My PC still has SCSI drives. Each weigh a ton more than a current SATA HDD. Why? The drives are 15k rpm server drives. Are they heavier because of the beefier motor or are they actually built to last longer?
SCSI hdd - why so heavy?
Jeremiah Bell
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Julian Stewart
Have you filled them with data? Try deleting some unnecessary files to lighten them up.
Jose Sullivan
SCSI is a dead interface bro. 15K HDD are extinct.
SSD media completely rapes their shit even budget models using SATA interface.
Spinners only existed because they are still cheaper and denser for bulk data storage.
Carter Reyes
HDDs have more predictable performance in enterprise, so your argument is invalid
Caleb Hernandez
No, HDDs are just cheaper and denser than SSD media.
That's why still exist in the enterprise world. It has nothing to do with performance. HDD performance have far less consistent then SSD media.
Once solid-state media reaches price and density polarity to spinners. HDDs will go the way of floppies.
Jackson Lewis
Did their weight break your wrist you fucking faggot?
Jackson Rogers
Matthew Miller
Seagate makes SSDs now?
Aaron Lopez
>Once solid-state media reaches price and density polarity to spinners. HDDs will go the way of floppies.
lol they achieved those profit margins years upon years ago
and have far larger storage capacity limits as opposed to HDDs
retailers are just milking retards because volatile flash memory is somehow easily overpriced and sold to morons who don't know any better
Connor Ross
More thermal mass and/or better build quality to support the internal mechanisms to a higher standard.
Jack Davis
SCSi is far from dead. SAS (Serial Attached SCSi) Is very, very widely used. And will be for many, many years to come.
Christian Ross
NVMe and Optane is what will end-up killing SAS. SAS will die as soon as spinner go the way of floppies.
Hunter Ortiz
It still has to reach price parity though
James Anderson
Yeah, someone looking at a workload going for a few million IOPS won't even consider HDDs regardless of their price.
Then you got companies that don't even give a shit about price and use these things for storage.
Ian Murphy
>saying this while tape storage still exists
Liam Thomas
They're heavier because of the shrapnel armor.
Ever seen a disk shatter while being spun at 15,000 revolutions per second? Those fragments are moving very fucking fast.
Jonathan James
Tape is still the best medium for back-ups and archival data storage because it is cheap, dense and doesn't lose its data because you look at it funny.
Logan Foster
And HDD is still the best medium for being inbetween the slow, dense archival tape and the fast, light SSD.
That's not going to change any time soon. NVMe and Optane introduce faster, more expensive, high level storage but for big data or supercomputer environments you are still going to need petabytes of fairly fast access storage below that.
Justin Rodriguez
>mfw reading this while having a 15k rpm SCSI HDD 1ft away from my dick
Owen Morales
>SCSI = SAS / 15k still alive
Problem with SSD in the enterprise is its damn expensive. Consumer TLC or MLC don't have the longevity needed on busy enterprise systems where spinning disks do.
Juan Rogers
the original long scsi ports and the sata compatible new scsi ports are different things.
Chase Sanchez
Try to install gentoo that might help.
Alexander Myers
Not even kidding, I thought my Wii controller got heavier when I stored Miis on it
Lincoln Perry
>Are they heavier because of the beefier motor
yes
>or are they actually built to last longer?
yes
Brandon Cooper
SCSI is hot-swapable. Good luck trying to achieve that with an SSD.
Luis Reyes
maybe if you have your sata set in IED mode for whatever reason
Elijah Williams
lots of platters man
scsi was for enterprise = lots of data = moar platters = expensive
Kayden Williams
you know that SAS SSD's exist right?
Caleb Butler
>SCSI is a dead interface bro.
The original parallel SCSI interfaces are dead, but the SCSI protocol lives on in SAS, UASP, iSCSI, FC, etc.
>15K HDD are extinct.
15K SAS drives are still being produced and used today, although only in the 2.5" form factor.
>SSD media completely rapes their shit even budget models using SATA interface.
Wrong. SAS SSDs can reach speeds of over 12gb/s with the third revision.
Colton Mitchell
I thought because they have multiple plates
Jackson Brown
It's clearly because the higher spindle speeds increase the rotational velocidensity.
Brandon Long
post pics of your pen*s on hot scsi disk please (nohomo)
Asher Jones
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Aiden Hernandez
u320 drives is still in use in legacy products, bank servers ect that people are too scared to upgrade from. New-old stock can go for some great money since they're rarely available now
Jordan Hill
15k drives don't use the glass-based platters, they're all some type of aluminum alloy. That has 0 chance of going thermonuclear at 15k. The leading edge is only going 130ish mph.
Jordan Rivera
SSDs are perfectly hot-swappable. Some of the pins are shorter to detect disconnection.
ATA was about encapsulating SCSI commands and sending them over IDE cables. SAS is basically a full duplex SATA with longer cables. Everything storage is SCSI one way or the other these days.
Angel Rivera
the kinetic energy of the 15000 rotations per minute make it heavy
Henry Perez
i like how it's pronounced "scuzzy"
Blake Perez
You know... tape storage still does exist.
Plus everyone looks at the cost when thinking about storage in enterprise.
It is difficult to even convince those fuckers to use flash-cache and shit like that.
In my workplace (large storage server manufacturers) we still don't have proper tools to imitate failures of SSDs with nvme (just a rough script we did on our own).