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>Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences. I've been thinking about making a GNU/Linux distro. I could go Debian, but a Debian-based distro has been done by everyone and their mother; plus I don't really want to make "just another shitty debian derivative". I looked at OpenSUSE's YaST and while it looked the easiest, it seems neglected. I imagine there should be some tools to help with creating a derivative that's done somewhat properly, KISS and all that, rather than me distributing some shitty virtual machine image that everyone else could only log into with the username that I set once.
What I'm looking for is something >stable >good hardware support without modifications >low bloat >not too prohibitive for me to strip bundled software out of and replace >will get out of the way on updates and let me get out of the way. >will get some packages from my server, but otherwise use base distro's default (ie. Salix or whatever I choose as base) Preferably not too much maintainence on my side. Although when it updates, I would still like it to: >request (from my server) and show a message/prompt if necessary before letting the like 2 users who might actually use this upgrade >request list (from my server) of packages to skip upgrades for (from base distro's server) and obey it, but allow overriding from the user end
So I'm considering something Slackware-based, but not directly. I looked at Salix, Zenwalk, Slackel, and Vector. I don't know what's best for me really. I don't have much experience with anything Slackware-based, although I tried Slackware itself for a month.
Asher Foster
Regarding hardware compatibility, I know with many packages you can make performance optimizations during compilation that will work best/only on your system. Using a Slackware derivative that already runs equally well on many different machines means less thing I could fuck up, one less low-level thing to worry . I probably don't know better than one of the more polished derivatives about compatibility so I would prefer to just piggyback off of their efforts.
also general question. how hard is it to compile a package /once/ that work well on multiple systems? with the scale of supported systems being the same scale as like the average distro? I'm not really looking for the speed advantages of compiling from source like gentoo has/is memed about, just something to make a stable binary from that will work on various different computers to the scale of a major distro' s support.
I'm not expecting to make a real competitor distro, but I figure using Slackware (or something even further down) as a base should help me meet a lot of my goals, and meet them properly.
TL;DR: Making a distro. Slackware-based? Salix?
Christian Hernandez
try suse studio
Wyatt Brown
...
Nathaniel Perry
You shouldn't. They are just (should be) "extension cables" connected to standard connectors on the mobo.
Aiden Cooper
>[ 0.442360] pci 0000:01:00.0: can't claim BAR 6 [mem 0xfffe0000-0xffffffff pref]: no compatible bridge window >[ 0.442516] pci 0000:01:00.0: BAR 6: assigned [mem 0x92240000-0x9225ffff pref] >[ 749.921234] vfio-pci 0000:01:00.0: Invalid PCI ROM header signature: expecting 0xaa55, got 0x0000 Is the BIOS setting an invalid value for the ROM pointer? Is there any hope of dumping it? (either from the main system memory or from the card directly)
Jeremiah Thomas
which command do I run to list the wifi device I have on my computer?
Jaxon Martinez
>Salix yes
Dylan Fisher
iw dev? there's also something else for older cards which don't use netlink
Camden Martinez
universal eq fedora? when im using a certain speaker the balance is way too bass heavy.
Charles Cooper
Didn't Alienbob make a script that lets you generate an iso from current along with desired packages?
Gavin Perez
>that will work best/only on your system No such thing
>how hard is it to compile a package /once/ that work well on multiple systems? Just do what distros do to compile their packages.
Charles Reed
No one will use your distribution. The fact that you're bikeshedding and asking such trivial questions in a retarded way means you'll never accomplish anything. You're an idiot.
Luis Howard
Sometimes when I compile stuff to asm.js all my 12GB ram gets eat up.
Killing the process doesn't help, my ram stays at 100% + 5GB swap and the system runs like shit until I reboot it. Even if I check htop as root it says that most consuming process is chromium and it's using only 2% of RAM. free -m says that only ~200MB is used for caching.
How can I check what's actually using all the ram and kill it?
Adrian Butler
memory leak?
Connor Taylor
In kernel?
Evan Bell
Should I upgrade my Fedora 25 to 26?
Jordan Myers
why why not?
Samuel Russell
hello, i'm a beginner at loonix and i just installed Xubuntu 16.04 but wifi isn't working. it worked on 15.04 though. is there an easy fix for this? i'm using ethernet right now but it's annoying since my router is far
Type those commands into the terminal ,post output.
Noah Morgan
Too lazy and I don't think there's anything substantial worth upgrading for. Also I never used an upgrade I always just formatted and reinstalled. I guess my question is will dnf system-upgrade fuck shit up?
Brandon Nguyen
I wanna install linux on my laptop, should I go with arch, fedora or debian? Which DE should I use?
I'm gonna use it for school, music production (been looking at bitwig for a while) and a few games through wine.
Dominic Gomez
Arch if you want shit done.
Austin Walker
How about Gentoo?
Joshua Martinez
Gentoo is fine too.
Ethan Young
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Xavier Wilson
hope you're not trying to ruse me user
Ian King
>ralkin wifi
that should work btw. do dmesg|grep -i firmware and post the results. Note: you might have to run dmesg as root.
I was having some trouble sharing a folder in Nautilus but I managed to get it to work after using gksu nautilus. Now the only problem is that it isn't showing up on Windows 10. Why would this be and how could it be solved?
So I just tried doing minimal Debian install and shit is more complicated than Arch. Missing drivers EVERYWHERE.
Brody Anderson
Are there some cool/normie people that use GNU/Linux? All I see is those quiet, meek, cautious types.. genuine questions
Gavin Morales
Did you think installing Arch would teach you shit about Linux? Arch is a pretty easy distro to install and use.
Luis Garcia
Well yeah, isn't that the consensus of Sup Forums hivemind?
Levi Moore
just google what you need drivers for, hopefully there are some useful suggestions, scroll through some forums, follow the instructions and after 1-2h hours it will work or you will figure out "meh, I don't really need that, lemmie dual boot that" #theLinuxExperience
What flag do I have to emerge emacs with to get rid of this stupid ncurses shit? I emerged it with gtk enabled. The chrome looks like gtk, but the text itself isn't. Why is this? When I do a web search, no one else is talking about this, but emacs looks like this every time I install Gentoo. What the hell?
Logan Long
Look up all possible USE flags for emacs on the Gentoo wiki.
Evan Sullivan
I have. I've emerged it a few times now, I think. I'm beginning to suspect that it might be a configuration issue.
Jeremiah Perez
Got it working. Now to see if rtorrent+rutorrent can be properly configured and working.
Mason Nelson
Might as well post "nvm solved it :^)" if you arent' going to elaborate on what the problem was and how did you solve it.
Thomas Carter
All that had to be done was enter the server ip and shared folder correctly in Windows explorer. The file on Ubuntu was shared by running nautilus with gksu.
Jace Williams
anyone here run gentoo with x32 ABI?
Thomas Cruz
Do Linux "devs" not read the shitter brokers or Wikileaks disclosures? Do they intentionally leave these exploits viable?
Jordan Scott
What's the point of source-based distros? Why should I want to compile every program running on my computer from source instead of downloading binaries?
Christian Parker
What exploits?
Noah White
Optimization
Christian Lopez
That's why I like gentoo. You actually learn something new.
Parker Baker
this might sound silly but i really love mspaint whats the closest thing in Linux to MsPaint (Win7 ver.) ? >GIMP is good but too cumbersome for small edits >Pinta behaves slightly different and is worse in usage
Aiden Nguyen
So I accidentally closed a terminal while I was doing my system update and now I have this. Also, my keyboard doesn't even work on this screen.
Is it dead?
James Adams
Why would you reboot after an update that didn't went through?
Aaron Price
Everything sorta died after I closed that terminal, and I kinda didn't think to open another tty to make sure nothing got fucked.
Honestly at the time I just kinda figured it wouldn't be a big deal since I thought it was still downloading the packages.
Gabriel Price
boot the arch install disc, chroot into it and do an update if that doesn't work, ask again
Gabriel Parker
go recovery mode, as long as you can recover your files you have no reason to panic, and then complete your update in recovery mode, make sure you handle all dependencies and whatnot.
if you are using btrfs you could also revert to a snap, or if you have some other form of backup (which you should)
Lincoln Cook
Alright, I'll give this a go. Burning arch disk now.
Yeah, I'm not too panicked or anything. There isn't anything of value on my X220 anyways, since I keep all my files backed up and then a backup of said backup on another machine. I'll post back with how it goes later.
Is BRTFS worth the trouble while we are on the topic?
Evan Stewart
Please help me choose a Linux distribution I am getting started with C++ but I also want the eye candy
Cooper Cook
>Is BRTFS worth the trouble while we are on the topic? What trouble? Btrfs is great.
Julian Brooks
Eye candy will only distract you from doing any actual work. Get a basic window manager and your productivity will sky rocket.
Joshua Morgan
BTRFS*
It's been a few years and it's gotten more stable, still if you want ext4 or ext3 stable I'd say wait a year or two, you can still use a higher level snapshot using LVMs, but this has less performance
>Ubuntu 16.04 LTS GNOME/Unity >CLion as IDE is good, but costs shekels. >Eclipse is slow garbage >CodeLite doesn't even have fucking linting >CodeBlocks is unmaintained, last release 18 months ago >NetBeans is also unmaintained >Atom is alright, but it's a fucking code editor, good luck with debugging >Vim,Emacs, they're alright, highly flexible, but they too are code editors, for debugging you'll need to use gdb externally and that's a big pain.
Wyatt Adams
I have tried it, it seemed neglected and I didn't see a way to make packages that aren't already on there available. okay Thanks, that's what I'm looking for. I'll look into that. That should take care of the default packages thing. I hope it works well with Salix or other derivatives, although I could just add a package manager and hopefully do some minimum level of configuration without another script, like add my own repositories. Which means I just have to work out how to handle skipping upgrades. >No such thing I know it is though >Just do what distros do to compile their packages. You are really trying to help, huh. Oh well, here's your one (1) (You). >No one will use your distribution. I know. >The fact that you're bikeshedding and asking such trivial questions in a retarded way means you'll never accomplish anything. These are some pretty big issues to plan for, it doesn't take much effort to ask Sup Forums a few times and wait for answers while doing something else. >You're an idiot. I'm sorry I offended you.
Austin Anderson
>Raven
Came. More?
Camden Miller
Fuck off pedo
Cameron Murphy
All better, thanks anons. I wasn't expecting something like that to work for whatever reason, so I'm glad it did.
Nathan Flores
you did the update?
Ian Murphy
What is up with emacs font rendering? It uses some other font for Chinese characters even though the font I'm using definitely has those characters.
Daniel Gray
Optimization from compiling is a load of dog shit. Unless your running a Pentium 3 shit station there is no reason to compile from source
Levi Thomas
Yep. Just chrooted in, ran the update, and everything fixed itself, updated all the hooks. If anything is borked still, don't know what it would be but I'm back into my system. So, thank you
Christopher Sullivan
Not silly. Paint is extremely good for simple tasks. I too would like an answer
Isaiah Torres
So far the best experience I had with linux distros after some mad distrohopping is openSUSE Tumbleweed.
Problem is, it's rather bloated. I don't care much about it on my desktop, I'm fine with that really. Problem is, I have an X220 and I want it there also. That's a 128GB SSD that might seem enough but still, would rather save as much space as possible.
So for someone who's not really that savvy, is there a lighter version, or maybe some notorious packages that wouldn't be needed at all? I know that with Xubuntu for instance they used to (dunno if they still do this) provide a "core" version that only included XFCE with the usual Xubuntu stuff, without most of those extra applications that you might never use.
Cooper Garcia
try getting the hang of gimp, it's not cumbersome once you're used to it i used to use paint for small things all the time back when i used windows, now i use gimp for the same things, and more things paint couldn't do
I'm trying to install a new copy of Linux but every time I reach the installation phase, my mouse cursor is invisible yet recognizes movement on the screen. I swapped mice, tried different distros (Xubuntu, Fedora) yet it's the same issue. Any ideas on where to start or diagnose this?
Cameron Cox
>mouse cursor is invisible >I swapped mice This hurts to read, user
before booting the live cd, add "nomodeset" to your kernel parameters.
Henry Miller
how do i get my wifi to work properly on luuntu 16.04?
I use my phones 4g and make a hotspot to use on other devices. It used to work fine on my laptop with win10. It works fine on my family members' phones. I get half signal strength on my laptop with lubuntu now with phone sitting literally 10 inches from my laptop.
Jaxon Brown
please anonymous show me your deadbeef ;_;
Jeremiah Peterson
Which file manager works best with i3?
Zachary Ortiz
Is there an alternative to f.lux/redshift that actually respects a custom colour profile as a base?
Obviously I don't care about accurate colour reproduction if I'm using these, but my monitor is fucking atrocious without the colour profile so it makes these programs practically unusable.
Joshua Perry
>posting this on a honeypot board
Oliver Reyes
You probably need to update or install your card drivers
Aiden Morgan
>tfw /fglt/ threads last 1-2 days >tfw last thread 404'd Is the end of non-botnet threads on Sup Forums near?
Landon Parker
>GNOME >not MATE
Andrew Ross
>namefagging >non tripfagging
Josiah Peterson
Was just thinking about which file manager is best myself. But if a file manager actually depends at all on which window manager you're using then it's probably shit already. You should be able to use anything on i3, just look for what you need.
Luis Bennett
>install st >tfw its actually slower than urxvt >tfw I got meme'd again >tfw no face
Jackson James
I'm going to write bash script which checks temperatures of my computer and warns me when it's too hot. How can I get parse result of sensors command with grep/awk/sed? I want to get temperature numbers.