What's the deal with Slovenia and Slovakia?

What's the deal with Slovenia and Slovakia?

I mean, what's the deal?

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It's a slavic inside joke to make people from the west think there are different peoples when they are actually all just crypto-russians

>Slovakia
Did you mean CZECHOSLOVAKIA?

Slovaks are hungarians in denial

Both come from one slavic tribe, got separated due to Habsburgs- eternal german in the action.

Both are with lot of mountains and slavic. Other than that we dont have much in common nowadays

As to why the names are so similiar- they both mean land of slavs in old slavonic

Both flags were created in 1848 at Prague panslavic congress.
The Slovak flag is just panslavic tricolor, the emblem is how Slovakia was represented in Kingdom of Hungary, the mountains are Tatra Matra Fatra-2 of those are present in modern day Slovakia, the cross is just byzantine symbol

No clue about Slovenian emblem

Both are unironically more similiar to Austrians than to Russians

>got separated due to Habsburgs- eternal german in the action.
>eternal german
literally the only reason why you're not a complete shithole, m8

without eternal šváb we would be protestant country with stuart dynasty as kings

so fuk of russian rape baby

Was there ever a slovenian or slovakian independent state before the late 20th century? Poland, Serbia and a few others make sense t.b.h but they just seem like meme countries.

>biting the hand that has given you every piece of civilization you've ever known
Slav/10

Slovak Republic was a clerical fascist puppet state of Nazi Germany

Nominally independent

Fuck off Jerry.

top kek. Germs took way more from us than we got.

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kremnica

>slovakian
its just slovak
they seem like meme to you because you are ignorant

I meant in real history

Slovakia twice the people, twice the land area, the gdp

What

Clippy, you need an update.

these german myths lol

>stuart dynasty

not really a good thing

>literal fucking colony calling other countries meme

Same relevance i.e. none

Which one are these guys from?

>ask a question
>"they seem like meme to you because you are ignorant"
ok

I meant did you have kings n shiet or is it just a by product of 20th century memes

so? We're a new world country

We wuz kings, fought Frank's, Hungarians, Bulgsrians and Greeks, while you Germs slaughtered yourselves in your duchies as an imperial pastime. It took Austrians to hold you by the balls and civilise you

>country is part of kingdom for 1000 years
>did you have any kings

2003 - birth of indep. Slovak rep.
oh.. okay.

Nope, we wuzn't kangs.

Slovak national identity developed in the 19th century as a reaction to Hungarian nationalism. Before that we were just Slavs living in the Upper Hungary.

they're very young countries but the actual land, cultures, people etc. are not

The Slovene flag comes from the colours of the Duchy of Carniola and go back to the 14th century. Panslavism is a meme.

still better than inbred habsburg

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Stuart,_Queen_of_Bohemia

>those differing colors
ree

it actually developed thanks to French revolution. The magayrization was response to it

its a meme but super succesful one

I'll never learn the difference between those two

Czechoslovenia is austrian clay

Funny how all three golden ages were not under Habsburg rule:
>Přemysl Otakar II. Iron and Golden King
>Karel IV.
>First Czechoslovak Republic

golden ages struck under Habsburgs:
0 (Zero)

So in medieval times, were you treated the same as hungarian peasants or did you have some sort of political autonomy? Whats the difference between you and croats?

austroslovenia is czech clay

we are the biggest one

Yes, ofc. Nationalism and nation states started there.

I meant, it was its immediate direct cause.

Slovakia opressed by disgusting asiatic short savages

Slovenia opressed by disgusting shitskins and inbred krauts

Now they are both free after millenium of tyranny and ready to take on the world

>super succesful
Is that why every Slavic nation now lives in its own country?

Brace yourselves

This thread will be hit in full force by Slovak autism

So, who are the good and the bad guys?

No there was no autonomy, modern slovakia was called highlands and slavs lived there, we can say it was region, but it was still under hungarian kingdom

thats why we all speak slavic langauge and have slavic countries instead of big austria and big hungary

What made you think I was referring to the habsburgs in particular?

Also, this thread kinda exploded with mad/happy slavs, we need more threads about eastern europe, you guys seem to appreciate them

this

>unshackle Slavic peoples from oppressors
>create independent Slavic states
>unite Slavic states into one Galactic-Ultra-Superpower
Thats how the old panslavic legend goes if I am not mistaken

Not really. Only saxons and szekelys had the same rights as hungarian peasants. Everyone else was a second/third class citizen.

That's thanks to nationalism, not supranationalism.

the thing is, westerners have this stupid concept in mind, that slavic languages are one thing

and that's the reason for this kind of threads

panslavism=nationalism

Croatia was one of the kingdoms in the Austrian Empire, a subdivision of Hungarian Transleithania (see more on this term on Wikipedia or any other source)
Transleithania consisted of:
duchy (help me here?): Tranylvania, kingdoms: Hungary, Croatia-Slavonia. The early Hungarian kings wore Hungarian and Croatian crown. So our lands were elevated, like Bohemia was also a kingdom.

Don't know about Slovakia, was it a duchy, or an archduchy...?
And Croatia received autonomy under Hungarians (Austrian pressure). Own army, own parliament (responsible to Budapest first, but we usually sent drafts and ideas to Vienna, which made Hungarians butthurt a lot), own flag and hymn, later on even own language instead of Latin...In short, we tried to ignore Hungarians as micj as the law permitted and Austrians approved before telling us to fall back in line because Hungarians showed signs of parliamentary chimp out (and better to appear Hungarians than us, in thr grand scheme they were a large part of the Monarchy)

Croatian-Hungarian love was a masochist one. But still, love

Panslavism is Panslavism is a form of supranationalism since it's about uniting a whole linguistic group, not just one nation.

Well, they're more similar than Germanic and Romance languages

Slavs diverged later on

>What made you think I was referring to the habsburgs in particular?
Habshits were big fat fucking mistake, good ol' Luxemburgers and Palatinaters. ;-;

Never forget Krauts betrayal when Ottokar II. was supposed to get the juicy HRE crown, but noooooooooooooo,
Germans couldnt have Bohemian king as an Emperor. So you would rather elect some clownass faggot.

thats why its meme, they never wanted that, they just needed good reason to go independent.

t. ''''''czechoslovak'''''' citizen

Slovenes are the bad guys. Don't even give nuclear weaponry to Slovenes. They hate the world

>Slovenia
meme country tbqh

but i still wouldn't understand everything if you told me something in slovak

not to mention russian or serbian

youtu.be/PHRFJLGtJmU?t=1m31s

how much can you understand from this?

Same, but I'm really bad at understanding other Slavic languages except for Czech.

> but we usually sent drafts and ideas to Vienna, which made Hungarians butthurt a lot
Yeah I read this when I went to croatia, was interested about the horse guy in the main square, why I'm curious in the first place.

Ive asked Slovenes the same questions but they always tell me that they ruled over all of Austria or some other crazy theories which is why I dont really understand the whole idea of the country other than "slavic Austrians", and in that case, why not just be a part of Austria then? I mean, Quebec is not independent, but still has its own history and culture, and always had autonomy of some sort.

like 20%

I like this one, proposed and upheld by certain Croats and Czechs

>unshackle the Slavic people by increasing literacy and hitching a ride on the global birthrate increase
>outbreed Hungarians with Romanian help and spill into Pannonia
>form Slavic initiatives and cooperate closely in the Viennese parliament through strong lobbying, ignoring Austrian Cis/Transleithania divisions
>cooperate in sports, form Slavic working unions
>become the majority population, hold as much offices and initiatives, while still backed by Austrian economics and war-less prospects/progress of a giant country
Sounds like a swell plan

50%

some words

>why not just be a part of Austria then?
Because they are not Austrians, pls dont compare new world province to 1000+ years of political shitshow

>why not just be a part of Austria then?
Rural Austrians, especially in Styria, really dislike Slavs. It wouldn't work out.

gyppos

I don't see thet difference nor do I see the reason to notice any differences

whenever I'm down south to ski I just speak Polish and they try to understand or look for a translator

99.9%

funny because I could swear that I heard more german in slavic countries than in vienna kek

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The horse guy got cucked in the end. Another example of the sharp instrument of Viennese politics
The civil ear broke out, Hungarians did a Hunxit, thinking thr entity of Transleithania will grab tjeir hand and rejoice, jumpong together into rhr distant sunset while showing Austrians the finger, but Croats gave Hingarians the finger and put the fommand at Austrian disposal. The guybon the horse was promised a Croatia with more autonomy, jidt as Austrians promised Czechs this, Slovaks that, and even Romanians and Serbs were promised things...
We fought, the armies were shit, Austrians command was shit and we got wrecked, had to call Russia to help Austrians clean their mess. Hungary was pacified and all our promised annulled, just to keep Hungarians from not going at it again. But 20 years later, Hungarians did sign a deal with Croats which reaffirmed our autonomy and expanded it measl...I mean symbolically)

No I meant more like extermination and repopulation of the empty space left behind which I choose to call
"Místo pro život"

Only select groups of peopel are eligible to be left to survive.
I cast my Slavic vote for Austrians.
So now the remaining nations are:
>Czechs
>Slovaks
>Polaks
>Slovenians
>Croats
>Serbs
>Bulgarians
>Ukrainians
>Belorussians
>Baltic dwarfs
>Russians
>Macedonians
>Sorbs and other meme slavs
and honorary Slavs:
>Austrians

umm excuse me but we Silesians are not Poles exclude us from those ignorant faggots ASAP

>thinking thr entity of Transleithania will grab tjeir hand and rejoice,
We offered to fight on the hungarians side in exchange for being treated like human beings, and they refused. So we fought for the austrians in exchange for being treated like human beings, and the hungarians vetoed that after the austrians won the war.

I liked our AH borders, keep the community together, "Slavs versus Hungarians and Austrians" parliamentary boogaloo

By now,we would have had fully fledged party systems. Imagine, an Austria-Hungary where Austria and Hungary are held hostages by Slavs...

Slovenia is a bigger them then Bosnia senpai

it already happened, most of the government in late A-H was Polish and Czech

Most of modern Austria (Carinthia, Styria, Lower Austria) used to be populated mostly by the ancestors of Slovenes. The Bavarians came later and assimilated the Slovenes throughout the centuries.

Hating Slovenes was more of a Carinthian thing, although it got better in the last few years. It's because Carinthia is the region in Austria with the most Slovene blood so the assimilated Slovenes would try to break any link with their heritage.

you mean
>Czechocroatia?
maybe if we will be one republic or federation you guys will stop your systematic extermination of my fellow friends.

Slavs aren't human so who cares

Welcome to Austrian politics, my Ardelean former compatriot. Not even a fine print "we will trick you" included

The difference is, we would have only fought with Hungarians if they let us go independent, and they simply wouldn't want that

Read about the "Magnate conspiracy". Hungarians ratted us out to Austrians when they foibd out we weren't plotting for hr same thing (they for the exit of Hungary - entire Hungary, and we called in Ottomans to guarantee our sovereignty after Hungarians and Croats get rid of Austrians, so we can get rid of Hungarians as well)

It's hilarious, reading the history of our lands

>panslavic tricolor
No self identity

>emblem is how slovakia was represented in the kingdom of Hungary
When the slaves put the signs of their masters on the national flag

>Three mountains
Only two actual slovakian

>byzantine symbol
Being catholic but using orthodox cross

Your country is a complete joke, better join the czechs.

Mountain serbs tbqh

killer proxy

>my history and heritage is bad, let's forget about it

>history and heritage
>m-muh sława

zabij się
tylko ruscy szpiedzy mają fetysz na punkcie jebanej grupy lingwistycznej

whats the deal with austra and australia?
I mean, what's the deal?

chyba nawet nie wiesz o czym mówię a już mi implikujesz jakis panslawizm
wypierdalaj

Don't be mean they are trying really hard

t. László Kovács

Being lapdog to Habsburgs isnt much better

Pańslawizm nam teraz nie trzeba, ale jest posłużył naszem clowi. To trzeba przyznać...

it may have served croatians, but it was always cancer in poland

Nie dbam o północnych p*laczkach/p*laczkow
Tylko based Galicja i sławni Kraków :DDD

panslawizm to rak

t. krakus

t. ukraiński szpieg/implant który myśli że pańslawizm jest ruska demoniczna maszyna

>pańslawizm jest ruska demoniczna maszyna
bo tak jest, przynajmniej w polsce

At least Austrians had culture, world famous classical musicians, writers, arts, on the other hand what did you have? Oh that's right a few gypsies living in mudhuts on the side of the mountains.

Austria >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shitvakia

Thats true, shame you couldnt be more like austria

I don't see Silesia on the map.

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