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I seriously don't get why they are delaying the cards even more. What's the fucking point? The 3+ months of waiting didn't make HBM2 memory cheaper. Memory got more expensive since then because of the Micron factory incident. And since FE Vega benchmarks came out, the hype and anticipation of people wanting Vega has gone down. Not even the miners want it with the poor showing that it has with mining.
The only thing that would've been a positive was that this delay may have brought some time for drivers to get better but even then, was that really worth the wait?
Grayson Bennett
>Micron Micron is not fabbing HBM2.
Owen Parker
Come on, really? You're going to nickpick on one portion of the sentence and take it out of context?
I was talking about the memory market as a whole. Even if Micron is fabbing HBC which is different. the memory market is very sensitive to pricing disruption, where NAND can be affected by DRAM pricing and vice versa even though they are completely different memory types and are used differently. So it doesn't matter if HBM2 isn't made at Micron, it's just that the pricing increase from the disruption will increase the price for HBM2 as well.
John Mitchell
i bought a 1080ti
Elijah Wilson
I'm waiting for my tax return, then I'll be building a Ryzen system. I'll decide after that if I'll get Vega. Hopefully I won't be disappointed
Brody James
That is estimated price. Not September.
Angel Gomez
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Easton Ortiz
Looks like a hot mess. Does presentation mean nothing anymore?
1080 performance today on the official AMD drivers.
Where will it be in a few months on Mesa?
Carson Powell
Speaking of Fiji, there’s been some question over whether the already shipping Vega FE cards had AMD’s Draw Steam Binning Rasterizer enabled, which is one of the Vega architecture’s new features. The short answer is that no, the DSBR is not enabled in Vega FE’s current drivers. Whereas we have been told to expect it with the RX Vega launch. AMD is being careful not to make too many promises here – the performance and power impact of the DSBR vary wildly with the software used – but it means that the RX Vega will have a bit more going on than the Vega FE at launch.
God damn it Ryan I know you're better than that, what the fuck is up with the HBCC and geometry performance? DSBR is important but it's only 1 out 3 important features and you didn't ask for the other two? Fucking hell
Levi Baker
how do I make the stream upright?
Kevin Watson
Rotate your monitor fgt.
Joshua Morris
it should automatically rotate if your browser is full size and monitor is 16:9
Ayden Walker
maybe my monitor is too small resolution
Benjamin Perez
At least it confirms what we already knew .. disabled HW features in drivers. Just Waiting for actual benchmarks on August 14th now.
Owen Brooks
there we go, didn't see the sidebar close button
Ryder Hughes
According to the footnotes, this is tested with reference V64, meaning expect clocks under 1400MHz sustained.
This is better than I expected, I thought these tests were run with the 1670MHz watercooled one.
If this gets enabled latter on the reference V64 should be hitting over 1500MHz sustained.
Matthew Bennett
son of a bitch, the guy finished it in the middle where's the rest?
Austin Lewis
Geometry performance is fine. The problem is in scheduling or memory latency. You can look at compubench scores and see it performs against a 1080 in openCL tests exactly as it performs against a 1080 in games. DSBR will improve bandwidth efficiency (effective bandwidth goes up) and power efficiency (power goes down) but I doubt it'll make a big difference in actual performance. But I could be wrong, we'll see. I don't believe openCL tests should load the bandwidth so I doubt it's the real problem here but it could make a difference in games.
Michael Anderson
Its the worst launch ive seen since the 290 and 480
Joshua Rodriguez
doom and titanfall bench where
Lincoln Robinson
He got busted.
Nathaniel Edwards
It's more about removing the bandwidth bottleneck(effective memory speed is 300ish GB/s on Vega...) and enabling higher sustained clocks.
Josiah Gray
god he is such a shitty presenter, fucking fire him.
>even AMDumbfucks are just waiting themselves because they're worried about vega too
Nolan Wright
>take your new gpu on a party for a year >the performance is equal to a year old model 1080ti > still not released Raj is money laundering
Sebastian Howard
The performance isn't anywhere near a 1080ti tho You mean 1080?
Cooper Davis
what the fuck is in the pack?
Jack Perez
Discounts for your recommended accessories.
Grayson Cooper
Basically you pay $100 for the GPU for $120 of games, $100 off a 1700X or 1800X with one of these three motherboards, and $200 off an $800 Samsung ultrawide
Juan Bailey
Two games and coupons
John Barnes
Er, $100 extra for the GPU for those extras. And the extras are all instant rebates, so you'd need to buy about $1500 of the cheapest Vega GPU, a 1700x, the msi motherboard, and the samsung display in order to take advantage of the lower prices.
Carson Diaz
dumb fan boys forget the Nvidia GTX 590 it was VERY HOT and very very power hungry.
HBM is nothing compeared to Fermi boyo Picrelated.
Kids these days LOL.
Jeremiah Morris
>Ryzen 7s >X versions they could've tempted more people with price off all Ryzen units
Dominic Roberts
Vega 56 with ca. 1080 performance + FS 2 monitor + Wolfenstein 2. Give me that nice deal, AMD. This is EXACTLY what I want.
Robert Gomez
nice bait
Daniel Nguyen
>2 GPUS in One card
Of course it was hot, you clod.
Christian Brown
why do nvidia fans care to argue in a thread that's obviously for people interested in amd products?
Henry Smith
What? Nothing is above criticism. I actually love to see comparisons and criticism of as many products as possible. I just never like it when its its unconditional love/adoration tier like the stupid console war threads on Sup Forums.
Tyler Phillips
it would be nice if could actually win an argument in the internet nigga
Josiah Butler
I really want one of the silver Vega cards. It'd look great in my case. How limited do you guys think it'll be?
Noah White
>I have no idea what Im talking about
Chase King
I would never buy a gpu with a missing memory chip, disgusting.
Ryan Diaz
They pack a monstruous vrm on the pcb wich can go really hot. It is overkill and thry know it.
Xavier Mitchell
The combo packs are actually pretty nice. Too bad I already built my PC and bought monitors ~6 months ago.
Asher Rivera
It's hard for anything to look good with those shit brown Noctua fans.
Luke Foster
pretty neat actually
Ayden Barnes
Building up stock or optimizing drivers further.
Wyatt Gomez
Can anyone tell me in simple terms how much more powerful a RX Vega 56 is to a RX 480?
Im considering buying one when they release.
Thanks
Jackson Evans
> 10.5TFLOPs vs 5.8TFLOPs
Elijah Murphy
More
Leo Watson
So I was going to get a 1080. Get the 56 right?
Michael Jackson
shiiiiit time to buy rx vega 56
Carson Gray
>drivers vs no drivers
Carter Mitchell
>10.5 tflops How is it on par with 1070? It's even higher than a 1080.
Ryan Lewis
because half of the architecture doesn't work
Camden Bennett
That's the 56, not the 64 (just for clarity)
Nathan Sanders
Vega also has botnet.
Jordan Myers
Because they let the Chinese develop Vega and it's a piece of shit that can't use all of its compute
Christian Taylor
>SRIOV so wait does rx vega support it?
Aaron Taylor
>EU don't even get the Freesync voucher.
and I've just purchased a Freesync monitor after my old one failed last week. :(
Jayden Collins
Are these packs only for america?
Caleb Thompson
No but the FreeSync monitor is.
Josiah Roberts
The games can be gotton for free from other places anyway. That monitor is a meme and overpriced even for $600.
So you pay an extra $100 to get a $100 rebate for a CPU + Motherboard bundle? This is a shit deal.
Mason Jones
how much does nvidia pay you to make these slide threads?
Levi Moore
Tell me about the RX Vega. Are Nvidia going to lower their price for the 1070 in reaction?
Asher Smith
Not likely unless RX Vega is released with godlike perfect drivers and performance is closer to a 1080 ti than a 1080. Which also is not likely.
Dylan Roberts
Isn't that monitor the one with screen flickering issues under freesync?
Isaiah Harris
Irrelevant since the prices will stay high due to mining.
Owen Davis
but I don't want that monitor. Is it just that monitor?
>New in the version of id Tech 6 developed for Wolfenstein 2 - The New Colossus are FP16 calculations. These are done with half precision, which leads to a higher image rate with some shaders without affecting the graphics quality visibly. For what exactly id software on FP16 instead of FP32 put, AMD did not. Post-processing effects, such as Bloom. The performance should rise in the double-digit percentage range, id Software did not want to comment on this.
Mason Gray
Should I even build a ryzen system now? I never mix and match
Ian Diaz
>Anyone wondering where all the die size of Vega went, wonder no more.
>It has 45MB of SRAM on die. GP100 has 23MB, GV100 has 33MB. >God knows what they're doing with all of that and still somehow being hungrier for bandwidth.
Samuel Hernandez
So where you going to get the Intel GPU and NVidia CPU?
>in b4 integrated trash and muh tegra
Adrian James
I was going to do Zen and vega but might just wait for coffeelake and Volta now
Tyler Nguyen
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that counts as mixing and matching. Unless Intel and NVidia merged while I wasn't looking.
