Home Server/NAS thread

Hardware, software and purpose talk.

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WD red disks on sale atm will they do?

Hey protip the 6tb WD My Book comes with a WD Red in it and it's cheaper than the retail WD reds. Google around for confirmation if you don't believe me.
Is that really yours? It's so fucking cool man. What are you doing with it? I've day dreamed about putting together a home server for myself and my friends(over the internet) to use but I've never got around to it.

its not mine i have a similar setup from an old gaming PC with around 1x8TB into a RAID 10 config. About to change the entire setup for including of CD ripping and possible VM's for fucking about. Thinking about sticking with Ubuntu Server desu senpai

derp 8x1TB*

I havent given the idea any serious thought since about 2011. I'm just going to blog post about my original ideas because no one is really posting.

So the goal was to build a home server as cheapely as possible while being able to do all of the following:
1. Store large music/movie/tv collection and serve it locally as well as online to close friends over whatever protocol.
2. IRC Server
3. Mumble Server
4. Web hosting for simple personal sites/projects
5. Act as part of a "home lab" of sorts for linux administration
6. Local back ups of my computers

It seems like it's just enough functionality to be able to justify the purchase but home ISPs tend to be fags about you hosting shit because they want to up sell you and I would also have no where to put it at the moment as i'm only renting a bed room.
Anyway I think it could be fun. You rarely see people seriously talking about home servers/labs.

I've been wanting to build a linux home media server for a minute now. Does anyone have any good material/reference on this subject?

I'm not too educated on computer hardware atm

always wanted to make a home server but i have 0 use for one :/

Yes you do if you like a small inconvenience.

I have 14TB that I bought back in 2012 in my old PC that I only turn on when I actually need something from it.
So I store things on my server instead of having everything in one PC and wearing down the drives needlessly.
Starting it with WOL and gigabit between the computers.

The wd external contains an 8tb red, it's around $180

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I have a media server with ~20TB and then my regular desktop which holds another 18TB.

Works for me, I could probably consolidate more of the drives in the server, but I would have to buy a PCI SATA expansion since i'm full up on the motherboard SATA ports.

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3 main servers

1 runs FreeNAS with:
>8 6TB drives
>Xeon 3430
>64GB ECC RAM
>2 2-port 1gbit NICs

1 runs WS 2016
>i7 6700K
>32GB DDR4
>GTX 670
>250GB SSD
Runs a very large Plex server with Live TV support, DVR stuff, auto torrenting with Radarr and Sonarr. Also does Steam stream for gaming on my laptop

The last one runs Ubuntu Server
>i7 6700K
>64GB DDR4
>1TB SSD

Runs a large Minecraft network.

2b more like 2 cute feet (｡>﹏

Should also mention I have FiOS gigabit. So long that I stay under 10TB a month, Verizon doesn't give a fuck what I do. Higher than that they'll "nicely request" that I upgrade to business.

FiOS gigabit is great, especially if you did the move trick to get new customer pricing, or if you were simply a new customer.

TV + Phone + 1gbps for $80 a month? Yes please.

Why do you have an i7? A xeon would allow you to use ECC. Why are you using K parts also?

I've had FiOS since 2007. My mother used to work as a bigwig at Bell Atlantic/Verizon so I get a real sweet 80% discount on FiOS. I'm paying $50 a month for gigabit, their highest TV package with every premium channel and landline. Though I never use the landline.

I've had FiOS since ~2007 as well. Started with 15/5.

I don't need ECC on the Plex or MC server. Only care about FreeNAS.

K parts because they're overclocked, fucking lol. Haven't had any issues with moderate OCs on either server and they added performance is much welcome.

>not trying to pretend he's in a real server environment with Xeons and ECC
why even run a home server?

Because I ain't a richboi. Although I wish I were.

What UPS would you recommend that will play nice with FreeNAS? Just something to safely shutdown the system in an event of a blackout.

if it doesn't cost $10k+ then get the fuck out of this thread you fucking poorfag pieces of shit

go back to suckiing each others cock on the hsg discord

Not the other guy but for older systems ECC ddr2 is usually cheaper than just ddr2 since not many people have compatabile hardware for the ECC

I have shitty internet speeds, so I can't setup a home server.
Is this good price wise : seedhost.eu/dedicated-servers.php ?

I use a CyberPower UPS. APC offers no support. While my FreeNAS server is plugged into the CP UPS, the USB connection goes to my Ubuntu Server. The US runs a script to shut down the FreeNAS over SSH on power failure.

AFAIK there is no BSD-friendly power management UPS software. CyberPower with Linux binaries is the best you'll get.

>APC offers no support
Lol fuck off.

>I use a CyberPower UPS. APC offers no support.
uhhh?

apcupsd should work fine with BSD.

freenas supports NUT and that supports almost everything

Oooof my bad. I was under the wrong understanding I guess.

Reasonable home rack. ESX stack using NFS on ZFS for vm storage. pFsense for firewall.

>faggot colored cables

neck yourself

>having issues with what color people use for cables
>having issues with homosexuality

Neck yourself, troglodyte.

meh, makes it easier to identify which vlan is where.

I want reddit to leave

Yeah, APC also has their own software for network shutdown, but it's meant more for a "real" server environment. But apcupsd is much more usable for a home lab or similar.

>telling Reddit to leave
>when you're spouting the_donald bullshit

Nah, get the fuck out of hsg and Sup Forums.

I want newfag pol tards to leave and stop pretending they were here first.

If you don't remember that pol was originally a leftist political board, you're too new to be here.

Anyone here run pfsense in a vm? I wouldn't see why it wouldn't work but in some threads I saw people cry running it in a VM has security issues (like if the host gets some malware for example)

does APC have anything in the price range of cyberpower? Last I looked 1500W backups were 400+.

I used to, but the idea is that if your hypervisor were compromised your firewall (and supporting services) would be as well.

What's a cheap case that will let me store an ungodly amount of HDDs like in OP's image?

Home servers are a meme

Rackable or stand alone?

Standalone

I really like the idea of storing all my shit in one centralised place that I can turn on as and when I need it. Will probably look into it further when I get a new case and will use my old case for the server.

Current idea of the hard drive set-up would be
>Small SSD running the OS
>8-10tb of storage
>Another 8-10tb as a back-up of the storage

rack or gtfo

if power cost is your concern you can build fairly beefy boxen on 450W.

Lian Li PC-A75 For "most drives in a single case" but that's $170

Otherwise you'll have to settle with a NZXT Source 210. 8 bays for $50 but you can cram a bunch more on the bottom free-form.

>systemd
No.

if power cost is a concern then you're too fucking poor own a server and be in this thread

About to buy a bunch of new 3TB greens for my home server from a guy on craigslist

Arch. Wish I had faster internet so I could seed 24/7 but I might get a wan card with a boosted antenne so I can crack my neighborhood's shitty wifi and use their internet

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Fuck off you're not helping this thread at all.

Being power efficient is necessary in some areas. Power where I live is 38¢ a kWh. It's cheaper than colo but still a nice dent in monthly costs especially for something running 24/7.

>does APC have anything in the price range of cyberpower? Last I looked 1500W backups were 400+.

Yeah, APC has products for the whole spectrum, $50-15,000

Here is mine.
Runs torrents (~3TB so far), NAS, web server for personal and friend use and a few VMs, with some bots.

Im honestly ashamed of the external disk, but it was so much cheaper than internal drives(they usually are, but this deal was nuts), and I don't want to void the warranty on it yet but putting it inside.

I just wish there was better windows torrent clients (using deluge atm). Is a linux VM for torrents viable?

On a side not i'd recomend crashplan (im not a shill I swear), slow af to back up, but provides unlimited backup space for $5/mo.

I have a 450 watt setup and realistically your server will only actually consume as much power as it draws from its hardware. 450w is just the maximum capacity.
I got a cheap 450 evga bronze for 15$ the other week.

Check out places like this for deals. I built my server in only 2 months with 190$ and that's mostly because I got a somewhat "high spec" server with ddr4 and kabylake. Also get "powertop" so you can optimize your servers power consumption.
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This is running in a antec 900 I modded a lot.

You can rip out the drive in your external and plug it in like any other 2.5 drive if its sata.
Also maybe just run cygwin with rtorrent(havent tried but it'll save you the dual-boot)

>wd external
Stop lying you piece of shit it's aroung 269€

How are you organizing your files across your drives?
What are your mount points?
Do you dedicate entire drives to movies and games and music?

>6tb WD My Book
indeed a 3.5 inches hdd in external case. 194usd
same store WD Red 6TB NAS - 5400 RPM 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD60EFRX 214usd

are they just abusing the marketing of "Nas-ready", when in fact a nas and external hdd are just slower shits then a regular hdd for main usage?

or is the external case embeded with spying firmware, since its usb device working at os level... or peraps it just includes a refurbished hdd or a shittier batch or subspecs (beyond cache, rpm)

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what case is that?

>Living in a third world hellhole.
You have to buy them at freedom stores to get the low price.

OwO

>I'm too much of a retard to know how color can help high maintenance networks

Oy vey
Your price includes a generous tariff so that unelected EU bureaucrats can have private luxury shopping malls and other lavish amenities.

My server is an old pentium 4 with 1GB ram, debian 8.8 with apache2 + ssl + davfs + basic auth. All my media is spanned across an LVM array on old hard drives. 4TB

It runs like a fucking beast. Lightning fast.

deluged + deluge-web for torrents

All re-purposed parts. If I lose my data, I'll live. It's porn, TV + Movies.

Confirmed weeb doesn't know what raid is.

Non important data. Don't care if I lose everything. On the flip side, if a single drive fails I'd rather just lose that data than the whole pool.

RAID is for idiots who don't know what they're doing, or autists who think there data needs 24/7 uptime for whatever reason.

Anyone running RAID5 on a home media server is a moron.

Make regular full image backups of all of your drives, if a drive fails, pop it out and pop it's backup in it's place, your down time in total was ~5 minutes and you didn't lose any data if you backup regularly. Now you can order a new drive on amazon and when it shows up backup the current drive to the new drive and your new drive is your new backup. Next time the drive dies, repeat the process.


RAID is only important for servers that need to be up 24/7 and need access to mission critical data at ALL times. I can't think of a single reason a home user would NEED to use RAID.

>poorfag

sucks to be poor

I have an old as fuck Dell Optiplex 745 running FreeNAS as my home storage NAS. It's pretty neat.

this, i paid a bit over 30€ for 32GB of DDR2 ECC FB-DIMM from chinks, seems to be legit samsung sticks and work very well, great deal for a poorfag like me running old powerhungry garbage while not paying for the power

Old APC Netshelter 42u.

Pfsense on little Amazon Qotom box.

Dell R230 ESXi host, running Mail-in-a-Box, ubuntu webserver, Blue Iris CCTV in win10ltsb, and a den on LTSB vm for torrents.

Dell R710 running Freenas. 3x WD reds 3tb in raidz-1. Emby media server in a jail.

Unmanaged POE switch from Buffalo does whole network plus cameras.

Mac mini in pic is how it all started. Turned out that macOS server is absolute shit. Mini has since been moved to the living room as a set top box.

>Now you can order a new drive on amazon and when it shows up backup the current drive to the new drive and your new drive is your new backup. Next time the drive dies, repeat the process.

>Not having two replacement drives on hand at all times
>One to keep as a backup, one as a backup for your backup so you'll always have a backup

I just chucked my R230 in the bin, got me a R710.

YEET

Part 2: the "server room"

Take it out of the bin and send it to me,user. Love that little r230.

nas4free
core 2 duo
1gib ddr2 ram
x3 physical zmirror'd zpool
lz4 compression and automated snapshot'd into a archival directory which is further compressed

open to questions

Like I said, idiots or autists.

New user to linux and other distro's , had a old laptop lying in home.
popped it up and installed Ubuntu on it, how do I host a server for my purely time pass projects, I'm ready to buy a general domain for my projects but not a hosting plan.
Help me OP

hi poorfag

Fuck Ubuntu. Look into FreeBSD.

I'm a poor fag for not being a retard?

Sorry its a HOME server, you're not fucking amazon, you're not a god damn fortune 500 company losing $10000 every second of offline time.


If you HONESTLY think you have any real use for what you're doing, I'd love to hear your excuse, I could use a good laugh.

no RAID5

>poorfag

youre on the wrong forum buddy

we are all enthusiests here

also there is plenty of reasons to utilize raid for a home user

finacial documents, medical records and also family media

when you are working with sensitive data its better to just have a spare drive that is automated to hot-swap in the event of a failure instead of messing around in a rush during a possibly crucial moment

if you work in accounting/architecture/programming its important to know you have bulletproof local storage

i dont expect you to relate to any of this though since you probably dont have a family of your own or a job

You mean a web server to host a website? Apache can do that. It in combination with other common web servers for the various technologies used in modern web design is called a LAMP stack and is heavily supported on just about every Linux distribution.
Google for "How to configure LAMP ubuntu".
Keep in mind the arch wiki is one of the best sources of information for Linux users even if you don't use arch.

My suggestion is Freenas with Emby/Plex installed as a plugin. Very easy and can be done cheap on an old R510 or R710 from ebay with an H200 controller.

Where do you guys even work to get the kind of income for shit like this

>t. pretending he's got important information.


Fucking retard, if you ACTUALLY did any of that you'd know an offsite backup is FAR more important than having something in duplicate or triplicate ON SITE.

WEW, you have 4 backups, but the fire caused from your shitty home server setup melted them all, so much for all those backups and that RAID5.

Agreed. Onsite backups are only for that "Oh shit, I just deleted my vim config" moment.

I sell my body to the night

>having medical/finacial records in the cloud

no one ever said you cant have off storage backup faggot

nice trying to move the goalpost though

raid isnt a backup its to prevent drive failure

youre a scrub though that doesnt know the difference

hi here's my setup
poweredge R710 file server running openbsd connected to my openbsd workstation through 10gb nic, HP Proliant DL380 is soon to be running pfsense or openbsd as a filewall and router for my home network, Cisco 2950 is soon to be scrapped for a wifi router flashed with pfsense

or "Oh shit, I bought HDDs in bulk and 5 of them just died at the same time"

>in the cloud
holy shit, you're actually retarded


No fucking moron, you get a safety deposit box at your local bank and store your long term backups in there.

>large rack blocking small rack
>laptop with ups
>stupid shit ass table with no room for legs
>secondary monitor bigger than main one
>no extra keyboard for sys admin duties
>no curtains