I must be missing something, most videos on YouTube no longer earn money. so why do they remain there indefinitely, long after anyone cares?
Apparently it's quite costly for YouTube to host these videos indefinitely, on top of the 400 hours of new content uploaded a minute
Philip Defranco is a great example of a YouTuber who's content has a short lifespan.
however it's undeniable that after a few months, his videos become irrelevant. (That's the nature of news) so couldn't YouTube remove content that people don't give a shit about anymore?
or why isn't there an app that hosts topical / news-based content for as long as they're relevant, then removes them once the cost of storing them > revenue generated from them
Hudson Scott
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Anthony Scott
This is bait
Thomas Wright
TL:DR
most yt vids only make money in the first few months so why don't they delete that old shit to save money?
Gabriel Taylor
no? it's stupid that they have to host all those old videos indefinitely
Cooper Roberts
Because those videos focus on news.
Why don't news sites delete old articles? Because they document history.
Blake Roberts
>implying this needs a TL;DR
Gabriel Gutierrez
Because breaking links is bad. Someone links to your content > the content vanishes or moves somewhere else > they're less likely to link to your content in the future.
And even without taking that into account, if you have a choice of uploading something to a site that'll keep it in perpetuity(or until I choose to delete it myself) vs. a site that'll take it down after an arbitrary amount of time, are you really going to say that you'll choose the latter? Revenue doesn't matter if no-one will use your site anymore.
Parker Gomez
when was the last time you watched a video about something that happened years ago?
>barrack obama being elected >iphone 4s being released >etc
yeah because news articles take up fuck-all storage you're comparing a text file to a video being stored in 360, 480, 720, 1080, 1440, etc?
yet you still use Sup Forums? the archives aren't permanent, and a lot of boards don't even have archives
Christian Smith
people have been watching regular TV news for years, where once aired, viewers have no access to it
plus. we're talking about topical content here the sort of shit people stop caring about years down the track
AND, if a story is really so special, like on here people can take it upon themselves to document it themselves
(eg: screenshotting a good thread / filming a funny tv story)
Dominic Watson
I'm sure people will really get pissed off if videos start being pruned for no reason other than "being too old".
If google actually cared about storage concerns, they would sift through the 40 years of video uploaded DAILY and delete the ones that are clearly popular videos being reuploaded by monetizer bots.
Joshua Bennett
hey, some people have 3 second attention spans
Grayson Evans
I'm not saying ALL videos would be removed past a certain point go to any old news story on youtube, look at 'statistics' and you'll see that people stop giving a shit in less than half a year (or just look at pic related)
yeah, YT fucked itself by having the slogan "broadcast yourself" they've branded the site as a place where any fuckwit can come and store a video forever
Easton Russell
>google deleted a video that's embedded on my website >changed the embedded link to a vimeo link >it just works
Leo Williams
plus, it would be the nature of the platform so it wouldn't be a surprised
if YouTube had started with this model, people would know that irrelevant videos eventually get pruned
so if there was a particularly good video, people can take it upon themselves to save it hell, maybe there would be a free download link once it's nearing the end of its lifespan
Robert Gray
A lot of the boards actually do have permanent archives at least for notable content. Not to mention that if you're actually making content as opposed to just shitposting, you're likely to host it somewhere else as well.
You're comparing two entirely different mediums, dude.
And that's exactly my point. Why would anyone do that if they can just link to vimeo in the first place.
Carson Scott
why do you care though? google isn't going away and neither is youtube google would rather keep youtube running at a loss forever because they're on the forefront of the new media revolution killing TV and traditional media, and they're there to monetize the fuck out of it. If they suddenly closed it down or started pruning videos and chasing people away, another site would quickly take it's place and google would lose their market dominance as an advertising and analytics company.
Benjamin Rodriguez
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Hudson Rogers
ok, well what about this then
there could be an alternate platform YouTube would remain as the platform where videos stay indefinitely, but a second platform could emerge
one that prunes content that has long since stopped being viewed / shared and with the savings that brings, content creators could take a larger percentage of the ad revenue
i speculate hosting the ~400 hours of content uploaded every minute, is one of the reasons why YT isn't profitable
it just surprises me that they're forking over a shit ton of money to host videos nobody has watched in years you people don't get it, the videos that would be deleted are ones that NOBODY HAS CARED ABOUT IN AGES
if the videos were still being viewed, then they wouldn't be deleted??
Grayson Hall
>Philip DeFranco He's still around? I haven't seen or heard about that guy since like 2010. So, I guess Philip is running a news blog these days?
Zachary Ortiz
Because they would be deleting learning data for their super AI
Joseph Garcia
maybe you don't realize this, but storage is incredibly cheap, especially when you play on the economies of scale that google does and have giant data centers on every continent and tons of redundancy
if nobody's watching the videos, they're not being sent over the wire, they're not wasting bandwidth serving them to you and they waste no money.
Mason Thompson
mpsyt
Isaiah Nelson
yeah he's had a huge amount of growth recently, his content is actually top notch, check it out
no, they would already have collected the data they needed
the point is, the video is sitting there dead, not collecting any money or new data from users because nobody is viewing or sharing it
Jacob Sullivan
yeah but we're still talking in the hundreds of millions here,
the amount of videos being uploaded is growing, so they have to exponentially upgrade their server capacity constantly (not to mention that apparently only 10% of the videos on the site can have ads on them)
you seriously trying to tell me it wouldn't save them anything?
Hudson Jones
A quick google search shows that there are already websites that do something like that. Pretty much no-one just uses them.
Bigger share of the revenue isn't very appealing if the total revenue is smaller.
Robert Baker
meant to reply to you
Bentley Sullivan
>40 years of video uploaded DAILY 65.75 years.
Juan Perry
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about how would storage needs suddenly grow exponentially? youtube usage isn't growing exponentially, there's only 2 billion people out of 7.5 who have computer access, only a tiny tiny fraction that actually upload videos.
Robert Evans
all it would take is a few high profile content creators to migrate to start growing a userbase
they could be swayed by being given equity in the new platform anyway, that's not the part i'm interested in discussing
storage needs are growing exponentially because more and more people are uploading... it wasn't long ago that it was only 300 hours of video being uploaded a minute
therefore, they need to expand storage faster and faster to cope with the faster uploads
PLUS, more and more people using higher resolution devices = larger storage capacities demanded
Jaxson Hughes
also, YouTube is becoming increasingly popular in developing nations like India
add another billion easily
Zachary Jenkins
Do stupid kids really spend their time worrying about the business expenses of large faceless multinational corporations?
Brandon Mitchell
Not OP, but where did you hear storage was cheap?
16 exabytes were uploaded every year in 2012... God knows how many are uploaded now
Kevin Barnes
You can buy 8TB drives for only $150 now. I'm sure you can get much cheaper deals in bulk.
David Morris
not worried about YouTube, in fact I'm considering making an app to compete with them
yeah yeah laugh all you want, I know it's implausible
Jack Stewart
Youtube was alwsys popular in india >hello welcome to my guide to... >let the bodies hit the floor in the background
Isaiah Robinson
yes but there are 1000000 terabytes in an exabyte...
Daniel Turner
I said increasingly popular, do you need reading glasses m8?
Ryder Martin
Ok so 1000000 TB in a EB
8 TB for $150 1000000 / 8 = 125000 125000 x 150 = $18750000 (For 1 EB)
They were getting 16 EB a year in 2012
16 x 18750000 = $300,000,000
Nolan Baker
do you disagree with this?
Jack Flores
It would cost more money to build a system to delete useless videos. Storage space cost is negligible the real cost is running servers go process every video thats uploaded.
Justin Thomas
between trillions of *10 hours of spongebob meme* and garbage videos with less than 20 views I can't imagine how big the strain youtube is putting on google infrastructure
Brody Peterson
I didn't pay attention to those events when they were new. Not going to start caring now.
Ethan Hernandez
Go back, Shlomo.
Only fools pay retail.
>Storage space cost is negligible This.
Jack Ward
i for one think his tldr was exceptional
Dylan Howard
you forget youtube is not about the money
Joshua Miller
>when was the last time you watched a video about something that happened years ago?
Today, watched balloon boy and then video of father of his talking about how cops framed him.
Robert Flores
>Youtube was alwsys popular in india It's actually a black hole on my channel. Kazakhstan has more view time.
Ryder Green
I'll be honest now that this idea has been presented to me I am royally annoyed as to why youtube doesn't do it.
>Youtube videos that don't receive 200 views/day one month after being uploaded will get deleted. >Pay 5 dollars to keep your videos forever
That simple and youtube will stop bleeding money. Most people don't give enough of a shit to keep reuploading videos. It also makes the youtube landscape dynamic because certain things like really old tutorials for random shit will have to get recreated which gives new creators a chance to improve on the old stuff. Course this will never happen as it will fuck up too much shit.
Kevin Jones
>India >developing
James Barnes
I fucking love Internet Historian.
Andrew Sanders
If Google actually cared about the hosting cost, they'd just block all Asian countries but Japan to upload videos. They make up like 70% of all the videos on YT yet barely any of them get any views.
Robert Cook
It takes a while for a channel to get going, though. This was Kizuna Ai's first video. She's on track to break a million subs in the next three months.
Alexander Fisher
>Most people don't give enough of a shit to keep reuploading videos. Yup, they'll just use Vimeo or another service instead. Goodbye youtube.
Adrian Rivera
Yeah kid, Vimeo and DailyMotion definitely don't know something you do.