This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.
>Required Viewing For Newbies:
youtu.be
>Strap Guide: pastebin.com
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Is Bulova good or garbage?
Modern bulova has a few acceptable pieces. Mostly mallcore shit though.
Vintage accutrons are great though.
Thoughts?
Vintage Bulova has some very interesting pieces. They were an American brand, and they made some of the watches our soldiers went to war with.
Now it's part of citizen. They're fine, if unremarkable.
As long as it's the 38mm, it's okay. Has an (elabore if I'm not mistaken) 2892-A2 in it which is nice.
What about Movado? I don't like the looks personally, they seem like overpriced crap.
>they seem like overpriced crap.
Exactly.
Afaik hamilton, and other swatch brands, use something like an modified elabore for most of their watches. Like elabore base 2824 with incabloc instead of etachocs (2892 only uses incabloc I think.) But I don't know all the specifics.
Make your list.
>God
A. Lange, F. P Journe
>Top
Patek, JLC, VC
>Good
Zenith, Glashutte original, Rolex, GSeiko
>Mid
Tudor, Omega
1960s
1970s
modern
1940s
1950s
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God tier: Seiko
Top tier: Orient
Good tier: Citizen
Mid tier: Nomos
Shit tier: Anything Swiss
>God
Maison Celadon
>Top
Beijing Watch Factory
>Good
Vager Hauers
>Mid
Sea-Gull
>Shit
seagull
>God
Dufour, Voutilainen
>Top
ALS, JLC, VC
>Good
Rolex, Grand Seiko, in-house Tudor, non-ugly Zenith, in-house Damasko (ugly but the movements are fucking brilliant)
>Mid
Nomos, Sinn, Mid-range Seiko, Junghans Max Bill line
>Shit
Anything Swiss below Rolex/Tudor, Vostock (but fun if you are into slavshit), Citizen (only because of the terrible styling), Panerai, IWC, etc.
>God
Pic related
>Top
Tri-synchro regulator
>Good
Detent escapement
>Mid
Lever escapement
>Shit
Pin-pallet
anyone like this?
Where is my /lume/ squad?
>poo in loo special
>Not putting co-axial escapement in the shit tier category
>designated shitting watch
>unmentionable tier
To be fair it's only omega that fucked it up, the daniels/roger smith coaxial is great.
> F. P Journe
Who? Wat? Why?
>he doesn't know FP Journe
Get a load of this guy.
>Don't know F. P Journe
I should have specified Omega's implementation, obviously.
So are most of you guys just LARP'ing as haute horlogerie consumers who own or someday will be able to own ultra high end luxury watches? Seems that way.
ya
While I really respect haute horlogerie, my own main interest is mainly in high end production watchmaking, actually.
But I already own several ultra high end luxury watches. Most of /wt/ is trash but the occasional good watch and discussion does happen here.
Okay, that made me hard.
What are some good models to view?
right here!!!
Yes and no, some watches that have really cool and interesting history doesn't cost as much as a ferrari.
That one in particular is the chronometre bleu, which is Journe's least expensive, and iirc his most popular piece.
Yea I feel the same way. After owning a few mid range Seikos this year I plan to save up and get my first swiss piece. Deciding between a Speedmaster and a datejust. Rolex is about as high end as my interests go. Anything else and it would be far to delicate for me to say I would enjoy wearing freely without worry.
Yep.
The CHRONOMÈTRE BLEU model is their entry level model. Their sport line is pretty good too.
I personally would vote DJ over a Speedmaster, but I'm biased. I stronger prefer the vintage Speedmasters with the Lemania 5100 and I still need to get a blue dialed 16200 DJ on an oyster for my collection.
I recommend the DJ too, but grey dial. Buy vintage.
Patrician tier DJ coming through.
Right now I consume only the highest quality shitters, since they fit my budget. I've also pretty much exhausted the shitters I find interesting.
However, assuming my life stays on track, Rolex, F.P. Journe, and ALS are likely all in my future.
What is your take on the 1861 movement in the newer ones? Also if you are that one seikofag I think you are what are your thoughts on the fromjapan proxy service?
Just bought a vintage Seiko 5.
Needs to have its crystal replaced, gonna put on a new strap, and I figure while I'm at it I might as well have it serviced. I'll take some before and after photos when it arrives.
>Just bought a vintage Seiko 5.
why though
WRONG
This is the quintessential old man Rolex. But for that reason I kinda like it.
Grandpa tier compared to a non-two tone linen dial. Fite me irl :^)
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The 1861 is fine, if a bit technically dated. It doesn't hack, has a 21,600bph beat rate and is cam actuated (though at least it doesn't use a horizontal clutch like a 7750).
Can't speak to that proxy service as I've always used Buyee.
Not but I recommend zenmarket
because Seiko stopped making watches with kanji day wheels, and fixing up an old Seiko with the proper day wheel seemed easier than buying a new watch and modifying it with a separately purchased day wheel.
I've used fromjapan before (not for a watch though), had no problems at all with the service. I'm sure you can look up reviews to see what other people think.
>Two tone AND Roman numerals
Hey fat canuck, have you been able to find anything out about my daini made 5740C?
>Last winter I went to the Seiko boutique in NYC and when I looked that the turtle the fucker told me the price was $800.
Pffffffffffffffft
Surely you were mixing the Turtle up with another diver. There's no fucking way that a Seiko store would mark up a watch by almost $600.
Not yet, haven't had time to go ask around yet. When I do, trust me I will bore the absolute shit out of everyone in here passing along what I find out.
jomashop.com
Should i get this watch? Anyone have experiences with this?
Sincerely can't wait.
anyone know a similar shitter version of this?
no, are you fucking persian and drive a bmw?
Can I join?
Was thinking 16233 with either tapestry or linen dial
what kind of watches do pilots use?
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>55mm diameter
Wear it on your gloves, mr.pilot. You do have one right?
>strapping a dinner plate to your wrist
You're still going to have to wash it once you're done eating, user.
Hey all I asked this question a while back, but I just wanted a few more opinions if that's okay. If you already responded to my question, thanks, you don't need to respond again, but I'm about to but my first nice watch I'm sick between an Omega speed master and a Grand Seiko snowflake. What do you think would be a better first watch purchase?
Thanks
You should probably specify what speedmaster model you are thinking of. I would definitely go snowflake since the speedmaster isn't my thing, but some of the references are very cool.
I still say snow frake m8.
snow fraker
Post your dream 5 anons and rate others.
8.25/10
what's wrong with pic related?
0/10
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For reference
Grand Seiko 8 day:
youtu.be
Opus 12:
youtu.be
UN Freak Diavolo:
youtu.be
Tourbillon #1:
youtu.be
15202ST, Royal Oak Extra-thin:
I don't see any good videos of this.
Swatches are fun. No qualms here.
4/5 pretty sexual but besides the impressive movements of the of the harry winston and ulysse nardin not my thing visually wise.
From the top of my head so I don't think it's balanced.
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Asides from the strap I like it. Are there any other watches with a simple dial like this yet high in quality?
The Seiko Chariot "Steve Jobs" watch is pretty similar.
9.18/10
Two of those are absolutely disgusting though. Why are your dreams so shitty?
>two-tone
Braun watches are pretty decent from what I hear. There's also the Casio MQ24, if you want to go for the absolute povo option.
NEVER EVER
If I was spending money I'd rather get this, it looks perfect
A little heavy on the dress side.
Rolex explorer perfect
Rolex faded bezel red sub nice
Zenith el primero very nice highly overlooked
A Lange nice I would pick something like a patrimony over that one but that is just me
Zenith Pilot feels redundant with the explorer already in the mix
>le datejust is old man rolex xD
good, even better
champagne dials are too much for me
>overlapping subdials
The zenith pilot fill the Pilot watch slot, the explorer fill the everyday watch slot so i don't think it redundant.
The patrimony doesn't speak to my in term of design, wish the Saxonia have a moonphase on the second subdial though. Grey on rose gold is cool
I just got my Polijot blue angel back from my dad after him being a fucking asshole and "holding on to it for me", for the past 5 years. his retard friend fucked it up and it wont wind up, and i think he somehow broke the reset for the timer.
how much you think this is going to cost me? its a real one.
They're absolute shit movement wise. They look nice of course, midcentury modern is pleasing to the eyes, but the mechanics are dogshit chinese quartz movements, avoid at all costs.
Does the new Omega Seamaster 300 receive about the same level of human attention as a Grand Seiko?
Grand Seiko production overview for reference: youtube.com
The movement, visible through the caseback.
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