Whatsapp is nothing but a simple instant messaging tool and got sold for several billion dollars

Whatsapp is nothing but a simple instant messaging tool and got sold for several billion dollars.

Instagram is nothing but a social network limited to pictures and videos only and a follower instead of a friend system. It also got sold for several billion dollars.

Youtube is a video sharing platform, thats it. Still got sold for millions of dollars.

Snapchat is the most autistic piece of shit app ever created which is nothing but an instant messenger with time limits and auto deletion after a certain time period or viewing the content. So far it didn't accept any offers to get bought, but Facebook offered 500 million years ago.

I swear to god, it's always the fucking simply stuff that gets popular among either autistic minekreft kids or slutty american teenage girls with their daddies iPhone 7.

And everytime a new simple ass app comes up you think "That's it, there is nothing simple ass left to be made, everything has been done". And then, years later, another simple ass idea gets popular and then bought for billions of dollars.

I'm fucking sick of it. I wanna be a goddamn billionare too and not a fucking wageslave.

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what's your point?

it's not hard to build these products but getting people to use them.

see Shilling your shit is the key. I mean who the fuck knew what Discord was a year ago? Now everybody uses it.

atleast discord is actually useful, as much as slack is

>hurr duhrr guys why are "simple" things selling for so much
>I want to be rich too
Why aren't you rich then dumbfuck?

I am, just got promoted to assistant manager

k

now go fuck yourself

Who is this semon demen?

This is why I hate my parents so much when they say "look, this [insert faggot here that becomes rich because his shitty add goes viral and gets rich] kid got rich while you are doing nothing on the computer all day. why don't you get rich?"

I try to explain to them that they aren't doing anything extraordinary. They aren't John Carmack revolutionizing an industry. They are just creating stupid ass scalable websites that happen to be liked by tweens and normies.

Oh and you forgot fucking Twitter. Dumb ass site for idiots to talk about dumb shit.

All these sites offer nothing. No innovation, no creativity, no talent, just a platform for the masses to share shit. Why these sites go viral and not yours? go fucking figure.

My thesis is taht life is about luck. Your genes determine how good looking you are and how many hotties like that one on the webm will you fuck.

Luck also determines if your work goes viral and you get rich otherwise you wagecuck until age 94.

Life is indeed a goddamn scam.

I am a courier and thought of an intercative GPS app years before WAZE...now I use it and am still a courier.. I wonder if WAZE buys innovations?

like why won't it allow a setting which AVOIDS STANDSTILL TRAFFIC???????????

moar of grill?

I like Twitter, and unlike the others Twitter hasn't been sold for billions and isn't making money.

>look mom I reinvented irc except shittier

This

>and isn't making money.
Sure thing.

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don't worry fren i just emaild ur innovashun idea to WAZE i told them to give you credit user

the neet is superior

I see you realized a good idea is more valuable than pure knowledge if what you want is to get rich. Welcome to reality, enjoy your stay.

It's not hard to get people to using anything, you just need a good name

You are missing the point

The point is WE'VE HAD THESE IDEAS, but our sites or apps didnt go viral

For example if I want to make adsense neet money, is it worth sacrificing a rankeable name like coolchromedbikes.com for some of these faggy ass hipster names like trivago.com or whatever? (trivago has fuck nothing to do with hotels yet they are making a killing)

>All these sites offer nothing. No innovation, no creativity, no talent, just a platform for the masses to share shit.

Yea, thats called utility. They think about what people want and offer it. Forget these vague notions of "talent" and "innovation."

Holy fuck you people need to take a marketing class.

the part that makes them valuable is the big user base, as that means a huge amount of people to advertise to.

nice

Why don't you enlighten us with your marketing knowledge?

No fun in that.

but ill never understand how even that many people is still worth 20 billion dollars.
most sites say its between 20 and 30 billion dollars.
there can't be more than 1 billion people on snapchat.
that works to $20-$30 per person.

my head hurts

Its not just simple stuff but rather the management and the scalability factor.

Idea alone is worthless unless you have a good plan on how to execute it. Once you execute it and once you can scale it, then investors will buy into it.

isnt the smartphone and app "industry" just a huge bubble anyways?

What's the story with the canoe girl? Does she have a motherless gallery?

IA facial recognition nibba, that shit is worth millions and they are getting normies doing it for free and huge amounts of other collecting data.

>that shit is worth millions
>30 billion dollar company
that is what i don't understand

>tfw to intelligent to be rich

>tfw to intelligent to be rich
>tfw to intelligent
>to intelligent

Like most "successful failures", it's just used for laundering, they didn't win any kind of lottery, it was either manufactured from the start or they were bought with that in mind without disrupting the workflow, the original team may get a big bonus to keep quiet but it's not the amount claimed, the investors pull it back one way or another over time.

As everyone says, it is too good to be true.

notice how you posted a webm of some random girl you will never meet in your lifetime that i know for a fact you have beaten off to before
then reread what you said about the most common social media/messaging platforms in 2017
now answer this: is there a reason you're masturbating to some random girl instead of getting a girlfriend?

marketing and users.
marketing and users.

>all this angst
>all this projection
wew lad, try enjoying life instead of being this frustrated.

>stop liking what I don't like

More?

it's not about the platform, but about the userbase.

by buying over an established site, you basically purchase all its users, who you can try to integrate with your other services.

obviously some of them will dislike it and leave. but it's still more profitable than building a competing platform from scratch.

It's not the difficulty of developing the site/app, it's the scalability. Try yourself to make a 140-character message board that supports several billion messages per hour.

buy buttcoins.

Whatsapp was was worth so much because it was a threat to Facebook. Any business that is threat to your multi billion dollar business is worth billions, no matter how simple or worthless it may seem.

Come on OP.

I don't believe those are the only creepshots you took of this girl.

>what is the reduction fallacy

Stupid Assertions OP Makes for 500, Alex.

Was die paar Busen hat

calm down

aspect ratio is fucked up in mobilw on this one, view in browser.

Google+

> So far it didn't accept any offers to get bought, but Facebook offered 500 million years ago.

reptillians confirmed

Whatsapp has been around since day 1 and established itself as the dominant messaging app in Europe.
The app, in terms of programming and resources, isn't worth billions but the userbase is.

She saw you filming

Who cares, OP is a real human bean

and a real hero

gods work OP, post more

>hurrdurr simple idea nets you billions
It's the fucking company that nets billions, not the software itself. You might think it's all simple stuff, but beyond the software there is:
>servers because what else is going to run the backend
>fuckers that maintain your servers
>fuckers that do marketing
>fuckers that do support
>various other fuckers for various other tasks
>dealing with the general idea of setting up a company and everything that comes with it
>actual fucking shilling, not shitposting on Sup Forums for free
>dealing with company expansion as shit keeps growing
>and lots of other shit you really don't want to do because it keeps you from shitposting on Sup Forums

Also simple things sell. Simple things work because people are stupid fucks that can't work with anything beyond simple.

proceed with more

Twitter is muslim spyware network.
Check owners(real owner,then check what else he owns,then become mad)

>twf to intelligent to get joks

>It's the fucking company that nets billions
No, it's the owners, the company themselves usually arent even profitable.

>servers because what else is going to run the backend
>fuckers that maintain your servers
easy.

>fuckers that do marketing
Here's where the magic happens, because the only really valueable asset for example whatsapp has is their brand and users. The software is as generic and useless as they come.

>fuckers that do support
Customer support? It's minimal at best

>various other fuckers for various other tasks
>dealing with the general idea of setting up a company and everything that comes with it
These companies are also usually terribly ran, with investments constantly backing them up.

Works fine on mobile.

Check Sillicon Valley- tv show, first couple of seasons are dangerously realistic .
If you would only knew how many BigHeads exist and how many stupid devs exist thaat have next best billion killer app
sitting on their HDD between /Minecraft and /Skyrim/pr0nmod but they are not aware that their little app could probablly be usefull
to billions.
What I have figured out, now ,as it is, biggest sure moneymaker appz are VR:^} and UI that is so intuitive,so dumbed down that there is absokutely no learning curve,like none.
Android and IOS are literally 2 pages(main page(one with the clock and date) and home) with small pictures (with literally word that explains what that picis)you have to press to run program(sorry,app) and i know fuckers who still have problem with that.
My head hurts sometimes, i remember back in 90 when actual,real ITnews reporter(sooo,not YT glorified garage rodent) said:"Well,Apple finally did it, nowwe have voice commands for the dumbest of dumb (like, rock dumb)can actually use OS,yay for them,but why do we attract lowest part of society into something that is in its nature so important and serious?"

OP,have you been a bad boy again?
What mommy told you about taking pics of unaware females?
"Honey,look hard and then close your eyes,itll last longer".

>look mom I reinvented irc except shittier
At least with slack and discord you can receive messages without leaving your PC on 100% of the time
>inb4 dude just ssh into your server and setup a screen

Because the 12-18 age group is just about the most consumerist stratum of american consumerist society. Advertisement to them is much more valuable than some random banners on a sub-saharan camel-hunting chatroom.

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If the platforms are so simple and basic, why haven't the knockoffs gained as much traction?

Most of the time the knockoffs don't bother shilling because they think that the hype over the 'original' idea is doing it itself. They were always wrong.

What does that even mean.

>Whatsapp is nothing but a simple instant messaging tool and got sold for several billion dollars.

You're a fucking idiot. Whatsapp is simple to use but it's a complex as all fuck piece of software. This thing runs on everything, literally everything, from nokia shit phones to apple PCs. And it just works. Every damn time. You really think this is simple? Think again dumbass.

you guys are fucking morons, do you know what kind of technical challenge something like whatsapp is? Did you realise it works on shitty old phones and that java ME crap. Also scaling. Literally the first app I wrote when I got a smartphone was exactly what instagram does, but did I have a chad thundercock friend who saw the potential and had the talent to market it? no. Unless you are doing some kind of cern quantum tier shit, the tech is a small part of the equation. 1% inspiration 99% perspiration. And also you need to be a dirty underhanded cunt like bill gates and zuckerberg and Jobs and steal all your ideas from someone else and lawyer up to hook rivals and users into evil contracts that fuck them over.

also helps being a narcissist rich kid in the first place.

>the concept
>not the product

>being this pathetic

Just kill yourself already

According to Sup Forums all you need is a good logo

Trivago trip vacation go? Seems pretty related to hotels to me.

>Thinking complexity should be proportional to success

Sorry to tell you this, kiddo, but that is not how the world works. All of the products you listed knew their audience and correctly designed and marketed their sites to that audience. That is why their were successes. Keep thinking that towing the status quot at McDonald's is somehow intelligent or shows anything other than a deep understanding of burgers. All of the products here changed something and took a risk that paid off. What the fuck have you done in your life that makes you think you deserve success? No, shitposting on here does not count.

>look mom I made IRC more accessible to the masses and fixed many of the problems IRC had

Fixed that for you.

also it gets past the shitty corporate firewall that breaks normal internet services.

Can't wait until securityfags invent a websocket firewall /s

I sincerely hope you lose that /r9k/ mentality. Believing that everything comes down to luck and is outside your control is a false and self-destructive belief. You have more control over your life than you think, and the fact that other people have it easier doesn't mean that you can do nothing. The most important thing you can do is act.

op is forgetting the billions of apps, startups, websites that failed and only looks at a handful of extremely successful products

When facebook bought whatsapp, they weren't buying the software, they were buying the userbase that whatapp had.

Or more accurately, they were buying the stock that whatsapp had (think warehouses). With facebook and companies like them, the users are the products being sold, and they buy more users to sell them to advertisers.

You're oversimplifying things. Luck plays a role, but a lot of the people who struck it rich in software development were either pioneers or had a long history of failures. The guy who made Whatsapp was a poor immigrant. The guy was a random coder at Yahoo and his application to work at Facebook was rejected.

Or, they just saw a problem (like IRC's inaccessibility or Skype's lack of moderation and general shittiness) and attempted to fix it (aka Discord). Sometimes, the issue is not that a product is broken. Sometimes, it is just marketed to too small and audience and does not succeed because of it. As the saying goes, it is not the best product that wins. It is the product that is best at selling itself.

Its not about "simple". There are tons of apps that are "simple' and often replicate the features of the "major" offerings. The key elements on the other hand are luck, timing, and critical mass adoption/spreading. Don't get me wrong the app also needs to be easily usable, viable, and fulfills a need/niche, but there are many apps like that that never make it to being massive, but sometimes even that is okay - success can take other forms, more on that later

YouTube for instance was the first video sharing platform that was universal, high resolution, and actually fucking worked. Soon when it was bought by Google, putting their $ behind it that sealed the deal as it meant bandwidth and a huge installed base. It actually did work better than many other, making it a bit of anomaly, but it also had the timing of being first.

Snapchat's auto deletion and time limits were new at the time, not to mention other "dick pic and other stupidity" stuff like how it literally showed how fast you were moving on the photo, encouraging idiots to drive along at 100mph to get a confirmed snapchat speed on their pic

Most of these apps were just at the right place at the right time, with a unique feature or two. It isn't something that you can plan. Want to be successful? Make something high quality to fill a need and be willing to wait. For instance Signal the messenger application. It is a great success but it didn't grow overnight or burst onto the scene. Instead, it debuted in the wake of Snowden revelations as a project to bring better privacy/security to average users while remaining open source/free software, built on solid tech. If they shit it up with monetization, they would have maybe made more in the short term, but fucked their credibility in the long term They're sucessful even without doing that and the adoption is significant. Its not a perfect app, but a good example of how doing it right can carve out a new niche.

If these apps are so simple, what's to stop you from making some shitfuck and selling it for shitfuck, ya shitfuck?

enjoy not being normie faggot

No, /r9k/ is right in that regard, most things come down to luck and things out of your control. What they miss however is that action is needed to bring themselves into exposure with acts of luck.
You can't get lucky sitting in your room doing nothing. Luck isn't made by actions, but if you never take action you'll never get lucky.

Of course you can take action forever and still be stuck in a shitty indian village.

Well, i'm always up all night to get lucky.

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>be teenage girl
>have all these simple ass apps that are based around IM, video sharing, photo sharing, social networks, etc.

How do these bitches keep up with these? How much time is wasted on this? How many fuckin alerts go off in one day?

> I'm fucking sick of it. I wanna be a goddamn billionare too and not a fucking wageslave.

If WhatsApp, snapchat and Instagram have no ads or premium shit, why do they are worth billions? from where they make money?

Seriously, sometimes Stallman makes sense.

>every.waking.second

I have a 14 year old cousin that I don't even know what she looks like because she is with her face buried on the phone at all times, even when she's eating.
She and her friends spend every single second with voice chat on apps to the point of them most of the time just listening to background noise of the other person.
It's a fucking disease.

So what?

Go vent in r9k you soft cunt

>look mom I reinvented irc except it is friendlier, more intuitive, simpler to use, with way more features and nice graphical interface that doesn't compete for space with your other desktop applications because it is hidden in one of the tabs in your browser
Stop being a luddite retard. If it's shittier, then just keep on using irc like the rest of the pseudo hackers and tech hipsters out there.

>reddit spacing
>>>/reddit/

Yes, user. Life is about luck. It's not your fault you are a lonely unsuccessful basement dwelling neet, it's just that the luck fairy didn't happen touch with you with her magical wand when you were a little baby.

Shut up, he made it up by posting a cute girl

Doesn't change the fact that he's an autist that either needs to be contained in /r9k/ or the site that was previously mentioned.

anyone from /reddit/ posting this kind of pics here is alright in my book