>2560 x 1600 IPS display
>Kaby-lake CPU
>+8GB RAM
>NVMe SSD (the fastest on any laptop)
>Future proof ready (with 4 USB-C ports)
>God Tier keyboard and trackpad
>Competitively priced
>Well suported stable UNIX out of the box
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
>Sup Forums hates it.
Is it because you are a poorfag? This is the best laptop that can exist.
you're on Sup Forums filled with NEETs what can you honestly expect? they barely had enough to afford their $200 thrift store dinosaur laptop as it is!
>$2800
lol
I hate it because I hate flaming faggots such as yourself, OP.
Windows > Linux > Unix
>giving money to apple voluntarily
Yet the people that buy it only use it to check their f*cebook and tw*tter
Mmhm, jealousy I think!
Love mine!
Only thing I'd contest is "future proof", as it kinda sucks that everything is soldered. But it is what it is. Not being Windows or Linux (and working so well with portable devices that are not Android) is a massive massive bonus that far outweighs its non upgradeable nature.
*throttles to 800Mhz*
>God Tier keyboard
I like the MacBook Pro but calling the keyboard anything but awful is delusion.
The complete lack of travel makes it feel like you're typing on a flat piece of paper.
>being outperformed by $500 usd laptops
Joke's on you.
Haven't seen mine do that when monitoring with Intel Power Gadget. I guess it might throttle if you absolutely hammer the CPU and GPU at the same time for a prolonged period for benchmarks, but it's not something that happens in real world use.
Not OP but I agree that the keyboard is great. At least the 2017 version (it possibly got tweaked?)
I actually find it really comfy to type on, have no trouble with textwalls at all. It is, however, a bit noisy.
with a substantial downgrade on screen, trackpad and build quality, not to mention the os and durability
yeah, but if you spend 2000 USD maybe you get a way better laptop.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
Is that true? I thought the new mbp had pretty bad linux support.
>God Tier keyboard and trackpad
Really? I've tried the keyboard a bit and I couldn't type for shit.
>Competitively priced
Eh.
I kinda want one without the idotic touchbar solely for the screen. I'd probably have to add protections and it'd end up weighting a ton though.
Is there a cheaper alternative with a decent battey life and a screen that's as good?
Nice pasta, son of bitch
There are old MBP on ebay for about $300
>it's yet another apple shilling thread
Fuck off
>Intel Iris graphics
>$2000+
>Competitively priced
>"Futureproof" meaning covered in ports that might be useful in several years when everything else about the laptop is outdated but to use it right now you need a million dongles
too many memes please send help
>trash keyboard
>dongle
nah the last MBP before redesign was fine though
fpbp
>Kaby Lake
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dongle is just an easy target (low hanging fruit? haha) but actually a fairly poor one - USB-C type connectors are clearly the future and you can get 3-packs of adaptors for about £6.
Like with the iPhone 7. "lol courage port" yeah we get it, it's a fair but wayyyyyy overblown criticism considering most of us have never charged and had a headphone plugged in at the same time.
>2560 x 1600
lmao
Get with the times fuckboi. My laptop has a god damn 4K screen on it you fucking poorfag little pegging bitch.
>muh 4k that I can only notice with a magnifying glass
Enjoy the pointless waste of battery power and GPU load.
Being an easy target doesn't make it wrong. Apple could have easily done 2 type-c and two type-a and avoided this mess entirely. Being "future proof" is retarded when you're actively inconveniencing people in the present.
>my high definition is valid but yours isn't
Come on dude can we just have a reasonable discussion about this
It's not wrong it's just way overblown. Mountain out of a molehill. Adaptors are so cheap you can literally just buy one for every device and solve the problem
>needing to carry an adapter around with you everywhere you go
Yeah I mean there are many ways to explain around it, it's still a completely unnecessary pain in the ass.
I'm not the grandparent comment, but come on - you don't get a reasonable discussion in return by calling people fuckbois and bitches XD
Apple went to great lengths to figure out what "retina", meaning what you reasonably can see a few inches from your face, constitutes. It's just over 300ppi. 4K on a 13" screen is just invisible overkill imo.
Presumably you're already carrying the device around with you (seeing as you need to carry the adapter around with you) so the only "inconvenience" is having a small adapter on the end?
I'm not saying it's ideal, a USB-A port and a little bit more thickness would've been fine and good, but the way people go on, you'd think Apple had literally shat on it and forced a purchase.
>Fake edit: just over 300, inches from your face
I meant to add that laptops don't tend to be inches from your face and 200 is considered fine, before anyone pipes up on that issue!
Why the hell did they get rid if the headphone jack?
Courage
They like to keep things as thin as possible and it wouldn't fit with all the other gubbins they wanted.
Again I think it's a valid criticism (love my SE, which has a headphone jack as an option to use, even though I use bluetooth with it 99% of the time) it's just the way people make out it's the worst thing anyone has ever done and that it's akin to murdering babies.
>courage
That's a funny way to say greed. Buy our Bluetooth headphones, goyim, they're only $199.99. Oh, you don't want those? Well you have to buy our proprietary wired headphones. We're Changing the World® Progress©
>dongle hell
Yeah, I'd rather not. Better off getting an XPS. For the same price you can get an i7, 16GB of RAM and an SSD the same size and speed. A good keyboard, reasonable trackpad, a USB-C Thunderbolt3 port for your newer devices but still have USB3.0 ports for older devices and a card reader.
Honestly don't understand how the Macbook is even an option.
>performs worse than a tablet
> not upgradable
> no network port
> no magsafe
> no vga/hdmi
> dongle hell
While my staingate MBP is good enough and OS X is somewhat useable, I'd still prefer to buy a Lenovo or Dell. Can't beat the resell value tho.
It has shit thermals because of "muh thin."
That's why I hate the new rMBP.
I said "courage" sarcastically, lel, it's a meme.
That said, my bluetooth earbuds cost £11. (That's about $10). You really don't have to buy their shitty airpods, which anyone with a brain thinks is the worst thing they've come up with since the hockey puck mousse.
The real predecessor to the MacBook Pro. It's not the PowerBook, it's the Compaq Evo.
Acually $1,299+
OP is the 13" version.
>God Tier keyboard and trackpad
Why are you lying, OP? No keyboard with less than 2 mm of travel can be called "god tier", and neither can any track pad that is larger than you can move your finger without moving your palm.
Also lol apple layout.
Also pic related.
The fuck is that?
You'd have to kill me before you can see me walk around with that dinosaur.
If you believe in ghosts anyway, as not many of the dead otherwise walk around :)
Have you used it consistently for any significant amount of time? I hated it at first, but now I love it. If I use my 2014 MBP it feels archaic in comparison.
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It's actually competitive pricing at $2100, that's the price I see on Apple
>competitive
The keyboard is alright, but I prefer mechanical.
My only true complaint is the TouchBar. They should've made the entire keyboard a TouchBar.
>soldered ram
>soldered SSD
>glued in battery
That's why.
-t 2008 Unibody Macbook owner.
When they were around you were still in your 2nd dad's balls
Poorfag or not, why do you want to give more money than you should to anyone?
Notice how the MacBook costs less than the equivalent competition, sure it doesn't have as good of thermals but they are still great for their job
I've been shopping around for a true alternative to the mbp and the only one I found that comes remotely close is the OLED Yoga. But for $2000 you're stuck with integrated and a mediocre battery life. Meanwhile for $2200 you get a dGPU and 9 hr battery on the mbp.
I wnat to get one but don't have enough disposable income. I have friends who hace macbooks, looks like a very enjoyable product. Just stuck here with my 2007 compaq and a 2004 desktop
high resolution displays are fucking garbage. osx cant even scale correctly without random bluriness and the other 2 os's are even worse
buying anything higher than 1080 on a laptop display is fucking retarded
>buying anything higher than 1080 on a laptop display is fucking retarded
Fully agree, also it's a waste of battery life
>keyboard
i looked it up and what the fuck? that new switch looks like it was designed to feel good in the Apple store and snap in half 500 keystrokes later.
HAHAHHAHAHhhHhAHAHAHA
no
nothing says "pro" quite like a dual core laptop cpu and 8gb ram
The keyboard is toddler tech, and the price tag is triple what a gently used desktop of similar power would cost. Why the fuck anyone who's not a video editor would purchase such a device other than as a status symbol or being technology-challenged is beyond me.
>anyone who's not a video editor
Even that's not a good reason.
it doesnt have gentoo
>but muh keyboard travel height
(actually has better tactile feedback than other laptop keyboards)
>muh big trackpad
(more gesture room and you can actually click on the entire thing instead of just the bottom two thirds)
>muh dongols
(too poor to spend $5)
>but muh LOWER RESOLUTION DISPLAY
(significant display quality improvement over 1080p and you still get 10 hours of battery)
never change, Sup Forums.
>people actually buy laptops meant as workstations
why
if you need it for work, you'd make your company pay for it
if you don't need it for work, why the fuck do you need these specs for watching porn and shitposting on Sup Forums with a 3 hour battery life
how about this? quad core cpu, decent keyboard, good layout, 15.6" 4K ips screen, and even a gtx 1050 at a lower price. poopy battery life, but with those specs at that price I wouldn't have expected much anyway
specs are not bad, but that crappy hinge design in 2017 is a big no-no for me.
15" laptops are more prone to damage so I would stay away from anything shifty. at least save up to buy something good like XPS 15.
not completely sold on a 2-in-1 15" either.
You blocked the "a" from Facebook
You blocked the "i" from twitter
Does that mean mac is for ai?????
>kaby lake
enjoy your lap burning
>13"
>4 USB-C
yeah that weight and size is not great for a 2 in 1, but if I went with alternatives the price difference between this and the xps is pretty big. if I could I would though
What's a good linux-friendly laptop under $600? I'm sure the MBP is nice, but I won't dump 4 digits on a laptop.
I'm looking for:
>8GB-16GB ram
>SSD hard drive
>1400x900 or bigger screen
>excellent linux support
>brand new OR refurbished
any ideas guys? my older hp laptop is going to shit the bed anytime
SHITTIEST keyboard ever. I miss the 2013 keyboard. That huge ass trackpad is fucking ugly and that touch bar is the most retarded gimmick I have ever seen on a laptop.
> PROFESSIONALS DON'T LOOK AT THEIR KEYBOARD, THUS THIS TOUCH BAR IS A USELESS PIECE OF SHIT.
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ThinkPads and surplus business towers are dirt cheap. You could get either for $100.
I bought the ThinkPad T470 instead.
>Better keyboard
>Better selection of ports
>Better Linux and Windows (solely for running AutoCAD) support
>Better battery life
>Better upgradability
>Dock is just so nice and convenient to use
>>>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
show proof
I have the money and all I want is a good linux support, I don't care about the price. Now I have a thinkpad with 6th generation i7 cpu, and linux support is shit
I have an older yoga 260, linux support is pretty shitty
>mbp 2017
>not bezel less
x 1600 IPS display
It is a nice display but my 2560x1440 OLED display is faster and looks B e a utiful.
>>Kaby-lake CPU
Runs balls hot
>>+8GB RAM
Soldered ram is lame.
>>NVMe SSD (the fastest on any laptop)
It's a placebo beyond ~1.6GB/s I swear.
>>Future proof ready (with 4 USB-C ports)
What? It's future proof by requiring dongles to do anything normal?
>>God Tier keyboard and trackpad
I'm not a fan of the keyboard but that trackpad is clean
>>Competitively priced
Heh no
>>Well suported stable UNIX out of the box
You're not wrong
>>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
>>Sup Forums hates it.
You wouldn't believe it the more you lurk
>Is it because you are a poorfag? This is the best laptop that can exist.
No
>It is a nice display but my 2560x1440 OLED display is faster and looks B e a utiful.
What's your laptop?
I acutally quite liked Macbooks until they changed everything to USB C, and added the stupid touchbar. Why bother? Just get an XPS 13.
>NO PORTS
>O
>P
>O
>R
>T
>S
No phone will have a headphone jack by 2020. Watch.
>giving a shit about bezels
Did you even notice the Inspirion that is ~60℅ of the price with the same specs + a better GPU?
Since I own one of these, I feel free to correct your
>2560 x 1600 IPS display
Just upscaled because GPU can't actually handle that res.
>Kaby-lake CPU
Not even a valid point. Every new notebook has kabylake
>+8GB RAM
Most notebooks in the same price range have more RAMS
>NVMe SSD (the fastest on any laptop)
Wrong. Samsung 960 Pro is fastest. Ever other notebook manufacturer let's you at least replace stock NVMe against Samsung 960 Pro
>Future proof ready (with 4 USB-C ports)
Still no backwards compatible without dongles
>God Tier keyboard and trackpad
Trackpad is fine, keyboard is pretty much shit. Loud as hell
>Competitively priced
not even remotely
>Well suported stable UNIX out of the box
Yes
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
Not at all. There are no Linux drivers yet. Not even for wifi
>Sup Forums hates it.
Yes
What benefit is there to not including a headphone jack? The marginal benefit of removing the jack is nearly zero, especially considering that most camera modules stick out of the phone anyway.
Gives more space to internals in the phone such as the battery.
Plus it encourages wireless headphones which are arguably the future.
What? It takes up next to no room on the board. It's not as though the pcb is crammed anyway. It's all just to satisfy the thin meme.
Honestly I pretty much like everything, but the os, and keyboard. Other than that the other drawback for me is that everything that I'd want to do on that laptop can be done on any old business class laptop that has a second gen i5/i7, or newer. I could probably get by on a c2d laptop to be honest.
Enjoy your TN panel and slow ass SATA SSD you peasant
For $500 I can settle for a couple seconds.
where's the trackpoint device
There's nothing wrong with TN panels. Color shift isn't an issue on a 15" panel, you retard.
>God Tier keyboard
Oh come on OP, even you don't believe this right?
Do you even know that its a fucking gaming laptop with a world apart in specs
This image is almost made to prove that what Intel is inside isn't nearly everything, the display for example on the Dell is miles worse than the Apple, unusable for many creative applications
And then the laptop on the left is using the last generation dual core fucking processor at a much lower clock than the Mac with a quad core AND Polaris graphics
This image high tier baitkai
When they bring back ports instead of being faggots with just USB-C I'm buying one.
I'm not going to play their little game when I can find just as good laptops for $1000 less.
>Kaby-lake CPU
Means nothing
>+8GB RAM
Expandable?
>NVMe SSD (the fastest on any laptop)
Soldered on
>Future proof ready
Are you serious? You can't upgrade it
>God Tier keyboard and trackpad
Keyboard is shit, trackpad is pretty good
>Competitively priced
No comment
>Well suported stable UNIX out of the box
True
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
Absolutely not
>Sup Forums hates it.
With good reason
