Daily reminder once Linus dies your kernel will be more infected than it is right now. Daily reminder little by little Red Hat and Debian are introducing very suspicious stuff to the code.
daily reminder the kernel will have thousands of lines of bloatware code that will never be removed
Move to FreeBSD or TempleOS right now.
Not even Gentoo will be safe
Move to FreeBSD right now
Michael Walker
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Levi Evans
I'll wait about a week until release 11.1 comes out and try it again.
Hudson Richardson
It's like looking at a bunch of underachieving neckbeard virgins, except these are female armpitbeard versions.
Zachary Nguyen
Austin Moore
>Red Hat and Debian are introducing very suspicious stuff to the code.
>Debian
Like what?
William Rivera
#OppressedSquad
Grayson Scott
red hat pay a lot of coders to modify the kernel
they claim they are''fixing'' it but it's impossible to track since they make so many modifications
They modify a lot of other software too which Debian incorporates in their distro.
John Hughes
Please share this:
theregister.co.uk
blog.eset.ie
Daily reminder once Linus dies no one will bother to remove shit code and malware from the kernel
Daily reminder Stallman can't be trusted with his shit GPL policy
Daily reminder Ubuntu introduced adware and spyware in 14.04 LTS and they will do it again in the future
Daily reminder Linux Mint team ''forgot'' to secure the servers and exposed the password of all of its users
Sebastian Martinez
But what suspicious stuff are they adding to code? I'm sure you can name at least a few examples, right?
Joshua Moore
>the state of BSDfags
Xavier Nguyen
I can
92% of systemd modifications were written by red hat employees.
No one ever look at the code. Even Linus admitted systemd fix some issues but it will be bloatware in the very future
zdnet.com
The german leftist retard who wrote systemd can't be trusted. He is very hysterical and emotional when it comes to dealing with security
Carson Gray
>Linux Mint team ''forgot'' to secure the servers and exposed the password of all of its users
Passwords to what?
Nathan Nguyen
They're called legbeards, newshit.
Ryan Mitchell
But what suspicious stuff is Debian introducing to the code, like OP claimed?
Ryan Russell
For gods sake, this is why Linux will always be a fucking catastrophe. Windows will be one in the same manner. Looks like macOS hackintosh is the only sensible thing to do.
Hudson Long
all users passwords were exposed
Obviously it's a lie.You don't store the password of 25,000+ users in a very amateur servers.
Ian Parker
>But what suspicious
>dude I am just pretending I want information but I really want to claim Ubuntu is totally safe and you shouldn't worry about the kernel
>I mean are you a nerd? hahaha
fuck off
Brandon Edwards
OP was talking about the kernel, do you retards default to systemd bashing every time you're cornered?
Easton Cook
Systemd: backed by Redhat and promoted by Debian
soylentnews.org
bugs.freedesktop.org
www-01.ibm.com
TL;DR: ewontfix.com
Robert Clark
User passwords to linux mint, because I don't remember having to make an account, or give them passwords to anything ever.
Josiah Russell
the same people that write and modify systemd garbage also contribute to the kernel you stupid whore
Isaiah Collins
hackaday.com
blog.linuxmint.com
>As far as the forum compromise, the breech netted usernames, emails, and encrypted passwords, as well as personal information that forum users may have entered in signatures or private messages.
Aaron Johnson
But what are their suspicious contributions? I'm sure you can name them.
Jayden Bell
>it's impossible to track
You could, you know, read the source code. This is not guaranteed to be possible in future versions of FreeBSD or TempleOS.
Jacob Turner
you look like those /r/atheism fedora fags
Blake Bell
Can't you name these suspicious contributions? What a shame.
Charles Clark
>This is not guaranteed to be possible in future versions of FreeBSD
The sad state of Sup Forums
Brayden Edwards
Don't laugh at me, but i've been using Haiku as my daily driver for about a week now, and it's really good. I wish more people would use it so that more software gets ported to it, but as it is it handles my usage well. Always get the nightly, though.
Nathan Garcia
Why don't you post your desktop? Maybe because it's w10? :^)
Matthew Green
>We are also proud that many of the top kernel developers recognized in both write-ups are Red Hat employees
as I said, once Linus dies no one will bother to remove the crap Red Hat introduces.
Also the kernel as of today is impossible to audit. It's not a total mess thanks to Linus that tries to keep it slightly stable
Still the kernel is far from stable and today people are moving to upstream because the stable version is so buggy it's not even worth using for a long time
Elijah James
Asking for evidence for stupid claims is being a fedora now?
Isaiah Myers
>being this desperate to get another (you)
there you go. it's free
Kevin Hill
>moving to upstream because the stable version is so buggy it's not even worth using for a long time
wtf are you up to? Lts vanilla kernels are stable af. Nobody forced to use red patches though.
Luke Howard
>Lts vanilla kernels are stable af
>he doesn't know
Yes sure, just wait a few years until they start to introduce nvidia and amd spyware code there
Jacob Parker
Nobody will take your FUD seriously this way. Try harder or go back to Mumbai.
Jordan Bell
>tells people to use templeos in the op
>people take him seriously
wew
Jason Myers
>he is so hard defending Red Hat kernel that he is claiming I am the pajeet
Don't you take your meds on sunday?
lwn.net
Tyler Jones
>Temple OS code
>not totally free of bloatware
>b-but
:)
Carson Carter
No. Install Haiku OS.
Kevin Carter
so funny XD
Alexander Cox
TempleOS is totally open source contrary to popular myth spread by Sup Forums 16 year old retards
the website is down right now but everyone can find the code there later
Tyler Evans
Unrelated.
Cameron Barnes
>he thinks the updates that lead to a stable release is unrelated
(You)
Cameron Cruz
So Terry Nigger is part of the botnet.
Kevin Morales
...
Kevin Anderson
>61526824
>he thinks patches only backported by RH
Colton Roberts
Worst thread of the day.
Isaiah Smith
>61526858
>after trying to get so many (you) people didn't fall for my baits
Cooper Ramirez
There is one retard in this thread
>Claims updates are unrelated to the kernel
>Gets called out
>reacts like a hysterical prostitute
Sup Forums was a mistake
Ayden James
If you have a problem with the local kernel. Use another kernel. Openbsdk is available, so is hurd and open Solaris. I think there is another Mach one available as well.
Michael Morris
What updates retard?
Cameron Rogers
Thin skinned retard who can't read even what he links.
Xavier White
>freebsd
run openbsd you dumb nigger
Lincoln Reed
these retards don't even know what a kernel is
Easton Myers
>no adblock
>using shit wallpaper
I honestly hope you are not this retarded
John Brooks
Reasoning is your weak point.
Dominic Cruz
I hope you are pretending to be retarded.
Andrew Foster
Crappy scheduler and slow filesystem.
Also sndio have shitty output and barely supported by anything.
William Williams
adblock was not installed at the time of this install, it is now : )
bliss is great, i love it with the windows nt era GTK theme KDE uses, super ironic 2
Thomas Perry
sacrificing slight speed for the some of the best secrurity around, shit argument, but it is your opinion and i cannot fault you on it.
ZFS is great, both my file server and desktop have run it for years and I have not had any issues, fast enough for me...
>sndio
works with my mobo audio, why should i care?
Jace Cruz
>slight speed
My scripts was 4 times slower on it than on obango.
ZFS isn't available for openbsd.
Lucas Bell
marc.info
please don't argue about things you have no experience in, you make yourself look retarded.
>my scripts
Blake Carter
That's an April Fools joke you fucking retard.
>please don't argue about things you have no experience in, you make yourself look retarded.
Chase Martinez
april fools joke fully coded and running on my computer...
i am active in the mailing group and have spoken to theo personally... i even have a amd64 port for the link i posted str8 from developer.
James Russell
Ffs is the default. I have yet to see someone with openbsd using ZFS. Feel free to show yours :)
Mason Allen
>Move to FreeBSD or TempleOS right now.
because those two operating systems are so similar
Asher Bennett
Here is Ted Unangst's blog post about it the very next day, explaining why OpenBSD doesn't have ZFS:
Daniel Long
tfw lose argumant
Connor Morgan
youtube.com
Free of bloatware and bad code.
Not that linux is garbage.. there is a decent Linux distro called Arch and Devuan.. the problem is that their distro is heavily based on whatever red hat writes on the kernel
I'd go with TrueOS if you are a new user
Gabriel Wilson
imright and your wrong, simple as that
Michael Robinson
>I was merely pretending
en.wikipedia.org
Nathan Phillips
>wikipedia
fuck off troll
seriously though, no openbsd does not support ZFS
why should it? the link you posted above explains why the stock filesystem is good enough.
Sebastian Butler
Where are the examples faggot?
Nicholas Ward
did you mean to quote me? because what youre saying has nothing to do with the fact that the op recommended two vastly different operating systems as alternatives to linux.
one is a decent, tested OS... and the other is a hobbyist project.
you don't know what youre talking about if youre suggesting those operating systems as both viable alternatives for linux users.
Isaac Lee
It goes like this
Linus > BSD > Terry A. Davis
The problem is once Linus dies Linux will become worse than windows
Matthew Baker
N?
Angel Richardson
>TrueOS
>Devuan
>not easy and user friendly as Mint
you are the problem with modern society
Logan Rivera
honestly templeos is a solid OS with a ton of shitty religous addons
i highly doubt it would be usable for a desktop user, but it would run pretty nicely on embedded devices if it were coded in that direction and minimal.
Jeremiah Carter
: ((
no spellchecker on openbsd
:^)
Thomas Ramirez
Butthurt faggot.
Nathaniel Cruz
>butthurt
i would be if i had a bf : (
Wyatt Fisher
>Minnesota Schools Adopt Transgender Toolkit for Kindergartners
freebeacon.com
Wyatt Morgan
>virgins
I'm sure they've munched each others' carpets.
Jonathan Scott
Systemd is good, you 90 year old man stuck in his ways.
>inb4 berated by autists.
Michael Ortiz
this is what a shill looks like
Cameron Lopez
"First they came for the init . . . "
Thomas Bailey
BSD is useless as a desktop operating system.
Who's paying you to shill this garbage?
Because nobody in their right mind would do it for free.
Lincoln Hernandez
what do you shitheads think about midori?
xD
Brayden Jones
Is that toilet paper?
Aiden Rivera
Why? Give me a legitimate reason?
If you claim security, let me refute you right away:
pledge is a system call wrapper and therefore suffers from many forms of attacks, such as time-of-check-to-time-of-use, allowing you to bypass pledge. Additionally, even the OpenBSD man page claims that they hope the executed program will be pledged, as you're out of the sandbox the moment you exec.
Furthermore, ASLR (or ASR in OpenBSD) is pretty shitty, and besides, the smallest information leak can de-randomize the entire space.
KARL is a retarded thing because you have enough leaks in your kernel to actually not even care about KARL.
You have absolutely no notion of any sort of mandatory access control, and claiming that it's somehow bad speaks margins about the knowledge OpenBSD folks have in security.
LibreSSL claims to be more secure with 0 proof that it actually is (muh CVE numbers, hint, it doesn't mean it's more secure).
W^X is not strict, i.e., i can mmap() a page twice, once write, once exec and get W|X. Doesn't really save you. Furthermore, page aliasing is a problem here because it's a on a page-wide basis, not on a pointer-wide basis. NOEXEC suffers from this problem as well.
On top of that, OpenBSD forks almost every utility out there and has to maintain it with less manpower than the upstream, then claims it's more secure without anyone actually testing it properly outside of the said people who call it secure.
And with all that, OpenBSD's excuse for an outright awful system (filesystem, scheduler, netstack (starving modern NICs of buffers because your SMP sucks, wow...)) is the very thing I've just ranted on: security.
TL;DR: There is literally no reason to use this god awful system, stay away from it if you care about security or if you care about any form of usefulness from your system.
Anthony Kelly
>suspicious stuff
Wtf does that mean?
Can't you guys just audit open source software easily?
I'm not a programmer so I'm asking seriously.
Ethan James
I'm already using it.
Ethan Lee
The smell in that room must be unbearable
Owen Thomas
Typical bullshit you'll hear desu. There is nothing questionable being added, it's just gigantic and not well thought out. You can audit the source code, the problem with it is that it's in the kernel and therefore difficult to actually test/fuzz/asan/tsan and so on, so it's kind of difficult to find bugs/exploits. I'm not excluding that someone's leaving in a vuln with malicious intents, but it's likely not Red Hat and Debian.
Owen Torres
People have been saying this for all *nix systems since NT, it wasen't true then, it sure as hell isn't true now.
>SunOS, on a workstation?!
>Linux, on a workstation?!
et al.
The software has only gotten more standard and more widespread. Even on the most esoteric hardware you can probably get pkg-src to run on it and install a graphical environment that's suitable for daily tasks, this is like the worst possible scenario and it's still fine.
Jaxon Butler
i appreciate the write-up debating to switch
is freebsd safer?
i am paranoid t b h
Noah Howard
show us the exploits then
Jackson Rodriguez
>female
Gavin Mitchell
I'm defining the bullshit bulleted list fallacy. you touch on a list of buzzwords briefly, in succession, so it makes you look like you know what you're talking about when really you don't
Noah Howard
>kernel
>systemd
please pick one