You have a nice, neutral, transparent setup, user.
Austin Moore
>$300 or less, preferably less, would go an extra $50 for something worth it >USA >Asus Xonar Essence STX >Full sized, over the ear only >Closed >Max comfy or bust, I wear these things nearly all day >Warm to neutral
Connor Hernandez
That was the intent of the setup. Wouldn't want my setup to mess with umi's voice.
Nathan Rivera
>closed Are you 300% sure? Just as an extra check, what are the constraints that force you to compromise and go closed?
Hunter Cook
I'm aware of the drawbacks but I like (and a good bit of time need) the extra isolation due to noise in the house and to not disturb others. Were my living situation different I'd be open all the way.
Joshua Mitchell
>Budget £150-400 (Although I prefer to go for relative value for money) >Location Britbong-land >Source Directly into onboard audio on my PC, would potentially be interested in a DAC/AMP but ideally would like something that can still work decently without one >Type of headphone Over-ear, open (purely for home use) >Open or closed Open >Comfort level Comfortable enough to wear all day >Sound signature Somewhat neutral as I listen to all genres (electronic, rock, metal, rap, classical crossover, etc), although I want something that's kinda fun-ish, not completely cold analytical >Past headphones ATH-M50S, been using them for about 6 years or so, and I plan on using these at work (as they're closed), but want something a bit better for home use.
Recently I've been looking at Hifiman's HE400i and HE400s, as I'm quite intrigued in getting planar magnetics for my next headphone. I know Sup Forums seems to be a 2 horse race between Sennheiser and Beyer shills, so this might be the wrong place to ask; but how do these headphones rate against the best at this price point? Anyone tried them and have any (unbiased) feedback about them?
Henry Hernandez
You're pretty much describing HD600 there.
Aiden Butler
The big issue with Hifiman seems to be build quality.
Daniel Turner
For reference I'm using a pair of Shure SE-215 IEMs right now, the amount of isolation is almost perfect, though maybe a little too heavy with Comply foam inserts. I'm just sick of sticking shit -in- my ears and want to go back to full-sized cans.
Grayson Sullivan
You seem to want something on the higher end of closed. I unfortunately don't know any; It's not helpful that past a certain price point, most headphones are open.
Landon Diaz
>Budget around 200€ but i am flexible >Location Austria >Source For my laptop and phone mainly. >Type of headphone full-sized over ear >Open or closed closed >Comfort level high, i listen to a ton of music for long periods of time >Sound signature neutral >Past headphones 70€ marshall IEMs thanks in advance anons
Jaxson White
DT250 80 ohm
Samuel Lee
400i is very good and the bass sounds remarkably clean. If you don't find your m50s too sharp you should find the 400i to be fine as well. Note that bass by default is very neutral and you'll have to EQ it up if you want a more "fun" sound. I'd suggest getting them from Amazon so you don't have to worry about the QC. If you get a dud you can get it replaced immediately.
Chase Martin
Also DT250 80 ohm. These headphones are the DT770's terribly unappreciated, vastly superior cousin. Much more reasonable treble output while still very comfortable.
Jack Powell
massdrop is selling more of the HD 6XX right now if anyone is interested
Parker Gomez
>ETA: Christmas 2017
Benjamin Perez
They need a different color way. Fuck that disgusting cheap looking dark blue plastic.
>DT 990 Pro is rated better in all usage categories than the HD 600
>b-b-but rtings is """inaccurate"""
Mason Scott
I fully acknowledge that the majority of Beyer's line has way too much treble but the DT250 is an exception to this.
Austin Jones
"exception"
Juan Allen
>rtings
Adrian Jackson
It has a modest bass boost and some modest treble peaking, which combine to give it an overall well-balanced sound. The treble isn't ear-rapey like DT770/880/990/1990. Please stop shitposting. Please stop shitposting. I don't take sides; both sides in this shit-flinging war need to knock it off.
Chase Myers
>majority of Beyer's line has way too much treble For you, maybe. Majority of Beyer's line has the right amount of treble if you're looking into bright headphones that aren't afraid of giving the music a bit more spark.
Matthew Cox
>Yes yes goy, only trust reviews from unbiased an impartial websites like InnerFidelity
Nathaniel Sanders
InnerFidelity's opinion matches the general opinion of the internet. It's not bias, it's truth.
Cooper Harris
It's WTF how they manage to have the highest overall level peak always in the treble area.
Samuel Brooks
Satania a cute. A cute!!
Brandon Evans
>not posting the original poll >Sennshills have to go this far to try and show off
Sad! Many such cases also seen on /r/headphones and Head-Fi!
Colton Ross
Guys I'm having trouble deciding between a Sennheiser HD 598 SR and an Audio Technica ATH-AD700X. From what I've read they're both pretty good (assuming the AD700X is the same as the AD700 except the color), and I'm having trouble deciding. Does anyone have any feedback on the AD700X? Which one should I get if both are around the same price?
Yeah I figured there wouldn't be a whole lot since after about $100-$150 you get into "audiophile" stuff. Thanks, though.
I'll give them a look, thanks, user.
Elijah Bailey
>AD700X Absolutely zero bass.
Henry Smith
>hifiman >no grados
shit poll
Adrian Johnson
>Absolutely zero bass.
At least it's preparing user for a future """upgrade""" to the no bass HD 600
Jaxson Lopez
Hola.
Jordan Ramirez
Further down the results.
Jaxon Davis
Yesterday's thread was so much better without the autistic anti-Sennheiser troll shitting all over it like this.
Landon Perez
Why not rename this thread Sennhesier General if all you do is to shit all over anything that isn't the HD 600?
Daniel Thomas
>$1k DT 880 treble ear rape cannons
Austin Flores
HD598 SR have a slightly warm sound and ATH-AD700X have a slightly cold sound. You may find the AD700X to be lacking in bass and you may find the HD598 SR to have a bit too much midbass. It's up to you whether you want to err on the side of too much midbass or not enough bass in general; whether you'd prefer a warm or cold sound. They're apples and oranges. This board is honestly the worst place on the internet to ask for advice involving Sennheiser in any way because of our resident shitposter.
Hudson Hill
From what I've read the bass is pretty weak but accurate. Since I'm not a fan of boom-boom I thought it wasn't a problem (on the contrary even). Is the bass so weak that it is a major problem?
Henry Mitchell
>This board is honestly the worst place on the internet to ask for advice involving Sennheiser in any way because of our resident shitposter.
Gabriel Davis
Wow, it's like I'm in /hpg/ 4 years ago.
Xavier Gonzalez
You can't deny that the HD 800 has the same shitty treble problems as the DT 880
Bentley Roberts
You're not funny.
Levi Wright
>Sup Forums is serious business!
Joshua Harris
>From what I've read the bass is pretty weak but accurate. It has a substantial bass rolloff starting at 200 Hz according to this measurement. ~-6 dB at 40 Hz isn't accurate, it's bass-light. Again, it's up to you whether to err on the side of not enough bass or too much midbass. I wouldn't describe the HD598 SR as "boom boom" either; far from it. It has a small midbass boost intended to keep the bass and sub-bass from falling off a cliff like it does on most of Audio Technica's open headphones. There's an inherent compromise with open dynamics: either you boost the midbass or you accept sub-par lower bass performance.
Benjamin Barnes
Thanks
Adrian Flores
This. They both have way, way too much treble.
Robert Lewis
If anyone is interested in finding out what the HD 800 or DT 880 sounds like, just use these eq settings.
Ian Richardson
For comparison, HD598 shows a small 2.5 dB midbass boost here, and a 2.5 dB difference between 40 Hz and 200 Hz response, demonstrating much better low bass extension than the AD700X. It's up to you whether 2.5 dB of midbass is too much, "boom boom," etc. I also must note that the 8-10 kHz response on appears problematic to me. I think a headphone has major problems when any part of its response is louder than the ~3 kHz ear canal resonance which is supposed to be there on the raw measurement. You may find that treble peak to be harsh and grating on the ears. You may also find the HD598 SR to have not enough treble. I'm not trying to steer you in either direction; just giving you what I perceive as the truth. It's your call, based on your own subjective preferences.
Jaxon Lopez
Lol wtf so Sennheiser has no soundstage?
Robert King
What's funny is that the HD600's supporters here routinely bash the hell out of the HD800 yet the Snapheiser troll calls them Sennshills, which is absurd.
Isaac Perez
Also, is the impedance of the HD 598 SR fine for a motherboard audio chip without an amp? My current headphones are around 32 ohm, which is roughly the same as the AD700X, but it seems the HD 598 SR is around 60 ohm with a spike above 250 ohm around 100 Hz.
Ian Watson
HD600/HD650 have narrow soundstage but that isn't necessarily a bad thing and is a matter of preference. Some people enjoy exaggeratedly wide AKG-style soundstage and some people hate it. Also, contrary to popular belief, wide soundstages do not create greater positional accuracy in video games, with or without virtual surround. Virtual surround works just fine on zero-soundstage IEMs. Soundstage is entirely a matter of personal preference and, for those of you who haven't heard headphones with both narrow and wide soundstages, I'd urge you to make no assumptions as to which you'd prefer when making buying decisions, and I'd urge you to audition headphones with wide and narrow soundstages before making buying decisions as well.
Ryder Ortiz
HD598 SR can be driven just fine with onboard sound. Impedance isn't the only factor in determining how difficult a headphone is to drive; sensitivity is also a factor.
>$199 >shipping to us: free >shipping to my 3rd world country >$15
Is this real life? This can't be true right?
Christopher Morgan
Alright thanks for the feedback. Good day to you user.
Camden Lee
meep
Alexander Turner
I have no problems with mine because a small notch filter takes care of the problem. These days I no longer use any equalization because the SDR mod is more than enough.
Nathaniel Richardson
Third for HD600 have no headstage.
Benjamin Murphy
Anyone that can reccomend a
Jaxon Hernandez
>I am selling my Sennheiser HD600 and want to grab a dac/amp for my PC. Have you tried your HD600 with a proper dac/amp? Your question suggests not. Anyway, with your budget, look into Fulla2 or DAC-X6.
Hunter Richardson
>desk mics
Landon Edwards
I used the HD600s with a Fulla
Gabriel Turner
The fulla2 kinda falls short at the higher end of the volume knob. I'd expect fulla1 to be insufficient. I suggest trying them with your new dac/amp before making rash decisions.
Hudson Cook
I'd rather just sell it to someone that will run it right and use that money to better my setup.
Xavier Lopez
Prioritizing source over transducers is always a mistake.
Jace Price
Listen to: And, honestly, if you're that scrapped for money, you should focus on saving some for a rainy day, not buying new gadgets.
Ryan Kelly
>I want to sell my headphones that need an amp and buy an amp for my other headphones that don't need an amp Logic fail. You should really rethink this.
Robert Wright
If you're pushing your HD600 to that sort of volume level either you've got some retarded EQ preset or you're blowing out your ears. Seriously, even on quiet recordings 75% is more than enough.
Luke Parker
In the years I've been on /hpg/ I've come to the conclusion that Sup Forumsentlemen have widely varying opinions on what is loud enough.
William Fisher
The universal loud enough is the threshold for hearing damage. Go any louder and you're just being a retard.
Noah Mitchell
There's safe limits for listening duration at levels beyond the threshold for hearing damage. I personally enjoy 90+ dB listening for less than an hour at a time. Some people also simply don't give a fuck at all, and while this may be ill-advised, they still have a right to their preference.
Chase Edwards
What are the comfiest headphones?
Lincoln Nelson
beyerdynamics
Lucas Cruz
HD800, MDR-MA900
David Collins
As a moral human being, I cannot endorse or recommend self destructive practices. 90db is safe for around an hour or so. I'd say that 90db should be the maximum volume anyone should care about, ignoring stuff like quieter recordings.
Jose Jones
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Colton Mitchell
>Seriously, even on quiet recordings 75% is more than enough. I do agree. And I use my HD600 with the magni2 at low gain, and seldom go past 10 o'clock. Except, on some videogames, on most anime, etc. I actually have to go past 12 o'clock, because of really low mastering volume.
Camden Sullivan
Most people here wear headphones for hours on end.
Anthony Evans
What do you fags think of the Meze 99 Classics? They seem really well constructed with good sound, and I have a massive hardon for wood. If I want wood in the construction are there better choices?
Hudson Hill
HD800 is pretty much unbeatable in the comfort department. They don't even heat up in the summer months with prolonged use.
Adrian Rogers
what if i listen to 115db for 31 seconds? do i go deaf?
Leo Russell
>Budget about 100€ >Location Germany >Source directly to the PC or mobile >Type of headphone over ear >Open or closed closed >Comfort level very high. I basically use headphones 24/7 >Sound signature neutral, but prefer bass >Past headphones Superlux HD681 (have these since 2013 or longer)
I am searching for some wireless headphones. I have the Audition aptX in mind but I'm not sure.
Ayden Howard
Guys should i upgrade my dt770 for HD 598? would i feel the difference?
Connor Nguyen
About the same effect as listening to DT990 at normal levels.
Tyler Lopez
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Samuel Morris
>would i feel the difference? They're polar opposites. HD598 is a great compliment to DT770 since it's so different.
Lucas Long
Well i'm new to having good headphones i bought the DT770 a year ago and been happily using them with every piece of tech i get, with the amazon deals today, The HD 598 looks amazing, what sort of differences would i expect to hear between them?
Tyler Sullivan
Are there any GOOD headphones that don't look like autistic faggot shit and can actually be worn outside (also they'd have to be able to sit comfortably on the neck or not take too much space in bag)
Liam Flores
The HD598 have much more balanced sound. The DT770 exaggerates bass and treble response at the expense of the midrange; HD598 exaggerates neither the bass nor the treble. You'll also probably notice the HD598 being less resonant in the bass since they're open instead of closed.