If you want help: >Assemble your parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (kind of outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >G4560/G4600 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon) >R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor. The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any
>mid-range >Pentium and a 3 GB 1060 That entire build is poverty tier. into the trash it goes.
Jeremiah Howard
Cryptocuck genocide when
Luke Brown
Hitler had the right idea
Gavin Morris
They make me so mad. I was about to nab a 580 when those fuckers took them all. I can't wait until something similar to ASIC is made for ethereum, if it's possible now or later.
Luis Smith
How do you guys get W10? You obviously need it for games but you don't include it in your partpickers
Easton Fisher
here
I'm going to try Fedora Linux instead of Mint. A few minutes of Google indicates that Fedora might play nicer on AM4 than Mint.
Josiah Jenkins
Not viable for ETH but mining will become impossible once it shifts to proof-of-stake anyway.
Zachary Smith
Grey market keys from sites like Kinguin myself or you can just use it without activating it. W10 is basically shareware
Dylan Baker
What 2K monitor do you anons recommend for 200 US dollars?
Benjamin Campbell
you can get it free and just ignore the activation message or buy a key for like 3$
Julian Cook
...
Daniel Hughes
>windows enterprise >autokms what's the problem
Justin Nguyen
>7700K into the trash it goes
Bentley Moore
I WAS EXPECTNG TO BE SPENDING SUB 500 THIS IS NOT EVEN ALL THE PARTS REEEEEEEEEE
Nicholas Morales
Literally any vista/7/8 key will activate 10. I have a ton of keys from old PCs I've found/fixed/family owned lets not forget that stores/library/offices yadda have their keys left out in the open on the pc still. Specially my job we have at least 200 computers in the back chilling with constant computers being sent out for drmo I usually take pictures of the key then.
Wyatt Williams
spending €130 on N O T H I N G
Christopher Lopez
>paying for doody >being a europoor
Logan Brooks
>7700K
Delete this
Jackson Anderson
Is it possible to view the Windows key on 7 using (control panel > system) where you usually view all the system info? Theres usually the windows key under the version when its genuine, atleast i believe its the windows key, is this correct?
Nicholas Brown
no you need to download an app to view the windows key being used on a system. just google it, isn't hard to find.
Camden Parker
What's up with LED strips, fans and 4pin cables. Are all made equal? I was given a pack of LED strips and some of those Thermaltake RGB fans and want to control it all with one solution behind the motherboard (build for my daughter). Will it all just work.dll if I plug it into a controller breakout thing?
Owen Torres
New thread bump
Carter Baker
Yes
Angel Thompson
1080p @ 60 requires at least a 1060. 1050ti will require him to drop a few settings.
Ethan Walker
If you're gonna spend all this money, don't get that garbage headset. Grab a SHP9500 or CB-1 and something like a v moda boom pro.
Adam Brooks
Need an hdd, should I get one of the HGST/Hitachi refurbished drives?
Brandon Price
Sup Forumsuys, any improvement as a web developer coming from i5 3450 to ryzen 1600?
I use 3 1080p monitors currently. Can 1600 handle firefox with multiple tabs without stuttering?
Jaxon Edwards
where are the AMD ITX boards
Aaron Roberts
Is it safe to buy win10 keys from kinguin or g2a? is it possible they could be fakes or fuck with your system?
Ayden Evans
If they are fake, charge back or contact CS and demand another key. Don't buy the protection like a fool. Also there is no way a key can fuck with your system.
Brandon Evans
As an australian the cheapest 2k monitor I found is the viewsonic vx3209 which is $400 aud at current exchange rate 284 usd, 2k is not a promising market all the manufacturers fell for the 4k meme.
Charles Young
Goddamn.. Well I guess I can always try next year
Luke Mitchell
It's basically an auction site so just buy from a vendor with a good rep. I haven't had any issues and I've gotten Windows and Steam keys
Thomas Nguyen
Alright, Thanks lads
Ayden Brooks
just pirate windows like a normal human being
Camden Baker
You are just better off not activating W10 if you are that cheap. It is not like you stop getting updates.
>muh itx stop being autistic and get a micro atx like a normal person
Alexander Reed
asrock b350 something
Lucas Morgan
MSI B350 Tomahawk
Andrew Hill
>2k >200 bucks Get a job.
Samuel Taylor
>Seagate >Gaming Headset
Mason Collins
1060 6GB version.
Michael Price
That depends more of your gpu, ryzen doesn't have an igpu so you would need to buy a discrete gpu if you get a ryzen cpu.
Christopher Cruz
I have already a GTX 1060, I still experience hangups on firefox especially once loading multiple sites with lots of javascript running. It takes at least 2 days before firefox won't respond anymore.
Goals: -144fps @ 1080p -60fps @ 1440p -VR games -Game development
Daniel Peterson
It looks like is cpu related, go for the ryzen.
Alexander Long
With the i7-7700k overclocked to 4.5Ghz+GTX 1080ti you can do 1440p@144hz without a problem.
Eli Hernandez
that's what I'm hoping, glad to hear it. I've been told ryzen might be better for vr dev, but since i'm not making exactly triple-A stuff should I be too concerned?
Nolan Bennett
Go for the i7 is you want high frame-rates, you may even win the silicon lottery with a 5Ghz die.
>1800x Don't pay attention to this retard. Go for the i7 if all you do is gaming or the 1700 for better performance is multi-thread applications.
Jacob Sanchez
my current i5-3570k is OCd to 4.5 so maybe I'll win twice
Juan Morgan
>game development >vr games >you suggest intel Go away.
Tyler Phillips
*In multi-thread
Jose James
Dear Jesus, I need help.
I bought a 1060, popped it into my computer. Nothing being output. I put my old 5850 back in, runs like a charm. Did this 3 times now, thinking maybe I didn't seat it right, etc.
Worst part of all this: no USB to USB cord on hand, which is the only way I can see to output any signal directly from my motherboard. Honestly, I thought GPUs were supposed to be plug and play as far as getting any output at all goes.
The fuck am I doing wrong?
James Jenkins
You suggested something even more retarded like the 1800x
Thomas Fisher
Upgrade your CPU.
You might have some compatibility issues.
Maybe it's your MOBO.
Just upgrade everything.
Nathaniel Thompson
The 1800x can multi-thread like a badass.
And it's cheaper than the i7-7700K.
Processing speed that is slightly slower doesn't fucking matter.
Brody Miller
Did you try with other PCI ports and different outputs (HDMI, DVI,DP).
Aaron Long
Well I also do development, but the most important thing to me is gaming performance. I can gamedev and webdev with an i7 just fine I'm going to go ahead and assume. VE dev, it might be better to have a ryzen slightly, but even then I'm not sure how much better it is because I don't know anything about ryzen, I haven't built a PC or kept up with hardware in quite a while.
Ayden Wright
I mean, it's a 16x PCIe slot. Why wouldn't it be compatible? That said, it's an old ass board, LGA 1156.
But yeah, that's a luxury I don't really have just yet.
Jose Lopez
>1800x=420$ >7700k=310$ Is not cheaper memeboy.
Ayden Richardson
The price listing was lower on PCPartPicker.
Leave.
Carter Rodriguez
If gaming is more important to you go for the i7.
Jordan Butler
Tried HDMI and VGA, no DP cord on hand.
Just the 16x slot. That said, it's running and re-detected my 5850 even after I uninstalled the drivers in preparation for the 1060.
thanks buddy. Everything else look good? The compatibility notes say that 2 of the m.2 slots share bandwith with sata ports so.. I've never had an SSD before but I'm going to assume that's not a big deal?
Jayden Baker
Because they price list it at $140 and on BestBuy.com
Juan Green
You leave. >Amazon price: See >Newegg price: i7-7700k=310$ 1800x=430$
Aaron Roberts
>61367127 Nigga I love you, you don't have to lie.
Connor Reed
am I not retarded I'm new at this add $400 for the 1070, getting it from best buy
Ian Stewart
Something about that list hucks me off, but I can't put my fingy on it.
Meh phalange.
Luis Wright
Make sure your m.2 drive and ram is in the compatibility list of your motherboard. The list can be found in the site of the brand of your motherboard, in your case MSI.
Nathan Flores
Sure thing faggot.
Wyatt Peterson
Maybe get faster ram because ryzen and infinity fabric
Alexander King
how fast is good?
Lincoln Garcia
Well it really depends on can the mobo run it but i was planning on 3000 or 3200 ram. I suggest you google it for futher info
Jackson Price
Maybe people around here like SanDisk. I haven't had much luck with them.
Faster RAM. Buy one stick of 8 @ 3000 or 3200 if you're already topping out your budget. Not running dual channel for a few weeks/months isn't going to kill you.
I fucked with a Ryzen build on a cheap MSI B350, so I can't speak for that one in particular, but their BIOS is hot garbage.
Brandon Reed
upgrade your fucking mobo, the same shit happened to me with the rx 460. Don´t be dense.
Lucas Garcia
Part of it is just Firefox being shitty wrt to it's render engine or javascript interpreter. I get stuttering with it even on my 12-core Xeon workstation with a few tabs. Chrome works fine.
William Jackson
I want to change my shitty stock CPU fan. Should I get something cheaper like Pure Rock Slim, or is it worth it to pay a little more? The priority is to make my pc silent.
Sebastian Richardson
Go for an EVO
Henry Hill
7700K makes zero difference at 1440p due to the GPU constraint even with a 1080 Ti. It has slightly higher averages at 1080p but with lower 0.1% minimums so more stuttering than a Ryzen 5/7 (or 6+ core Intel CPU). Overall Ryzen is smoother and you can perform other tasks without causing as much degradation of performance, which is particularly useful if you're developing and running a profiler or debugging tool.
Aiden Torres
Do not listen to the Intel shill, the i7 has marginal benefit in fps but ONLY at 1920x1080 and for that marginal increase in average FPS you sacrifice over 50-70% multithreaded performance. As a game developer that is fucking mental because you're always running other tools alongside a game.
Bentley Jackson
Ok, help a guy out then, gimme the skinny on that there ryzen.
Blake Thomas
What do you want to know exactly? My suggestion is going with a 1700X with RAM that can achieve 3200 Mhz. OC it as far as you're comfortable (probably 4Ghz +/- 100Mhz) and you're set. Slap a decent air cooler on there to keep thermals and noise in check.
Jackson Cooper
>t.ayymd poorfag Go for the i7.
Zachary Jenkins
I found a 1080 for 500 bucks, which seems like a decent price regardless of the current price inflation. Normally I'd go for the __70, but they're floating around the same price.
I know I just missed a newegg sale, but does anyone know of any other sales in the horizon? GPU died so I don't want to wait around for months for the price to drop back down.
John Mitchell
How "Marginal" are we talking? And is it seriously a 50-70% increase in multithreaded performance? That's shockingly high if so. And is 1700X the best one to get? Budget isn't too much of an issue so I want the best I can get.
Hitting 144fps @ 1080p is a pretty big must, so if that's possible with a ryzen then I'm happy with that
Kevin Watson
The bigger the heatsink is the more heat it'll be able to dissipate. Same works for fans, bigger fans move more air than smaller. So a bigger heatsink and a bigger fan is better at cooling your processor, meaning that you'll be able to slow the fan down and thus make the fan quieter.
With that said there's not really much of a difference if you're not overclocking as most aftermarket fans are rated for much higher TDPs. So a 20-30 dollar cooler should be quiet enough for you.
Samuel Gonzalez
WAIT™ FOR VEGA®
Cooper Scott
Fuck off Raja
Luis Thompson
>And is it seriously a 50-70% increase in multithreaded performance? That's shockingly high if so. It's not that high but the difference certainly is big regardless