
And these enable the actual new geom hardware, and benchmarks reflect so.
AMD are just hiding actual gaming performance until they have the gaming cards ready in volume.
>And still draw 375 watts, just fired that pajeet
Most likely doing geom using general purpose hardware, rather than the specialised, dedicated hardware.
The actual Vega RX release is going to be so much fun.
>AMD has been hemorrhaging money for quite some time now and it makes perfect sense that there was a ton of pressure to make every deadline.
AMD isn't hemorrhaging money at all, what are you talking about?
Why are you trying to push this lie so hard?
>123123D chess
isn't it a good thing? meaning that FE is in no way indicative of arch performance?
funny thing that people don't seem to understand when company has to grow perfect balance is when you lose a little bit of money meaning everything goes for development
if company starts to get profits without new product is when they can close doors next season
It is such a high level fuck up that no one associated with RTG would escape the stench of failure. It would literally be the bulldozer of GPUs.
So the people who could verify it, don't want to say and lose their job, and the only way we would know for sure is if someone from Global Foundries or RTG leaked this.
Thanks for posting this, I was seriously confused seeing clocks that high because my Fury X can only reach about 1150mhz before shitting the bed. 1400mhz would be impossibly good binning.
I like you user
but aren't we getting actual gaming, non-workstation Vega cards?
it would be if there was more than 50k of FE cards
initial rumor that only 20k vegas will be available probably true
so all depends if RX Vega is same fuck up or not
Yes. July 30th.
...so what's the big deal then
As far as I'm aware, the only fury that has ever clocked that high was a one time LN2 overclock.
I'm not saying Freesync is bad. It's honestly served me well along with my 390 but had I a Gsync monitor I could've been rocking a 1080 or Ti for a while now and not having to Wait(to) for AMD to get its shit together.
How the hell they didn't catch it at the poototype level?
-Pajeet, did the vega passed all the test?
-No, fuck em, its perfect, burn the wafers Raja!
or they gone "Just fuck my shit up senpai" road?