If you want help: >Assemble your parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA) >List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate >Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs? How to assemble a PC, select components & more (kind of outdated) wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC
CPUs: No i5 unless discounted >G4560/G4600 - Budget builds (R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon) >R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can >R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks >i7 7700k - Only for 144hz >R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming
GPUs: Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser >Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games >GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both >RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz >RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games >GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high >GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p >GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
RAM: >Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM >Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
General: ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS! Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor. The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any
This GPU worth getting? I've been waiting for amazon to ship my other MSI 1070 but it doesn't look like its gonna happen, almost 2 months... Been struggling wanting to upgrade my damn gpu.
Hudson Morgan
You won't ever be rich if you earn nickles, smart spending or not
Luke Diaz
you don't get rich by throwing $700 at newegg everytime your GPU shits the bed
Oliver Diaz
Go R5 1600 go Asus on the board and a 144hz monitor just pick one.
Mason Clark
you keep making moot points
rich people can replace their GPU every month
Anthony Green
the r9290x and rx580 seem to be similar when in crossfire is there a single amd card that's on par with the 1080 in price and performance?
Asher Diaz
Laptop gets too hot when I compile anything, it's unpleasant. I want to offload all the heavy development-related stuff to a local server.
I'm too lazy to build a PC from scratch, but maybe you can recommend me a powerful pre-built PC with i7 that I can use as a local server?
Is there anything I should change? I want to have something to run most games but it doesn't need to be maxed out. I would like to keep it under 600 though
Camden Mitchell
I just bought a ryzen 1600 did I fuck up. People are telling ryzen is a meme now.
Luke Gonzalez
Everything is a meme. Intel is a meme, AMD is a meme, building a PC is a meme, buying a pre-built from Best Buy is a meme, etc.
Lucas Long
Read the OP.
Camden Wilson
P L S R E S P O N D
Jose Wood
your life is a meme you idiot manchild
Christian Adams
I wish it was black friday. I need a new monitor.
fyi, jet.com has $40 off electronics that are $250+
Oliver Gomez
Go 2x4GB and try to get a higher RAM frequency
I've /seen/ complaints about asrock and corsair CXMs, but don't know how they hold up
Eli Foster
I want speed, obviously. Is there anything faster?
Camden Bell
No, wait for vega or buy a gtx1080
Chase Robinson
Ryzen isn't shit, but it's not near as good as it's been hyped up. It's been shilled so hard here and everywhere else lately. Coffee Lake is probably what you should have waited for.
Ethan Bell
didnt it benchmark the same as the 1080 but it's a stupid amount of money?
Isaac Hernandez
Do you need MOAR CORES or single-threaded performance?
Zachary Stewart
Single thread is more important.
Michael Ross
R5 1400 or 1600 for 1080p 60Hz gaymen? Why didn't anyone reply to me last thread? Did I do wrong?
Matthew Ramirez
i think a 1400 would be good enough i was planing on getting a 1600 for 1440p 75hz
Eli Gonzalez
Listen, incessant Ryzen fanboys, im seeing that the 1700 scores lower than the 1600X in some games, which is because of clock speed i assume. Can i OC any 1700 just as high and have a better CPU in every regard, or do the two more cores hinder OC possibility?
Luke Evans
All Ryzen 7s can go to 3.8-4.1 depending on your luck.
Jaxon Cooper
Silicon lottery my dude. Odds aren't in your favor for trying to squeeze single core performance out of a MOAR COARS design.
Isaiah Reyes
So an 1700 will always be better in every regard than an 1600X, once OCd?
Cameron Ward
reminder that the rx vega wont cost as much as a 1080ti because sweden is rich and retards are assuming swedish prices will apply internationally
Levi Hernandez
Is the phanteks enthoo pro m a good case? Or is acrlyic a meme?
Aaron Price
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Jaxon Fisher
Yep that's a case that'll hold all your components, alright. Seriously though, as long as the thing isn't universally panned as a shitty case then it really just boils down to your personal taste and budget.
Hudson Russell
>find newegg combo deals with huge discount across 6-7 parts >always the worst cases ever
Juan Murphy
I like the NZXT Elite tempered glass case better. But yea, most cases are good. Just be careful on size.
Benjamin Stewart
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Jonathan Bell
yes. modern mobos use DDR4 standard memory
Landon Howard
>build PC >everything boots fine, but no OS obviously >go into BIOS to see if everything is okay >CPU - 63c PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS NORMAL AND JUST THE BIOS TESTING IT
Sebastian Myers
I originally wanted the nzxt s340 elite but it wouldn't be able to fit my CPU cooler
Luis Gray
The graphics card just lowered in price, I'm about to press buy
fucking 2017 and can't even POST without a bitcoin miner shitting it up
Nolan Brown
I would get the 1600 non-x and just overclock it.
Caleb Lee
but user all Sup Forums ever taught me about spyware removal was deleting system32, yet I haven't even installed windows yet
Jonathan Ramirez
what's a really good heatsink? i got the money to spare.
Isaiah Cooper
Can someone finally answer me if crossfire works in a VM id youre using a ryzen CPU? amd and intel dont use the same type of virtualization.
Leo Mitchell
Anything with poo fans, or something like a Dark Rock3/Dark Rock Pro 3.
Wyatt Morales
someone? anyone? I am not a clever man
Oliver Morales
Hey guys, I am in the need for a new processor and I'm tied with the AMD FX-8350 and the FX-8370. Is the FX 8370 really worth the little amount of extra money, compared to the 8350?
Angel Nguyen
it's real amd cpus use mini black holes to suck away heat
Grayson Diaz
Check if thermal paste is properly applied, it's a very bad sign if your temps are that high.
Eli Jenkins
Cryorig r1b ultimate
Henry Roberts
R Y Z E N 1 6 0 0
Chase Evans
>-63
Nicholas Cook
shit
Jayden Gonzalez
Am I a moron for building an amd 8350 build? (Currently have 6300) I want to run win7 but keep reading ryzen won't let you -- thoughts?
Leo Long
there was plenty that came with the ryzen 5 CPU fan, and it was pretty well spread-out without thinning out too much. not home right now to take a picture
Kevin Smith
Also 1050ti or save for 1060? (160/290) Thanks in advance.
Gabriel Murphy
Just get 10 Enterprise LTSB
Colton Wright
There are workarounds to get windows 7 to work on Ryzen and Kaby Lake. There are 2 big problems with it. 1: Windows 7 does not include USB drivers for Ryzen/Kaby Lake 2: Even if you get it working, Windows no longer updates the OS if you have Ryzen or Kaby Lake. There are solutions to both these problems. Someone else will post it though since I'm a Windows 10 bitch
Liam Carter
Why run win7? Install gentoo
Jackson Evans
I think it's a hyphen, not a minus sign.
Isaac Garcia
Trust me, if I could use a Ryzen I wouldn't be here. My motherboard is uncompatible and I don't wanna buy a new one.
Kayden Powell
run a linux distro then windows 10 in a vm not sure if you can run 7 in a vm
Asher Torres
Time to upgrade grandpa. Hell, I just got on an R5 1600 after being with a Phenom 9750 for years.
Unless you're one of them libreboot guys who intentionally gimp themselves in pursuit of false freedom.
Cooper Cox
Is the Gigabyte G1 1070's improvements over the first version literally just more fans and LEDs?
Cameron Flores
You're going to have to upgrade to a new socket sooner or later my dude. It may not be this generation's CPU, but it will happen.
Luis Jackson
Any difference between 2.5 inch and M2 for SSD if they both use SATA? Other than form factor obviously.
Xavier Ross
Cooling
Henry Richardson
How do you mean? Do SSDs get hot? Which are better?
Luis Gomez
M.2 usually sit under the gpu
Nathaniel Thomas
It's a Universal (that's the brand name) toaster from 1928-1929. Most toasters of the era were like that before the Toastmaster was released in 1926. It looks more like a conventional toaster. The downside is for all it's beauty it doesn't toast both sides nor does it shut off automatically; you can easily turn bread into charcoal if you're not careful. Last I knew there weren't any Universals for sale but when they turn up it's usually about $100-$200 for one.