This is where we wait for the latest AMD graphics card which AMD will surely release in a timely manner and will definitely blow all of our minds, no questions asked, 100% guaranteed, no chance it'll fail, just you wait.
Last time: Today is the last day at PDXLAN. Last stop is the big reveal at SIGGRAPH 2017 on July 30th.
sub 1080 performance in most gaymes Same price as 1080 for the WC version Twice the power when OC'd Struggle to get 1750+mhz when OC'd That's my bets for vega
Seeing as w're waiting for 18+ months for navi is the 1080ti a good investment?
Isaac Lee
>Twice the power when OC'd >500W Uhhhhh
Christopher Phillips
>another GPU thread Oh, even another retarded shitposter.
Eli Evans
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Michael Lopez
kek >Oh, even another retarded shitposter. He is right tho, Vega is DOA
Yeah, it's a piece of shit, it's an XLR. It's a Cadillac, it's built on a fucking Cadillac fucking goddamn platform, it's a Cadillac.
Juan Moore
What the fuck?
Joseph Morales
You just got soundboarded on, pal.
Chase Fisher
I want Sup Forums to die.
Alexander Sanchez
7 MORE DAYS
John Thompson
Low tier Vega is slightly faster than GTX 1070. Add to it freesync and it performs very close to GTX 1080. Next Vega is 1080 performance. Highest Vega is 1080Ti. Vega rules because its basically equal to novidia or slightly slower but with freesync support. Source: my ass. Believe it or not.
Carson Ross
I hate weekends.
Angel Thompson
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Landon Rodriguez
>Freesync suddenly adds 15-20% performance Idiot.
Hunter Brown
I meant as of perceptive smoothness, dummy.
Ian Howard
my cock adds 30% performance
Jackson Edwards
Doesn't matter, retard.
Camden Campbell
Huh?
Leo Taylor
Perception =/= Performance
You're the reason AMD is never held accountable for poor performance. A turd covered in gold dust is still a turd.
Eli Martinez
Waiting to see how good RX vega is as i'd really like to have an all-AMD 4k build. My trusty 290x has served me well for years but its no 4k card outside of a ludicrous overclock and medium settings at a 30fps lock.
Adrian Lewis
>Perception =/= Performance I just told you what i meant. Dude, your slow.
Jacob Smith
Got some info from an European distributor about Vega and they said that that it's launching on the 30th. So it's not going to be a paper launch like a lot of people have been saying.
Michael Ramirez
Reference ones? Maybe. But definetly not AiBs.
Nolan Bailey
not to mention you'd have to be retarded to buy nvidia at the end of the cycle it's either vega or volta at this point, no third option.
Carter Cruz
>Volta It's bigger dies.
Eli Wilson
some people buy them, I will wait for sapphire
most realistic scenario is that cheapest vega is 1080 level for $350 considering all the leaks, and hints but don't hold your breath
worst case it's 10% above 1080 for same price for middle vega
yeah, but it will have enough life in it before navi/whatever mcm nvidia will name
Dominic Moore
>most realistic scenario is that cheapest vega is 1080 level for $350 considering all the leaks Ha ha no. You're in for a surprise.
Jaxon Parker
>I will wait for sapphire
If the RX PCB is the same as FE PCB if sapphire straight up slaps their fury tri-c cooler on it on it it would be a monster. In fact assuming FE PCB = RX PCB you'd want to actively buy reference pcb cards precisely because you can't really get much better sensibly but you can easily cheap out and make a worse board.
Henry Hall
you know that surprise is inherently semantically and etymologically has positive emotional connotation? I hope you do, because I like surprises.
Josiah James
reference cooler is loud. sapphire cooler is quiet.
Zachary Parker
Oh, it'll be a nice one. Vega won't be a high-margin product, AMD wants marketshare back after Fiji disaster.
Ian Morales
>reference cooler is loud It's a fucking blower. We're talking PCBs, and ref one is as perfect as it gets.
Andrew James
You didn't read did you? PCB =/= cooler.
Eli Ortiz
unless i'd be willing to buy aftermarket cooler for GPU - reference is a no. No matter how good PCB is. it can be made out of platinum for all I care, if card will annoy me to no end I won't buy it
Grayson Long
The dude is saying AiBs don't even need a fucking custom PCB. They can just slap a cooler and be done with it.
Austin Nelson
>waiting 7+ months for the 1180 when it'll be 15% faster at most than a 1080ti >waiting 7 months to gain 15% and save $100
If you really wanted the extra performance that bad, just buy the 1080ti now and sell it once volta releases. It'd end up costing more but at least you're not sitting on your ass unable to play at high refresh/resolution for ages
Nathaniel Flores
>1180 when it'll be 15% faster at most than a 1080ti Hahahahaha no. It's not even a proper dieshrink.
Grayson Peterson
>Add to it freesync and it performs very close to GTX 1080 No, you implied that freesync gives a boost in performance.
Stop moving the goal posts, idiot.
Daniel Myers
Stop being obtuse, dude. I corrected myself.
Colton Harris
>Highest Vega is 1080Ti That is some serious delusion user.
If they have a ti level vega sitting around why are they only demoing the almost a 1080 one?
Colton Adams
These performance metrics keep getting stranger. Truly amdrones arn't reaching at all.
Nolan Martinez
Volta is still an option tho, and at this rate it is wait 1 months for vega or 3 for volta.
And since vega looks to only match 10xx nvidia levels at lower price points if your goal is performance you should probrably buy volta 2080 which will be faster than vega 1080 clone by 10-20%.
Eli Watson
>most realistic scenario is that cheapest vega is 1080 level for $350 considering all the leaks Ha, did you even see the 500 series? That is not how amd operates.
Andrew Myers
>or 3 for volta. more like 7
Ayden Hall
you mean the 580 that can do 1440p now which 480 barely could? or 570 that can do 1080p which 470 could do only medium settings? without any price change? yeah, AMD so shit
Jason Foster
AIB partners will show the true power of VEGA just you wait.
Cameron Wright
But the 470 could oc to 480 levels of performance.
Joseph Powell
>you mean the 580 that can do 1440p now which 480 barely could? There was barely anny difference between both those cards you stupid cunt
Elijah Collins
580 is clocked a lot higher(and can OC higher) and doesn't throttle like a 480
At least the reference ones.
Liam Foster
Stop already, and stop comparing non reference cards to reference cards
The 580 was a refresh with 10% performance difference at best, much less with both cards oc'd
Jonathan Morgan
Do you think the Strix series will be golden samples like the RX 480 was?
Tyler Reyes
Both are reference, only the 480 throttles.
I wouldn't buy a reference Polaris card, but your premise is wrong.
Blake Taylor
Not the same guy but 10% sounds good for a refresh. Also why would oc make the difference less when the whole point of the 500 series was better overclockability? Both the 480 and the 1060 just barely scraped 1440p territory, and possible 10+% increase might just do it. So explain or stfu.
Ayden Price
>guy told me to get a lower wattage PSU because "you'll never use that much power" >mfw I got a higher wattage PSU anyways
Caleb Morales
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Dominic Baker
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Jose Cox
Racks and racks of memes. Oh, it's glorious. Just imagine all the memes those can calculate.
Gabriel Reyes
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Jackson Cook
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Jeremiah Russell
Only 350watts with disabled power gating? Meh.
Evan Anderson
vega is dead just like fury was dead.
It's okay user, atleast their cpu's can carry then until raja gets fired
Dominic Anderson
Oh yes, now i will totally give my money to lether jacket man!
Jack Perry
All I see here is cards sticking to their TDP ratings.
Besides Fury X, what the fuck is up with that?
Cooper Thomas
580's are still untarnished user if you are not looking at high end
>only They are bumping up against the 375 max wattage spec that card was designed for
Hunter Young
Tesla P100 and V100 are examples of HBM2 done right (4 stacks). AMD Vega is an example of HBM done wrong (2 stacks).
Brandon Sullivan
It's only moar bandwith. Aka you should stop drinking JHH's semen. Also what's Fiji then? It also has 4 stacks. :^)
Eli Murphy
Memory Bandwidth is useless unless the shaders need them.
Example: A shader array only pulling 300GB/s of bandwidth would perform the same with 500GB/s bandwidth available, besides maybe using few watts less.
Joseph Myers
>Also what's Fiji then? An example of HBM done right.
Camden Flores
Knows how much you fucking know.
Robert Jones
Shows*
Jaxon King
>mfw insider at AMD tells me he's selling his stock before VEGA hits
It's that bad dudes.
Henry Turner
Desktop Vega will have a marginal impact on stock, some 10% at best.
Fuck even the Threadripper announcement lowered stock, because investors wanted higher margins. Fucking clowns.
Chase Miller
t. Jen Hsun Huang Vega will definetly drop the stocks, since margins would be quite low, AMD will undercut nvidia to gain market/mindshare back.
Luke Richardson
Point is it's been in development for years.
AMD hasn't been profitable forever. This VEGA is going to put them further in the hole.
Aiden Reyes
>AMD stock
You mean that thing that drops 30% out of nowhere and bounces back in 2 weeks?
Gavin Harris
Yes. An emotinal rollercoaster! The one you'll never miss! $AMD! >Point is it's been in development for years. It's 2 years at worst, JHH.
Kayden Morales
No
Hahahaha fucking lol.
Sebastian Martin
Denial.
Emotionally trading stocks isn't wise. I'll be shorting AMD after VEGA release.
Charles Long
Oh yes you will. While screaming >anudda R300 ?
Austin Hughes
It'll lower stock, but not significantly. No one denies this, you should sell before Vega drops.
CPUs are far more important to the company, even the retarded investors know this.
Isaac Hughes
user, Vega has 4 different lines.
Instinct, RX, FE and WX
Instinct has multiple SKU FE has multiple SKU WX has multiple SKU for 2 different products (WX Pro and WX SSG), so likely 3-5 SKU Mobile(uknown) and APU parts(unknown) And you're telling me 2 RX Vega SKU out of some 11(which could easily double with mobile and apu parts) is gonna ruin Vega? Are you fucking serious or that clueless?
Josiah Lewis
It's going down to single digits. You saw the overreaction at first ER.
Bentley Morgan
Oh yes it will. You just need to scream >anudda R300 louder that is.
Tyler Lee
Okay, now I know you're retarded.
I'd want that to happen so I can buy a shitload of stock, but that's likely to happen as Apple selling the next MBP for $500
Jonathan Taylor
I recommend selling now you two.
The next ER is coming up in two days and it will not be better than expected.
Why?
Because despite the 480's and 580's being sold out. They only produced enough of them to at best break even. Perhaps if they predicted the huge demand it would be different. They simply did not make enough to exceed expected earnings.
Sell now or get slaughtered.
Dominic Jones
Polaris isn't even a factor in Q2 ER, are you dumb?
Nathaniel Wilson
He's shitposting. Isn't it obvious?
Gavin Butler
It's not what I believe. It's what the sheep believe.
And believe me, the sheep are expecting a very good ER for precisely this reason.
Andrew Peterson
AMD has said themselves several times that they're not betting anything on mining. If investors sell because of this, they're better off fucking off and not investing because they can't do basic research.
AMD stock has a lot of "young investor" retards from RH, they're better weeded out so people holding long go in