Why Linux is not popular among regular users?

Why Linux is not popular among regular users?

Why nobody uses Linux besides developers and hobbists?

Why Linux has such a low market share?

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Because linux isn't for utter moron tech illiterate people. You have to know a little about computers to install it or even know it exists.

Magic

>Why Linux is not popular among regular users?
because its not 1-click install for everything

>Why nobody uses Linux besides developers and hobbists?
I am a developer and a hobbist. I don't use it since I want to do devving on my projects.

In Windows I will be devving 100% of the time.

In Linux it is 30% devving and 110% fighting with the OS while going on to Indiana Jones style treasure treks to track down that missing package that seemingly every single thing in my installation is dependant on, but along the voyage it turns out that this package was last updated at year 1743 AD and that it also depends on a package(that no one assed to include with it). Solving the mystery behind that package reveals that this package has never existed and people have just used a workaround where you have to pour olive oil into cooler fan at the 4th night of Friday in February in a 5-way intersection. For that incantation to work, one has to have released a FOSS project in the previous night at the same exact location. Also, this ritual is a little bit different for each possible distribution and the version of distribution of Linux.

>Why Linux has such a low market share?
I wonder why.

It requires a minimum of 2 gray cells and that's simply too much to expect from this species

>Okay dad I think the file is in the desktop
>But how do I open the desktop user?
10 years using the computer and counting

because most of linux users are faggots like or and will blame it on the people and not on the operating system

Because nogames

Nobody is interested in fighting their OS for the simplest of things. Android has proved that a streamlined easy to use Linux OS is plenty fine for people but Linux devs insist on terrible GUI's, terminal use for quite literally everything useful, and a distaste for modern input methods.

Because most of the people cant spend 4 hours at day making work that program on Wine, of finding the package that doesn't allow you to install something or dealing with aspies in [insert one of the millionth loonix distros] forums.

Why posts are written like this?
Boils my piss every damn time I see it.

Because it has no commercial, industry standard software and the alternatives are varying levels of shit and compromises. Things people use on a daily basis aren't there and the ecosystem in general is weak. Even even better alternatives do exist on Linux, they're often locked behind several layers of elitist neckbeard bullshit that normal people don't want to put up with.

This is on top of the things already mentioned. I used to be an idealist and try to get everyone to use Linux as well, but it's just not going to happen unless things change in a major way and that's not what the Linux community wants so it won't happen. That's fine in the end though, different strokes for different folks and such.

>it's totally not my fault i have an attention span of a goldfish, the whole world should cater to my african-tier intellectual potential!

I think Linux was meant as a free alternative to commercial Unixes and was designed mainly to accomplish that goal, taking user-friendliness aside. In the 00s graphical installers and GUIs changed the game for the better, yet the terminal driven core still appears to be too difficult to operate and fairly unstable. Therefore the system is accessible and maintainable for real enthusiasts and nerds who have nothing else to do.

>61205534
(You)
Jewish schemes and marketing.

Cuz the pc is shipped with windows, why should normis change

>Hurr durr why is not everyone a 25 year old virgin with autism that spend all his days in home with mummy trying diferent loonix distros and making them work?

>BAHHHH WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE USE MY SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE UNIX CLONE
>BAHHHH EVERYONE IS DUMB EXCEPT ME
meanwhile the rest of the world is being productive on software that works without having to open a terminal

>hurr durr everyone who does not agree with my worldview must be a virgin basement dweller

Because it doesn't fulfill their requirements. Specifically, it's hard to use and has poor software support.

kek

Another day on Sup Forums, another day of spillover from Sup Forums blaming their ineptitude with anything other than Windows on the OS.

It's kind of funny seeing so many of these supposedly really "technically adept" types go all apeshit over people using Linux or OSX. My experience is that it's usually just their ego telling them that "No, you can't be bad at something relating to computers, so it has to be something other than you" to avoid having to admit that they only know how to use Windows.

Personally I dumped Windows for OSX around 2007 and after a lot of tinkering with UNIX stuff in OSX all my desktops have since then run Linux (while my laptops run OSX). At this point Windows has to me become "That OS the clueless, kids who want to play games and those who have to use some really obscure tools only available on Windows". Pretty much all the software I run into, even the obscure stuff like AVR Studio, Matlab, Quartus II, etc., run on ether Linux or OSX.

You're like watching children bickering in a sandbox

>because they're dumb and ignorant
Wrong.

They'd be dumb if they decided to use an OS that doesn't work for them.

Linux doesn't work for them.

They use Windows because it is the best OS for their needs. That is the opposite of being "illiterate". It's being smart.

>What are webserver
>What are databases
>What is android

Linux is all around. Not having a lot of desktop machines isn't that relevant as the desktop environment itself is shrinking.

Why should they use Linux instead of Windows?

regular users don't change their os and use the one provided

And you're the kid who is 1 year older than rest and thinks that makes him an adult.

>What are webserver?
Front-end machines that don't do any real thinking. And yet, Linux only owns a third of that market. Windows owns another third, so they're equal there.

The back-ends are always Windows though.

>What are supercomputers?
Glorified calculators.

>What is android?
Angry Birds OS. No real work is done on it.

Try walking into any enterprise environment any day.

Made me lol but actually a good point. I use both tho and depending on the project I might be more productive on one OS over the other. For example fuck networking on Windows, but I'll do most my front end developer there.

Som Universitys are using Linux on there desktops so they dont run it in an enterprise environment?!
>kek

Fuck why it's true

That's cool, but the smashing majority isn't. I have a B. Sc. in Computer Science and a Master's in IT, and I have never seen a single Linux machine in both the colleges I attended.

Low market share because you actually have to be techy to use it. Even noob distros. I teach raspberry pi to kids 10-15, and they literally cannot do anything unless it's point and click.

>Why nobody uses Linux besides developers and hobbists?
Infrastructure use is one of the few things the OS is good at since it has a networking stack built right into the kernel.

As far as desktop usage goes? It still struggles with issues that Microsoft solved with Windows 95. There is absolutely no reason to be having shitflinging fights over basic UI stuff like windows managers past the 90's.

I will not resort to market share cause I'm too lazy to find, but a huge deal of web being served, especially smaller like WordPress are almost exclusively host on Linux.
Linux is the choice os for Oracle.
VMware for server vms almost all times run on top of Linux.
Java back end run on Linux.
Microsoft ported net officially to Linux.

I know it's a bait, or you are really idiot.

ubuntu.com/desktop/education

>and I have never seen a single Linux machine in both the colleges I attended.
Such is life in the third world I guess.
I'm a med student (currently doing 2nd degree) universities and vast majority of computers from public library machines through hospital/ambulance terminals to CT scanners run Linux or some form of Unix (AIX seems to be a popular choice for anything not made by GE)

>one third
>huge deal
Sounds like you just don't know what you're talking about, but okay.

>especially smaller like WordPress are almost exclusively host on Linux
That's precisely my point. The only reason Linux has a relevant marketshare in the web server industry is due to a million small blogs running PHP and WordPress.

>Linux is the choice os for Oracle.
[citation needed]

>VMware for server vms almost all times run on top of Linux.
Awesome, but Microsoft Virtual Server and Citrix CloudStack are almost always run on top of Windows.

>Java back end run on Linux.
Java = Pajeet

>Microsoft ported net officially to Linux.
... so?

>I know it's a bait, or you are really idiot.
Oh the irony...

Linux is slowly becoming botnet by appealing to major corporations.

Our only hope now lies in GNU-Hurd

Fragmentation and lack of software support

Because most Linux users are smug assholes like this guy, that's why.

>GNU-Hurd
I wished a nigga could.

>Such is life in the third world I guess.
Ironic, since the third world is known for shit like pic related, while the first world is known for systematically replacing Linux deployments with Windows (like Munich).

Try selling computers with Linux installed and you'll find that's DEFINITELY not the case.

One of the really strong points in a close source monolithic ide like windows is that they just hold on and say it's our product. It's not pick your ide of choosing, it's the same and programs made 10 years agora work on any windows ide.
Users and companies will not keep changing ides. Even wth windows shortcomings, ppl stick with it because it's almost the same.
Also office. Office is so strong especially in corporations that it's required on Mac.
Bet if there was an office for Linux a lot would change, corporate wise, with limited distros.

>systematically replacing Linux deployments with Windows (like Munich).
you spelled "getting bought by microsoft" wrong.

It was ridiculous in munic, there was no objective reason behind it.

Its funny because its true
Saved

Citrix is cancer. Windows vm even worse

>i-it's unfair!
Linux is free to buy competitors out too. Even if Microsoft did do it, she didn't do anything wrong or that Linux can't do also.

Sure thing, random anonymous dudes on a Tibetan titanium-welding Internet imageboard.

>Ironic, since the third world is known for shit like pic related
The third world is best known for getting an entire country to a halt because of Windows malware.
There's a reason why the "meme" Windows user is a swarthy Hindu.

The third world is best known for getting an entire country to a halt because of forced Linux-usage due to socialist government regulations that end up having to be undone, lad.

Why don't you start a marketing campaign if you care so much about market share? Nobody's stopping you from doing it.

Good goy
Have a shekel

And as a proof of your world you post an article telling a tale of a a corrupt and inept government (look at the recent Brazilian meat export scandal) throwing out taxpayer's money because a few dozen government officials took bribes from Microsoft.

You really haven't thought this through did you?

Karlie Kloss uses Linux.

This. Reminder that the current government is illegitimate and was imposed by a coup. Dilma and the Worker's Party did nothing wrong!

>The Year is 3754
>GTK file picker still doesn't have a thumbnail view
this and things like this are why linux desktops are a trash fire for normie use

>look at the recent Brazilian meat export scandal
It had been happening for ages and was only uncovered in the current government. So... was that supposed to be an argument against the current government or for it? Sounds like Temer is doing a great job at fighting corruption.

>throwing out taxpayer's money
They were throwing tax dollars out before by using inefficient open sores software.

>bribes from Microsoft
[citation needed]

>doing a great job of fighting corruption
Are you Temer himself or
nytimes.com/2017/06/26/world/americas/brazil-temer-corruption-charge-joesley-batista.html

>link to an article about corruption being fought
???
Your point?

Also, I only see the word "charged" there. I don't see the word "convicted". Unlike his predecessor, they've proved nothing against him thus far.

Sure, he might be corrupt, but at least he isn't a commie like Lula and Dilma.

>he might be a literal kleptocrat, but at least he's not reducing poverty
bon meme

>communism
>reducing poverty
Into the helicopter with you.

Ahem...

>Pinoshit
>improving the economy
I got bad news for you buddy...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship_of_Chile_(1973–90)#Social_consequences

True but consider the following:
- Microsoft has deals with hardware companies, so most laptop and desktop computers comes bundled with their products.
- Most people uses whatever comes bundled with the hardware and i can bet a lot of them doesn't even know what is an operative system and that you can choose it. If the brand "Windows" were related to quality then WP would be the most used mobile operative system because the demand would be high.
- Microsoft has deals with schools, so people is trained from a young age to use microsoft products. For a lot of them it's a question of being a comfort zone, not even about the difficulty. I can say this because in my own experience most windows users never solve their own problems, they ask other people to solve their problems.
- Microsoft has a huge lock-in with their formats and APIs. Independently on if we can consider they products are good or bad, the fact is that they use anti-competitive measures to lock their users and developers. For example their document formats doesn't honors the "ISO standard" they supposedly issued. If they care about interoperability with competing solutions they would use the well documented version of their format. But no, they uses their dominant position to push a version of the format only they know exactly how it works (interestingly and despite this, i have gotten problems even with different versions of MSO). Most of the documents in this format are created with MSO and most people doesn't even knows about the strict version of the format, this makes their format a moving target for competitors at best. Their development tools is another good example if a lock-in, they only care about compatibility on markets where they're losing like server or mobile.

>They were throwing tax dollars out before by using inefficient open sores software.
Yes, chosing to stimulate an underdeveloped sector of your national industry over sucking cocks of foreign megacorporations truly sounds like a waste of money.

>Most people uses whatever comes bundled with the hardware
False. Most computers that come with Linux end up getting their OS replaced with Windows.

Wow, maybe that's why Cubans are risking fleeing to America on fragile rafts over dangerous waters on a daily basis!

Except Chile is now the only developed country in Latin America. Stay mad.

>le gorporations are evil meem
Why are all freetards commies?

Because there is some sort of general belief that linux is hard and that you have to be a computer scientist to understand it and even then it won't be as useful as Windows.

I got into Linux mainly for two reasons:
>I wanted to stop partaking in piracy
>I wanted to learn programming and start developing stuff

Well, I am succedding considerably well in both of these areas, I think. Not as much as I would like, but not badly enough to believe that I am a disaster.

There's not a lot of computers being bundled with linux in the first place and overthrowing the familiarity is even harder and needs a lot of marketing that not even microsoft with all their money have managed to do regarding android. It's not black and white as you're implying.

>le corporations are poeple too meem
why are all capitalists such flaunting bootlickers?
>yes mr. sheckelstein fuck me harder I still have place left for your marketing department

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Majority_(Chile)
Yep under the leadership of socialists Chile is going through an economic golden age

>muh familiarity fallacy
Windows and Office have both undergone major UI changes over the years that have completely compromised user familiarity and they still survived and remained on top. You build fallacious arguments on top of fallacious arguments.

Guys, please stop getting baited by Sup Forums shitposters.

This. Sup Forums is a socialist board. No one here but shills actually defends capitalism.

>Why Linux has such a low market share?
Because capitalism rewards excellence.

Simple: Because it doens't "just work" and a lot of popular software (including but not limited to games) isn't available for linux. Also most people don't give a fuck about security and privacy.

And this is why planned obsolescence kings over the consumer market.

Really made me think. No wonder capitalists are so excited about capitalism if their idea of excellence hold to such low standard

i wasn't expecting so much Sup Forums content here

Tbh they're even kinda slow today, we've had an /fglt/ thread ruined by them not too long ago:
rbt.asia/g/thread/61085554/

These "regular users" are basically all brain dead and can only do what is thought to them.

Linux will never catch on if it's not the OS that is the default one.

take your bait somewhere else

Because people are normalfags and they want something simple to use that doesn't involve a command line, and for it to actually work.

kek learn to linux

>not 1-clic install
actually it's 1clic install and keeps these programs up-to-date.
If you are that retard you go gentoo in your irst time linux it's not fault of the os

>muh development
>muh crashes
holy fuck it just werks in my machines. Buy another are you a poorfag?
Im full time developer and its 100 perfect more confy to develop on linux.

99% percent people are ready to go with some normie distro as ubuntu. they have a fucking gui for install nonfree drivers are you kidding me?

>it just werks
what "werks"? Your notepad? Your console terminal?

>What is android
a thing that has absolutely nothing to do with linux on desktops

Because when things go bad, if you don't know how to use a search engine you are fucked.
If you don't want things to randomly go bad on their own, you have to use something old. If you want something new, it's going to randomly break whenever it feels like. Also lack of industry standard software, doesn't come default, also PulseAudio and xserver keep shitting things up.

Hahahahaha

>Hurr durr everyone who doesn't use my personal choice of OS is dumb and I don't care what anyone says im not being ignorant at all

You aren't any better.

Because Windows just works. Windows will even automatically find and install your video drivers for you. Why would people go out of their way to use an objectively more maintenance-intensive OS when they gain nothing from it? (When I say "nothing" I'm taling about things regular users care about. inb4 "NSA Spying").

Because people are retarded.

You sound frustrated.

>why do only hobbyists use a hobbyist os
gee i dunno

Yeah, nevermind the fact that 100% of workstations in the world run Windows and Office.

Only browse Sup Forums when on the shitter as my app auto opens the board but I'm an average user and I use Debian for a lot off stuff, no means have a power computer only 2.8ghz i7, 16gb ram but I find that Unix is way fucking smoother than windows for a multiple of tasks including Web browsing..

Remember that market share graphs maybe a bit misleading since a lot of the distributions do not by default do any telemetry or sales, so getting a precise number of running instances is really hard.

Fuck off.