Safe Device

Hi. I'm looking for selling a high value software but if I do it like usually it would spread in the market, so I can sell only one time.
The idea I had is making a closed device like a laptop where the software works, without network connection, without being able of putting it out of the laptop, if you remove the HD it deletes. Is that possible?

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eh, if you cant figure out the answer by yourself, i doubt youd have anything valuable anyway

Send me the source code and I'll fix it so that nobody can copy it.

I don't know how to do it, I've the idea and a need, what's the problem with that? I'm looking for help.

Nope

go read a book or two before asking stupid questions.
you wasted a yhread for this when theres /sqt/

What's the problem? I'm just asking for help. I don't know how to do it and I'm looking for someone that can do it

If you need help with this, you don't actually have anything valuable to sell.

That's a pretty basic logic you know? Why can't I have something valuable to sell without knowing a lot about hardware? I haven't made the software, someone did it for me and now I'm looking for selling it.

>I haven't made the software, someone did it for me and now I'm looking for selling it.
Go home Ivan, you're drunk.

I told you that I can do it. Why don't you send me the source code?

I'm not that stupid.

I don't understand why are you answering that, I'm looking for help, don't waste your time.

Send source code to me. I help.

[email protected]

Nope. Not that stupid.

I think you might be.

you're wasting your own time asking a dumb question on Sup Forums instead of reading up on it.
google is your friend. we arent.

That's a good answer. Thanks for that. Problem is I need someone that knows about it and can make it, if I don't know about it I'm not sure I can google it.

Just send the sourcecode to [email protected]

Me friend to you. Help very much. Send source code.

[email protected]

also i forgot to mention it again but theres /sqt/ for this.
if you're new to this site, as you appear to be, /sqt/ is a thread here on the Sup Forums board for simple/stupid questions.
simply go on catalog and search for it.

Send code. Help.

[email protected]

That sounds trustworthy, I'll try

Thanks.

Hey, fuck you, friend.

shut the fuck up you fucking faggot

No, fuck you, buddy.

DRM wont protect your code dipshit

Patents and copyright will.

Piracy is only a problem in consumer space

No system is unhackable, period.
If you really, really, really want to do this, you'll need a signed boot chain (think SecureBoot) into a chainloader that decrypts the OS including your code (or at least your code, but filesystems past FAT suck to implement properly in a restricted environment like a bootloader). The encryption key is hardcoded in a hardware AES/ChaCha20 engine and you hire a hardware specialist to make sure it's written in such a way that it's a fucking pain to get out, i.e., a mere electron microscope won't suffice.
If it's *really* high value, you'll probably still get someone exploiting your code to get in and dump itself onto literally fucking anything.

>if you remove the HD it deletes
You could try putting a signed blob into some device-unique, queryable hardware register that causes the software to delete itself on launch unless that blob can be (1) read, and (2) verified. Obviously, if someone buys two of your devices, you're fucked anyway because then they'll be on to your tricks, so you should bury as many of those as is reasonably feasible in as many places as possible with varying methods of obfuscation.

tl;dr: You need a custom hardware, a fuckton of it

Oh also if you're interested in this kinda stuff, I'd recommend you join some console hacking scenes and lurk for a year or more until you understand why the systems have failed and what key parts are important to get right.

Finally, a good answer. Where can I contact you for more info?
It's a 7.5k usd or 10k usd value software for big companies. We sold it one time to Telecom, so that's the target.

I don't understand everything you said because I speak spanish and I don't have that level of knowledge but anyway, I think I follow you. I need something custom made so it can be used only there, instead of giving the software to a PC where it can be hacked, I want to give the software in a hardware that's locked up, nothing gets out and if you try to do it, then it deletes.

>Where can I contact you for more info?
[email protected]

>10k USD software
>can't afford to hire security specialists and instead asks on fucking Sup Forums
I hope you go bankrupt

What's the problem? I'm here looking for help so I know what to do. Anyway, thanks for the help

No comrade, I help. Trust me.

The problem is that you're trying to make money without spending money.

There's one of two cases:
- Your software would provide the same value on the cloud. Then get it on the cloud!
- You have Enterprise clients that want on-premises software. Make a contract with them. Legal protection is way better than whatever DRM you will come up with.

That's it. There's no reason to come up with homemade crap, and nothing is unhackable anyway. If it's in the RAM (it will be if it works) then it can be reverse engineered.

Use the cloud or contracts like any sane company would. Why reinvent the wheel? Literally everyone does it.

No, I'm looking for hiring someone to do the job, but first I need to know what I want and solve initial problems, don't you think so?

Good idea.

Finally someone in this thread with an ounce of sense.

I can do job. 100 rubles. Email me source code. Job done today.

[email protected]

I do job, 90 rubles.

[email protected]

What are you looking for is called
SaaS.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_as_a_service

If you have a thing people are willing to pay for, simply edit it so it works only with internet connection and sell it on monthly payment as web app.