/w4v/ - Daily Wait for Vega Thread - 7 Day Countdown

Hi all,

This is where we wait for the latest AMD graphics card which AMD will surely release in a timely manner and will definitely blow all of our minds, no questions asked, 100% guaranteed, no chance it'll fail, just you wait.

Last time: Today is the last day at PDXLAN. Last stop is the big reveal at SIGGRAPH 2017 on July 30th.

The latest:
techpowerup.com/235297/amds-rx-vega-low-key-budapest-event-vega-pitted-against-gtx-1080
gamersnexus.net/guides/2990-vega-frontier-edition-undervolt-benchmarks-improve-performance
twitter.com/RadeonPro/status/886357116889559040
pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Liquid-Cooled-Review
gamersnexus.net/guides/2988-vega-fe-watercooled-tear-down-and-internals

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATi_Radeon_R300_Series
twitter.com/AnonBabble

sub 1080 performance in most gaymes
Same price as 1080 for the WC version
Twice the power when OC'd
Struggle to get 1750+mhz when OC'd
That's my bets for vega

Seeing as w're waiting for 18+ months for navi is the 1080ti a good investment?

>Twice the power when OC'd
>500W
Uhhhhh

>another GPU thread
Oh, even another retarded shitposter.

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kek
>Oh, even another retarded shitposter.
He is right tho, Vega is DOA

Yes, Vega is DOA, just like R300 was totally DOA.

The 3xx are OC 2xx tho

Holy fuck.
Fuck fuck fuck kill yourself newfag.

>kek
Navi's fucking overrated.

??? Also only summerfags call people newfag...

Literally what?

You know what the fuck R300 was?

"slap more VRAM on it and call it a day"

No, I mean R300.
You know what the fuck R300 was?

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATi_Radeon_R300_Series
Smells like summer in here.

Yeah, it's a piece of shit, it's an XLR. It's a Cadillac, it's built on a fucking Cadillac fucking goddamn platform, it's a Cadillac.

What the fuck?

You just got soundboarded on, pal.

I want Sup Forums to die.

7 MORE DAYS

Low tier Vega is slightly faster than GTX 1070. Add to it freesync and it performs very close to GTX 1080. Next Vega is 1080 performance. Highest Vega is 1080Ti. Vega rules because its basically equal to novidia or slightly slower but with freesync support. Source: my ass. Believe it or not.

I hate weekends.

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>Freesync suddenly adds 15-20% performance
Idiot.

I meant as of perceptive smoothness, dummy.

my cock adds 30% performance

Doesn't matter, retard.

Huh?

Perception =/= Performance

You're the reason AMD is never held accountable for poor performance. A turd covered in gold dust is still a turd.

Waiting to see how good RX vega is as i'd really like to have an all-AMD 4k build. My trusty 290x has served me well for years but its no 4k card outside of a ludicrous overclock and medium settings at a 30fps lock.

>Perception =/= Performance
I just told you what i meant. Dude, your slow.

Got some info from an European distributor about Vega and they said that that it's launching on the 30th. So it's not going to be a paper launch like a lot of people have been saying.

Reference ones?
Maybe.
But definetly not AiBs.

not to mention you'd have to be retarded to buy nvidia at the end of the cycle
it's either vega or volta at this point, no third option.

>Volta
It's bigger dies.

some people buy them, I will wait for sapphire

most realistic scenario is that cheapest vega is 1080 level for $350 considering all the leaks, and hints but don't hold your breath

worst case it's 10% above 1080 for same price for middle vega

yeah, but it will have enough life in it before navi/whatever mcm nvidia will name

>most realistic scenario is that cheapest vega is 1080 level for $350 considering all the leaks
Ha ha no.
You're in for a surprise.

>I will wait for sapphire

If the RX PCB is the same as FE PCB if sapphire straight up slaps their fury tri-c cooler on it on it it would be a monster. In fact assuming FE PCB = RX PCB you'd want to actively buy reference pcb cards precisely because you can't really get much better sensibly but you can easily cheap out and make a worse board.

you know that surprise is inherently semantically and etymologically has positive emotional connotation?
I hope you do, because I like surprises.

reference cooler is loud.
sapphire cooler is quiet.

Oh, it'll be a nice one.
Vega won't be a high-margin product, AMD wants marketshare back after Fiji disaster.

>reference cooler is loud
It's a fucking blower.
We're talking PCBs, and ref one is as perfect as it gets.

You didn't read did you? PCB =/= cooler.

unless i'd be willing to buy aftermarket cooler for GPU - reference is a no.
No matter how good PCB is. it can be made out of platinum for all I care, if card will annoy me to no end I won't buy it

The dude is saying AiBs don't even need a fucking custom PCB. They can just slap a cooler and be done with it.

>waiting 7+ months for the 1180 when it'll be 15% faster at most than a 1080ti
>waiting 7 months to gain 15% and save $100

If you really wanted the extra performance that bad, just buy the 1080ti now and sell it once volta releases. It'd end up costing more but at least you're not sitting on your ass unable to play at high refresh/resolution for ages

>1180 when it'll be 15% faster at most than a 1080ti
Hahahahaha no.
It's not even a proper dieshrink.

>Add to it freesync and it performs very close to GTX 1080
No, you implied that freesync gives a boost in performance.

Stop moving the goal posts, idiot.

Stop being obtuse, dude. I corrected myself.

>Highest Vega is 1080Ti
That is some serious delusion user.

If they have a ti level vega sitting around why are they only demoing the almost a 1080 one?

These performance metrics keep getting stranger. Truly amdrones arn't reaching at all.

Volta is still an option tho, and at this rate it is wait 1 months for vega or 3 for volta.

And since vega looks to only match 10xx nvidia levels at lower price points if your goal is performance you should probrably buy volta 2080 which will be faster than vega 1080 clone by 10-20%.

>most realistic scenario is that cheapest vega is 1080 level for $350 considering all the leaks
Ha, did you even see the 500 series? That is not how amd operates.

>or 3 for volta.
more like 7

you mean the 580 that can do 1440p now which 480 barely could?
or 570 that can do 1080p which 470 could do only medium settings?
without any price change?
yeah, AMD so shit

AIB partners will show the true power of VEGA just you wait.

But the 470 could oc to 480 levels of performance.

>you mean the 580 that can do 1440p now which 480 barely could?
There was barely anny difference between both those cards you stupid cunt

580 is clocked a lot higher(and can OC higher) and doesn't throttle like a 480

At least the reference ones.

Stop already, and stop comparing non reference cards to reference cards

The 580 was a refresh with 10% performance difference at best, much less with both cards oc'd

Do you think the Strix series will be golden samples like the RX 480 was?

Both are reference, only the 480 throttles.

I wouldn't buy a reference Polaris card, but your premise is wrong.

Not the same guy but 10% sounds good for a refresh. Also why would oc make the difference less when the whole point of the 500 series was better overclockability?
Both the 480 and the 1060 just barely scraped 1440p territory, and possible 10+% increase might just do it. So explain or stfu.

>guy told me to get a lower wattage PSU because "you'll never use that much power"
>mfw I got a higher wattage PSU anyways

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Racks and racks of memes. Oh, it's glorious. Just imagine all the memes those can calculate.

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Only 350watts with disabled power gating?
Meh.

vega is dead just like fury was dead.

It's okay user, atleast their cpu's can carry then until raja gets fired

Oh yes, now i will totally give my money to lether jacket man!

All I see here is cards sticking to their TDP ratings.

Besides Fury X, what the fuck is up with that?

580's are still untarnished user if you are not looking at high end

>only
They are bumping up against the 375 max wattage spec that card was designed for

Tesla P100 and V100 are examples of HBM2 done right (4 stacks).
AMD Vega is an example of HBM done wrong (2 stacks).

It's only moar bandwith.
Aka you should stop drinking JHH's semen.
Also what's Fiji then?
It also has 4 stacks. :^)

Memory Bandwidth is useless unless the shaders need them.

Example: A shader array only pulling 300GB/s of bandwidth would perform the same with 500GB/s bandwidth available, besides maybe using few watts less.

>Also what's Fiji then?
An example of HBM done right.

Knows how much you fucking know.

Shows*

>mfw insider at AMD tells me he's selling his stock before VEGA hits

It's that bad dudes.

Desktop Vega will have a marginal impact on stock, some 10% at best.

Fuck even the Threadripper announcement lowered stock, because investors wanted higher margins.
Fucking clowns.

t. Jen Hsun Huang
Vega will definetly drop the stocks, since margins would be quite low, AMD will undercut nvidia to gain market/mindshare back.

Point is it's been in development for years.

AMD hasn't been profitable forever. This VEGA is going to put them further in the hole.

>AMD stock

You mean that thing that drops 30% out of nowhere and bounces back in 2 weeks?

Yes.
An emotinal rollercoaster!
The one you'll never miss!
$AMD!
>Point is it's been in development for years.
It's 2 years at worst, JHH.

No

Hahahaha fucking lol.

Denial.

Emotionally trading stocks isn't wise. I'll be shorting AMD after VEGA release.

Oh yes you will.
While screaming
>anudda R300
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It'll lower stock, but not significantly.
No one denies this, you should sell before Vega drops.

CPUs are far more important to the company, even the retarded investors know this.

user, Vega has 4 different lines.

Instinct, RX, FE and WX

Instinct has multiple SKU
FE has multiple SKU
WX has multiple SKU for 2 different products (WX Pro and WX SSG), so likely 3-5 SKU
Mobile(uknown) and APU parts(unknown)
And you're telling me 2 RX Vega SKU out of some 11(which could easily double with mobile and apu parts) is gonna ruin Vega? Are you fucking serious or that clueless?

It's going down to single digits. You saw the overreaction at first ER.

Oh yes it will.
You just need to scream
>anudda R300
louder that is.

Okay, now I know you're retarded.

I'd want that to happen so I can buy a shitload of stock, but that's likely to happen as Apple selling the next MBP for $500

I recommend selling now you two.

The next ER is coming up in two days and it will not be better than expected.

Why?

Because despite the 480's and 580's being sold out. They only produced enough of them to at best break even. Perhaps if they predicted the huge demand it would be different. They simply did not make enough to exceed expected earnings.

Sell now or get slaughtered.

Polaris isn't even a factor in Q2 ER, are you dumb?

He's shitposting.
Isn't it obvious?

It's not what I believe. It's what the sheep believe.

And believe me, the sheep are expecting a very good ER for precisely this reason.

AMD has said themselves several times that they're not betting anything on mining.
If investors sell because of this, they're better off fucking off and not investing because they can't do basic research.

AMD stock has a lot of "young investor" retards from RH, they're better weeded out so people holding long go in